**Official PJ @ Tweeter Center RV Tailgate Pre-Game Party Thread**

Barely Alive

my2hands wrote:

i am not trying to push anyones buttons...just tired of people complaining about the band, while at the same time they probably will go to 9 shows, buy 20 boots, 3 t-shirts, and the DVD...

i just think these guys take good care of their fans, thats all... sticking up for my boys

if people wanna complain go buy a $300 "Stones" ticket and see the same set list from 1985 :cool:

Well, since you didn't acknowledge my reply:

They do take good care, except for some recent quality issues that had time to be resolved. It's a little Bait and Switchy in some regards as to how things were. They still offer a lot, but not at the same quality. That's the gripe.

Ok, that's all I have on that for today.

fanch75

grace6697 wrote:

will there be tofu at the tailgate?

get to work, hippy.

Barely Alive

thatgirl wrote:

im thinking sean sd it since his hormones were ragin this weekend

What did I say? Or rather, which quotable quote are we referring to here? I'll confirm or deny

Solat13

my2hands wrote:

never mind the great posters, all shows available for immediate download with unique artwork, incredible 2 1/2 hour shows, ever changing set lists, free tickets to special concerts, first dibs for tickets to fan club members, cheap tickets including local charitable donations, camera's and recording devices welcome, etc, etc, etc

you want pearl jam to be anti-establishment (aka not selling their product) yet you still support the president... sounds kinda funny to me :rolleyes:

I'm against the charitable donations personally. I give over a grand a year already to charities of my choosing. God help me if I find out PJ gave the money from the Philly shows to the Free Mumia fund.

Also in my opinion the bootleg system has regressed. In 03, you ordered a bootleg, paid 13.99 for it plus shipping and got instanct access to mp3s and a physical cd a week later. Also the artwork was always there before these bootlegs - all you had to do was go on pearljam.com

First dibs on tix only applies to people who work in offices or have computer access as I had to buy tickets for several members this year so I really wouldn't call that an improvement.

I do like the ever changing setlists, but when you live 10 blocks from a venue and have been in a fan club 7 years, you really shouldn't be shut out of getting tickets. (Wachovia Center) Luckily I got front row from a good friend.

grace6697

fanch75 wrote:

get to work, hippy.

i *am* working. we're having a major corporate dinner tonight with a guest performer! IT'S JEWEL.

luckily for me, i am her liason here at our organization. i will be shadowing her throughout the event and introducing her to people.

i thought that some of you might appreciate that serious "what the fuck?!" anecdote.

BubbaBirch

Barely Alive wrote:

I was just thinking about that loosely last night and this morning in some context...

Yes, I am.

However, I believe that I have had some feelings brewing here and there about some things for a little while, but they were nothing to speak of. I think once the album came out it was the last straw taste wise for me.
While the album is of a personal preference type criticism, the merchandising I believe is another issue all together. While Pearl Jam is displayed, through their own design, as anti-establishment, and moreso in the past in light of their recent publicity push for the new album (eg. AOL Sessions for one) I believe that they are establishment. I think the fact that they sell merchandise, to the delight of the fans or not, is establishment. I think that the selling of sub-par quality materials and sizing at the Canadian/NA shows, and now continuing on this tour shows that they do not have approval or don't want it on theit items, and are willing to take the fans money. That is not "Pearl Jam" as I always had the ideal of them in my head in the past. In perspective, and growing up as fans of others themselves, they would not like their merchandise either, and I couldn't see Ed plunking down $28 to buy a 2 shirt that normally fits him having to go 1-2 sizes larger and be paper thin. I see that Eddie's woman was wearing the limited hoodie at Wrigley Field. It's great quality when it's free I'm sure, but not otherwise. I feel that while they are busy. etc. which is the nature of the business, it's no excuse because it's the nature of any business, they simply don't take or make the time to oversee some things that should be better handled with respect to us. I don't want more and I never asked for better, until now. It's not more that I am asking here form a greed standpoint, and better in a up-from-sub-par-quality standpoint. The bootlegs are another example. Let's cut some more corners. They are a huge sales boon for them and were at one time a great product, but are now over simplified and have horrible downloading issues, and are not edited well from what I have seen.

Ed bashes the President and the government at every show I've seen in recent memory, so maybe I'm just feeling this on my end with them and exercising it.

Boy are you gonna be fun to go to 4 more shows with!! LOL, just kidding. I kinda agree with you on one point, the whole bashing of the president at every show. I just ignore it b/c I know its coming. Fortunately for me, I dont take my politcal views based on a band. Also, I do agree the shirts are of poor quality but as you know, it didnt stop me from purchasing 2 of them. As for the bootlegs, I havent had the problems that others are having and to tell ya the truth, listening to the '05 bootlegs that I downloaded I cant tell much of a quality difference between the sound of them and the '03 boots. Granted Id love to have professional packaging but its not something Im going to lose sleep over. I look at it this way, I could be a Stones or whoever fan, pay over $100 for a single ticket to a show, and then $50 for a tshirt and then not even have a boot of a show of theirs.

I think this falls under that old saying, "You cant please everyone!"

Solat13

grace6697 wrote:

i *am* working. we're having a major corporate dinner tonight with a guest performer! IT'S JEWEL.

luckily for me, i am her liason here at our organization. i will be shadowing her throughout the event and introducing her to people.

i thought that some of you might appreciate that serious "what the fuck?!" anecdote.

You should ask her how she feels about Ed mocking her for selling her song to be in a commercial for a lady's razor at the San Diego show in 03.

grace6697

Solat13 wrote:

You should ask her how she feels about Ed mocking her for selling her song to be in a commercial for a lady's razor at the San Diego show in 03.

i just might. but for now, here are my pressing concerns.

i need to get jewel the following:
1) sliced turkey
2) parm cheese
3) ketel one vodka
4) a full length mirror.

god. this is dreadful.

thatgirl

Bubba wrote:

You are correct! That was BA and I do believe he was speaking about that pirate hooker Maya.

yea, i was also called a dirty pirate hooker, amongst other things, by various people this weekend. such glorious times!

Solat13

grace6697 wrote:

i just might. but for now, here are my pressing concerns.


4) a full length mirror.

god. this is dreadful.

Is that so she can see how she looks like when she yodels and adjust her outfit and hair accordingly?

thatgirl

grace6697 wrote:

i just might. but for now, here are my pressing concerns.

i need to get jewel the following:
1) sliced turkey
2) parm cheese
3) ketel one vodka
4) a full length mirror.

god. this is dreadful.

what? are you her bitch?
who eats turkey and parm together? thats blasphemy!

BubbaBirch

chromiam wrote:

yes and a colored disco ball... along with bacon cheeseburgers and cheesedogs

Yes the quote is sean but I'm not sure he was talking about maya... the asteriks are just place holders not necessarily the correct number of letters

Ohhhh yeah, you are correct....this quote was not about Maya.....my bad!

grace6697

Solat13 wrote:

Is that so she can see how she looks like when she yodels and adjust her outfit and hair accordingly?

umm. exactly!

thatgirl wrote:

what? are you her bitch?
who eats turkey and parm together? thats blasphemy!

she is gross. i hate her and her teeth.

Barely Alive

I love the band and the music. I was just speaking my mind.
I enjoy going to the shows. I just don't want this to start turning into a half-assed deal, and the way to do that in part is to voice your opinions. That forum can work wonders, just ask Ed. Vote for Change ring a bell? Same concept, results weren't what they hoped for, but it was a forum.

Barely Alive

I JUST RECEIVED CONFIRMATION:

WE ARE A GO FOR THE TWEETER LOT!

Gates are advertised at 4, but show goer volume being based on weather forces and early open at times. I am being granted an early start time of my necessity between 1-2 based on the fundraiser. Looks like we are all good.

So, now which lot do all of you think will be best?

thatgirl

Bubba wrote:

Fortunately for me, I dont take my politcal views based on a band. Also, I do agree the shirts are of poor quality but as you know, it didnt stop me from purchasing 2 of them.

I think this falls under that old saying, "You cant please everyone!"

i bought the surfboard shirt but i havent tried it on yet so who knows if it fits but the material seemed pretty good. not great but not bad. acceptable i guess. like i said before, i bought a womens shirt at the borgata and i think its great, maybe just the mens shirts have the quality issues? the surfboard being mens, i hope not since i just spent 28 bucks on it. i think its outrageous that they were trying to change 45 bucks for a fucking womens shirt. nothing special about it that would deem the $45 price tag. i refuse to spend it. if i want a badass pearl jam shirt that costs a lot of money i will buy the one for 80 bucks w/the rhino on it (im still debating on that one).

my2hands

Barely Alive wrote:

I JUST RECEIVED CONFIRMATION:

WE ARE A GO FOR THE TWEETER LOT!

Gates are advertised at 4, but show goer volume being based on weather forces and early open at times. I am being granted an early start time of my necessity between 1-2 based on the fundraiser. Looks like we are all good.

So, now which lot do all of you think will be best?

i have always enjoyed the lot straight back that jettisons out into the delaware

thatgirl

Barely Alive wrote:

I JUST RECEIVED CONFIRMATION:

WE ARE A GO FOR THE TWEETER LOT!

Gates are advertised at 4, but show goer volume being based on weather forces and early open at times. I am being granted an early start time of my necessity between 1-2 based on the fundraiser. Looks like we are all good.

So, now which lot do all of you think will be best?

omg, 1 or 2 would be PERFECT! is there a map that shows the lots? otherwise i could careless where we go as long as we can get in early

chromiam

Barely Alive wrote:

I love the band and the music. I was just speaking my mind.
I enjoy going to the shows. I just don't want this to start turning into a half-assed deal, and the way to do that in part is to voice your opinions. That forum can work wonders, just ask Ed. Vote for Change ring a bell? Same concept, results weren't what they hoped for, but it was a forum.

I agree about the whole merchandise thing. Seems like quality has suffered a bit... I mean its bad when I have tshirts from 8 years ago that are in better shape then ones I bought in the last year or so, and that's not just with PJ. As for the boots, I like that we are being offered the shows, it could probably be done better. Hopefully they'll work on it. And tickets, well I wasn't in the 10C till last year so I know nothing about previous tickets sales. Although its so fucking nice not having to deal with ticketbastard to get tickets. For as much hassle as the sales have been, just think of how much of a pain in the balls it is trying to get tickets for any major show through TM.
Only way to be heard is to express your opinions and you just might find out that others feel the same way and can help change the way things are.

Solat13

thatgirl wrote:

i bought the surfboard shirt but i havent tried it on yet so who knows if it fits but the material seemed pretty good. not great but not bad. acceptable i guess. like i said before, i bought a womens shirt at the borgata and i think its great, maybe just the mens shirts have the quality issues? the surfboard being mens, i hope not since i just spent 28 bucks on it. i think its outrageous that they were trying to change 45 bucks for a fucking womens shirt. nothing special about it that would deem the $45 price tag. i refuse to spend it. if i want a badass pearl jam shirt that costs a lot of money i will buy the one for 80 bucks w/the rhino on it (im still debating on that one).

I saw two people in Albany wearing the 80 dollar rhino shirt on Friday.