**Official PJ @ Tweeter Center RV Tailgate Pre-Game Party Thread**

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Barely Alive wrote:
    I was just thinking about that loosely last night and this morning in some context...

    Yes, I am.

    However, I believe that I have had some feelings brewing here and there about some things for a little while, but they were nothing to speak of. I think once the album came out it was the last straw taste wise for me.
    While the album is of a personal preference type criticism, the merchandising I believe is another issue all together. While Pearl Jam is displayed, through their own design, as anti-establishment, and moreso in the past in light of their recent publicity push for the new album (eg. AOL Sessions for one) I believe that they are establishment. I think the fact that they sell merchandise, to the delight of the fans or not, is establishment. I think that the selling of sub-par quality materials and sizing at the Canadian/NA shows, and now continuing on this tour shows that they do not have approval or don't want it on theit items, and are willing to take the fans money. That is not "Pearl Jam" as I always had the ideal of them in my head in the past. In perspective, and growing up as fans of others themselves, they would not like their merchandise either, and I couldn't see Ed plunking down $28 to buy a 2 shirt that normally fits him having to go 1-2 sizes larger and be paper thin. I feel that while they are busy. etc. which is the nature of the business, it's no excuse because it's the nature of any business, they simply don't take or make the time to oversee some things that should be better handled with respect to us. I don't want more and I never asked for better, until now. It's not more that I am asking here form a greed standpoint, and better in a up-from-sub-par-quality standpoint. The bootlegs are another example. Let's cut some more corners. They are a huge sales boon for them and were at one time a great product, but are now over simplified and have horrible downloading issues, and are not edited well from what I have seen.

    Ed bashes the President and the government at every show I've seen in recent memory, so maybe I'm just feeling this on my end with them and exercising it.


    never mind the great posters, all shows available for immediate download with unique artwork, incredible 2 1/2 hour shows, ever changing set lists, free tickets to special concerts, first dibs for tickets to fan club members, cheap tickets including local charitable donations, camera's and recording devices welcome, etc, etc, etc

    you want pearl jam to be anti-establishment (aka not selling their product) yet you still support the president... sounds kinda funny to me :rolleyes:
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Bubba wrote:
    Haha, I know, just fuckin with ya. We were hungry so we had to go on our little excursion for food.

    As for lame things, I saw a lot of lame things this weekend!

    I really, really, REALLY hope to have an authentic cheesesteak this time around........
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Barely Alive wrote:
    I was just thinking about that loosely last night and this morning in some context...

    Yes, I am.

    However, I believe that I have had some feelings brewing here and there about some things for a little while, but they were nothing to speak of. I think once the album came out it was the last straw taste wise for me.
    While the album is of a personal preference type criticism, the merchandising I believe is another issue all together. While Pearl Jam is displayed, through their own design, as anti-establishment, and moreso in the past in light of their recent publicity push for the new album (eg. AOL Sessions for one) I believe that they are establishment. I think the fact that they sell merchandise, to the delight of the fans or not, is establishment. I think that the selling of sub-par quality materials and sizing at the Canadian/NA shows, and now continuing on this tour shows that they do not have approval or don't want it on theit items, and are willing to take the fans money. That is not "Pearl Jam" as I always had the ideal of them in my head in the past. In perspective, and growing up as fans of others themselves, they would not like their merchandise either, and I couldn't see Ed plunking down $28 to buy a 2 shirt that normally fits him having to go 1-2 sizes larger and be paper thin. I see that Eddie's woman was wearing the limited hoodie at Wrigley Field. It's great quality when it's free I'm sure, but not otherwise. I feel that while they are busy. etc. which is the nature of the business, it's no excuse because it's the nature of any business, they simply don't take or make the time to oversee some things that should be better handled with respect to us. I don't want more and I never asked for better, until now. It's not more that I am asking here form a greed standpoint, and better in a up-from-sub-par-quality standpoint. The bootlegs are another example. Let's cut some more corners. They are a huge sales boon for them and were at one time a great product, but are now over simplified and have horrible downloading issues, and are not edited well from what I have seen.

    Ed bashes the President and the government at every show I've seen in recent memory, so maybe I'm just feeling this on my end with them and exercising it.


    can i have your boots? ;)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    fanch75 wrote:
    I really, really, REALLY hope to have an authentic cheesesteak this time around........

    "let me get a wiz wit"

    i love those damn things
  • Barely Alive
    Barely Alive Posts: 1,271
    my2hands wrote:
    never mind the great posters, all shows available for immediate download with unique artwork, incredible 2 1/2 hour shows, ever changing set lists, free tickets to special concerts, first dibs for tickets to fan club members, cheap tickets including local charitable donations, camera's and recording devices welcome, etc, etc, etc

    you want pearl jam to be anti-establishment (aka not selling their product) yet you still support the president... sounds kinda funny to me :rolleyes:

    Where did I say anywhere in there that I support the President? If I do or not is irrelevant to what I said. Ed's a USA fan but has criticisms on how it's being run. I'm a PJ fan with comparative/synonomous feelings. I also never said that I wanted them to be anti-establishment. Please read it again before you put words in my mouth or misquote me.

    Free tickets to special concerts just happened twice ( to my knowledge IP and Letterman) in how many years/shows. I hardly think that counts as a basis for comparison considering that.

    As for the other things you listed, that is all true but you missed my point- The quality is going down instead of staying the same. If they want to be establishment then they should stay on top of it. The business plan is shaky right now.
  • thatgirl
    thatgirl Posts: 3,671
    my2hands wrote:

    you want pearl jam to be anti-establishment (aka not selling their product) yet you still support the president... sounds kinda funny to me :rolleyes:

    i think that statement has nothing to do with the president...i know you are just trying to push my buttons but it wont work!
    "I hear Fanch has a Pimp Cup and loves Kiss. I think that's all that really matters."
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    my2hands wrote:
    "let me get a wiz wit"

    i love those damn things

    what is that?

    i asked earlier but none of the local folk answered. i think they enjoyed laughing at my ignorance.
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  • thatgirl
    thatgirl Posts: 3,671
    fanch75 wrote:
    what is that?

    i asked earlier but none of the local folk answered. i think they enjoyed laughing at my ignorance.
    wiz witout for me :D

    i had mine last week so i should be good till memorial day. mmm but i would love to have a cheesesteak hoagie right now. with ranch dressing. mmmm!
    "I hear Fanch has a Pimp Cup and loves Kiss. I think that's all that really matters."
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    fanch75 wrote:
    what is that?

    i asked earlier but none of the local folk answered. i think they enjoyed laughing at my ignorance.

    cheesesteak with cheese whiz and onions.. whiz wit :D
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    thatgirl wrote:
    wiz witout for me :D

    i had mine last week so i should be good till memorial day. mmm but i would love to have a cheesesteak hoagie right now. with ranch dressing. mmmm!

    FUCK! STILL no one will answer my question! And, you all didn't tell me about the lasers either! What else are you hiding from me?

    I thought ya'll were cool. I'm starting to not trust you. :D
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  • thatgirl
    thatgirl Posts: 3,671
    fanch75 wrote:
    FUCK! STILL no one will answer my question! And, you all didn't tell me about the lasers either! What else are you hiding from me?

    I thought ya'll were cool. I'm starting to not trust you. :D
    did anyone tell you about the bubble machine yet?
    "I hear Fanch has a Pimp Cup and loves Kiss. I think that's all that really matters."
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    chromiam wrote:
    cheesesteak with cheese whiz and onions.. whiz wit :D

    thanks Mike!

    who said the "quote of the week"? Sounds like something I'd say.
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  • thatgirl
    thatgirl Posts: 3,671
    fanch75 wrote:
    thanks Mike!

    who said the "quote of the week"? Sounds like something I'd say.
    im thinking sean sd it since his hormones were ragin this weekend
    "I hear Fanch has a Pimp Cup and loves Kiss. I think that's all that really matters."
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    fanch75 wrote:
    what is that?

    i asked earlier but none of the local folk answered. i think they enjoyed laughing at my ignorance.


    "wiz" is cheese wiz (what makes a philly steak a philly steak) of course you could go provolone, american, etc... the "wit" (or with) is fried onions...you are saying you want your steak "wit" onions or "witout" onions

    wiz wit is the only way to fly baby! some cherry peppers and ketchup and mustard and you are in heaven

    the best trick is standing and eating those damn things...the grease and cheese will drip on your shoes, so you have to lean forward to eat the things :)
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    thatgirl wrote:
    did anyone tell you about the bubble machine yet?

    why ask? you won't tell me anyway.

    edit: in case it's not clear, i'm joking about all of this supposed "anger" :)
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    thatgirl wrote:
    i think that statement has nothing to do with the president...i know you are just trying to push my buttons but it wont work!

    i am not trying to push anyones buttons...just tired of people complaining about the band, while at the same time they probably will go to 9 shows, buy 20 boots, 3 t-shirts, and the DVD...

    i just think these guys take good care of their fans, thats all... sticking up for my boys

    if people wanna complain go buy a $300 "Stones" ticket and see the same set list from 1985 :cool:
  • thatgirl
    thatgirl Posts: 3,671
    fanch75 wrote:
    why ask? you won't tell me anyway.

    edit: in case it's not clear, i'm joking about all of this supposed "anger" :)
    the bubble machine was far out.
    "I hear Fanch has a Pimp Cup and loves Kiss. I think that's all that really matters."
  • grace6697
    grace6697 Posts: 1,191
    will there be tofu at the tailgate? :)
    take your money and your drugs.
  • BubbaBirch
    BubbaBirch Posts: 1,977
    thatgirl wrote:
    im thinking sean sd it since his hormones were ragin this weekend

    You are correct! That was BA and I do believe he was speaking about that pirate hooker Maya. :)
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    grace6697 wrote:
    will there be tofu at the tailgate? :)

    yes and a colored disco ball... along with bacon cheeseburgers and cheesedogs :D

    Yes the quote is sean but I'm not sure he was talking about maya... the asteriks are just place holders not necessarily the correct number of letters ;)
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