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polaris_x

Idris wrote:

Anonymous helps push Quebec protests online

http://www.canada.com/technology/Anonymous+helps+push+Quebec+protests+online/6668139/story.html

pretty crazy what these folks have done in the name of liberties from where they originated from ...

polaris_x

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-p ... 03143.html

Bill C-38 protest has 13,000 websites going dark across Canada this June
By Andy Radia | Canada Politics – Sat, 26 May, 2012

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When it comes to politics, Canadians are generally an apathetic bunch. Often, a controversy will brew and within a week or two we forget about it and move on.

It appears Bill C-38 is one issue we're not willing to let go.

Saturday is the one month anniversary of the introduction of the so-called omnibus budget bill, a 425-page bill that amends 60 different acts, repeals a half dozen others and adds three more. Opposition parties have repeatedly said that the bill is too big and includes changes that ought to be broken off and presented as separate legislation. But the Conservatives are forging ahead with it as-is.

While Canadians haven't hit the streets en masse yet, they are showing their dislike for the bill even one month later. On June 4, 13,000 website owners across Canada, including the NDP, PSAC and even Margaret Atwood, will be darkening their websites in protest of Bill C-38 as part of the 'Black Out Speak Out' campaign.

And political analysts also continue to speak-out against the bill.

This week, the National Post's Matt Gurney, who could never be accused of being a left-wing radical, said the bill was "sneaky" and "undemocratic."

Last week, Dennis Drainville, the bishop of the Anglican Diocese of Quebec wrote a scathing piece about the bill and how the Stephen Harper government is minimizing the role of Parliament.

"In the last 12 months I have seen clearly the rise of tyrannical policies and the application of such mind and state control that the people of Canada , unless they soon react, will find themselves not only slaves to a corporate and political domination they never chose but they will experience the extinguishing of any of the hopes and dreams that they once had for a nation firmly based upon the foundations of compassion, justice and peace," he wrote.

"For God's sake, for all of our sakes, wake-up Canada."

And it's not just the pundits who are talking trash about C-38.

Earlier this week, a YouTube video surfaced, showing Conservative MP David Wilks telling constituents that he has some concerns with the omnibus nature of the bill.

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frig ... even the national post! ...

Idris

polaris_x wrote:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/bill-c-38-protest-13-000-websites-going-212703143.html

Bill C-38 protest has 13,000 websites going dark across Canada this June
By Andy Radia | Canada Politics – Sat, 26 May, 2012

Email
Print

When it comes to politics, Canadians are generally an apathetic bunch. Often, a controversy will brew and within a week or two we forget about it and move on.

It appears Bill C-38 is one issue we're not willing to let go.

Saturday is the one month anniversary of the introduction of the so-called omnibus budget bill, a 425-page bill that amends 60 different acts, repeals a half dozen others and adds three more. Opposition parties have repeatedly said that the bill is too big and includes changes that ought to be broken off and presented as separate legislation. But the Conservatives are forging ahead with it as-is.

While Canadians haven't hit the streets en masse yet, they are showing their dislike for the bill even one month later. On June 4, 13,000 website owners across Canada, including the NDP, PSAC and even Margaret Atwood, will be darkening their websites in protest of Bill C-38 as part of the 'Black Out Speak Out' campaign.

And political analysts also continue to speak-out against the bill.

This week, the National Post's Matt Gurney, who could never be accused of being a left-wing radical, said the bill was "sneaky" and "undemocratic."

Last week, Dennis Drainville, the bishop of the Anglican Diocese of Quebec wrote a scathing piece about the bill and how the Stephen Harper government is minimizing the role of Parliament.

"In the last 12 months I have seen clearly the rise of tyrannical policies and the application of such mind and state control that the people of Canada , unless they soon react, will find themselves not only slaves to a corporate and political domination they never chose but they will experience the extinguishing of any of the hopes and dreams that they once had for a nation firmly based upon the foundations of compassion, justice and peace," he wrote.

"For God's sake, for all of our sakes, wake-up Canada."

And it's not just the pundits who are talking trash about C-38.

Earlier this week, a YouTube video surfaced, showing Conservative MP David Wilks telling constituents that he has some concerns with the omnibus nature of the bill.

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frig ... even the national post! ...

For me, it started when we had the G/20 here in Toronto, The illusion fell and the reality became manifest regarding just what we are as a city/country.

Even when over a thousand of our people got boxed in, abused and locked up. We were apathetic, and when we did take note, we just pointed the blame, saying things like "Oh, it's all because of the 'blac blok' blah blah blah"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZxkAn-g4Xo

G/20 Doc,
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Our city, our country needs a new 'wake up' call,

polaris_x

Idris wrote:

Our city, our country needs a new 'wake up' call,

dude ... we elected rob ford ... we need more than a wake up call ...

Idris

polaris_x wrote:

Idris wrote:

Our city, our country needs a new 'wake up' call,

dude ... we elected rob ford ... we need more than a wake up call ...

hhehe, I know riiight!

btw, you check the show Continuum http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/continuum-tv-show-showcase-review_n_1545978.html

I just saw the first 15 mins last night, it was alright, anyway, it's about the future, 'Big Brother' etc kinda interesting in that way. It takes place in Canada, lot's of blowing shit up, 'Terrorists/Freedom Fighters,

Perhaps we will only wake up when something like 'Continuum' happens, :ugeek:

polaris_x

Idris wrote:

hhehe, I know riiight!

btw, you check the show Continuum http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/continuum-tv-show-showcase-review_n_1545978.html

I just saw the first 15 mins last night, it was alright, anyway, it's about the future, 'Big Brother' etc kinda interesting in that way. It takes place in Canada, lot's of blowing shit up, 'Terrorists/Freedom Fighters,

Perhaps we will only wake up when something like 'Continuum' happens, :ugeek:

my buddy works for shaw and he was throwing out names of this show while we were going for lunch ... can't believe they ended up with that name ... haha

and i don't really watch tv ... outside of the food network ...

Idris

polaris_x wrote:

my buddy works for shaw and he was throwing out names of this show while we were going for lunch ... can't believe they ended up with that name ... haha

and i don't really watch tv ... outside of the food network ...

True.

What not digging the name?
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Seriously, we need some 'change' here. BTW have you noticed more Police CCTV cameras around Toronto? I'm not sure about your side, but in the city Core/Entertainment District some new ones popped up. I think with 'sound recording ability' but not sure if that's true.

I know some people don't mind all this, I do. Nevertheless, it's just unfortunate and a bit weird when one thinks about it. I mean the moment I leave my condo, I'm recorded. Scratch that, I'm recorded once I step into the elevator, walk in the hall, onto the street, into a building.

The future feels very safe

polaris_x

Idris wrote:

True.

What not digging the name?
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Seriously, we need some 'change' here. BTW have you noticed more Police CCTV cameras around Toronto? I'm not sure about your side, but in the city Core/Entertainment District some new ones popped up. I think with 'sound recording ability' but not sure if that's true.

I know some people don't mind all this, I do. Nevertheless, it's just unfortunate and a bit weird when one thinks about it. I mean the moment I leave my condo, I'm recorded. Scratch that, I'm recorded once I step into the elevator, walk in the hall, onto the street, into a building.

The future feels very safe

i am kind of torn with those cameras ... i would feel much better about those if they weren't monitored and that if no incidents are reported within a certain time period - say 12 months, they are deleted ... the flip side is that a lot of stupid shit happens in that area ... fueled by alcohol ... and late at night ... its kinda like having cctv at high risk areas ...

but yeah - we need a shake up and it really comes down to this 20-29 generation ... so many of them just don't give a rats ass about anything nor know anything ... hopefully, they will be inspired by the next election so we can get this bozo out of office ...

Idris

polaris_x wrote:

i am kind of torn with those cameras ... i would feel much better about those if they weren't monitored and that if no incidents are reported within a certain time period - say 12 months, they are deleted ... the flip side is that a lot of stupid shit happens in that area ... fueled by alcohol ... and late at night ... its kinda like having cctv at high risk areas ...

but yeah - we need a shake up and it really comes down to this 20-29 generation ... so many of them just don't give a rats ass about anything nor know anything ... hopefully, they will be inspired by the next election so we can get this bozo out of office ...

I agree with what you say.
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Side Note, some kid (last summer) took out a gun and started firing at a group of clubbers, over some kinda dispute. Anyway, it was around 3 am, happened right across from my building, I was awake (smoking) at the time. I called 911 blah blah blah. after about 4-5 mins 30,40,50 cops drive/bike right by the scene! ha! Useless, I had to call 911 again and tell them they jumped the spot.

I also told the 911 operator that this all happened 50M away from a white van, which I think has "government or police agents" occupying the vehicle. Just as I said that, The Van starts it's engine, headlight on, and starts to leave the area, and the 911 operator is like "UMMM, the white van that's leaving now?"

Boom. Talk about 'Big Brother',

She wondered how I knew who was in the van (whatever). My main complaint was that they did nothing to stop the shooting or do anything, as this kid shot about 5-6 bullets. The scene was a mess. People running, cars flying all over the place and this white van doing nothing. I was waiting for someone to jump out, but they remained 'under cover'

Until I blew the cover, and now the white van is gone. No doubt replaced with something else.

polaris_x

lukin2006

NDP making huge gains as Canada tilts leftward: poll


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/28 ... ward-poll/

not that polls mean a lot with 3 years before next election.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

NDP making huge gains as Canada tilts leftward: poll


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/28 ... ward-poll/

not that polls mean a lot with 3 years before next election.

i think this is directly related to the fact harper is fucking fascist! ... it's not a move to the left as it is a move away from the fucking asshole that is stephen harper ... :twisted:

Drowned Out

Gotta love Elizabeth May


Opposition aims to disrupt passage of omnibus Tory budget bill

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... nt=2446013

An omnibus budget bill that will affect many aspects of Canadian life faces a rocky ride over the next four weeks as opposition members try to thwart Conservative plans to have it passed into law before Parliament rises for the summer.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May and the Liberals have jointly concocted a plan to delay the passage of the 425-page Bill C-38 and are threatening to put it into action if the government does not agree to make substantial changes.

The strategy would pit Ms. May’s stamina against the desire of MPs of all stripes to return to their home ridings for the extended break.

What do the Greens and the Liberals have planned?

Because the Greens do not have official party status in the House of Commons, Ms. May is not given a seat on parliamentary committees. As a tradeoff, she is permitted to propose an unlimited number of amendments to bills that have come back to the House from committees.

All she needs is the support of five other MPs. And the Liberals have agreed to do that in the case of the budget bill.

“The aim is to create such a substantial logjam that the government will have to negotiate removing the environmental and other non-budgetary matters from Bill C-38,” Ms. May said Monday.

Each vote on an amendment takes 15 minutes, there could be hundreds of amendments, so “you do the math,” she said.

Once the votes start, she will not be able to leave the House. But “I don’t care how I do it,” Ms. May said. “They can take me out of the House on a stretcher.”

Where is the bill now and what steps lie ahead?

The budget legislation is before both the Commons finance committee and the Senate at the same time.

The Conservative-dominated Senate has split the bill, as it is now written, between a number of different committees for study. That means it can quickly be passed by the Red Chamber after it has made its way through the House.

The government has refused to allow the bill to be divided in the Commons, but a subcommittee of the finance committee has been created to look at the changes to environmental-assessment legislation.

The government plans to allow between 50 and 60 hours of debate at the committee level – to be spread between the finance committee and the subcommittee. The legislation will then be returned to the House for a final vote, which is when Ms. May would move her amendments.

What do the New Democrats have planned?

NDP MPs spent the past week holding hearings about the bill in different cities across the country. They say they have heard from hundreds of Canadians in person and thousands more online and will now put forth “constructive” amendments at the finance committee and subcommittee that are based on those consultations.

The Conservatives, who hold a majority on all Commons committees, will be able to dismiss any changes proposed by the opposition.

The New Democrats concede that the Conservatives will use their numbers to get the bill passed, but say their intent is to make sure that the voices of Canadians who oppose it have been heard.

What is at stake?

In addition to the sweeping environmental changes, the bill’s 752 clauses include measures that would, among other things:

- Reform Old Age Security by raising the age of eligibility for the program to 67 from 65 gradually over a six-year period starting in 2023.

- Eliminate the office of the inspector-general of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

- Grant U.S. law-enforcement agents, such as those from the FBI, the same powers as members of the RCMP in cases where they are working together on cross-border operations.

- Split Employment Insurance recipients into three categories based on how often they’ve claimed EI in the past. Frequent users would be given just six weeks of EI to look for work in a similar occupation before they would be expected to take a job not necessarily to their liking.

polaris_x

stick it to the those fuckers ms. may ...

lukin2006

What baffles me is that Quebec students and apparently non students have taken to the streets over tuition increases...yet with the policies coming from the current government barely a whimper (unless you count the moaning and groaning at the coffee shops or the editorials). What's it gonna take to get the population riled up to at least have a day of protest? or are us Canadians way to sheeple like.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

What baffles me is that Quebec students and apparently non students have taken to the streets over tuition increases...yet with the policies coming from the current government barely a whimper (unless you count the moaning and groaning at the coffee shops or the editorials). What's it gonna take to get the population riled up to at least have a day of protest? or are us Canadians way to sheeple like.

i think there is a sense of inevitability and that no matter what we do ... those fuckers are gonna do it anyways ... look at that video from that backbencher ... he knows the bill is bad ... dude got his wrist slapped and now he tows the line ... this is not democracy ... it's fascism

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

What baffles me is that Quebec students and apparently non students have taken to the streets over tuition increases...yet with the policies coming from the current government barely a whimper (unless you count the moaning and groaning at the coffee shops or the editorials). What's it gonna take to get the population riled up to at least have a day of protest? or are us Canadians way to sheeple like.

i think there is a sense of inevitability and that no matter what we do ... those fuckers are gonna do it anyways ... look at that video from that backbencher ... he knows the bill is bad ... dude got his wrist slapped and now he tows the line ... this is not democracy ... it's fascism

I don't like party politics and every vote in the house should be a free vote. It's just unfortunate that so many just except the status quo. To me it's not really frustrating as it is scary.

cincybearcat

You Canadians are weird!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/29/world/ame ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Idris

Student activists target Canadian Grand Prix

Concerns continue to circulate over the possible disruption of the Canadian Grand Prix which takes place on June 10. Protesting students have warned the weekend could be targeted as part of their ongoing dispute with the government.

Local media sources have become increasingly worried that there could be a significant impact to an event which attracts more than 100,000 people and earns an estimated £100 million in revenue to Montreal.

While the official line is that the authorities will take additional measures to ensure the race weekend passes peacefully, the students at the city's main university earlier this month passed a resolution which promised to "organise a weekend of disruptions in order to cancel the Formula 1 Grand Prix and its jet-set events which represent sexist, anti-environmental, elitist and economic values that must be abolished".

Despite rhetoric reminiscent of the 1960s, it is a threat which is being taken seriously as it is attracting the usual coterie of anti-establishment campaigners such protests appeal to. The US authorities have warned tourists to Montreal they could face "unforeseen violence," "vandalism" and "arrests" in Montreal caused by the social unrest.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/80158.html

dignin

cincybearcat wrote:

You Canadians are weird!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/29/world/ame ... ?hpt=hp_t3

ummmmm.....weird knows no political borders.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... identified