FOX NEWS Implicated in Woman's Death

keeponrockin

I think FoxNews is as biased as anyways, however...

Anyone who believes the media to that degree is an idiot. Fox shouldn't be held responsible for this.

polaris_x

keeponrockin wrote:

I think FoxNews is as biased as anyways, however...

Anyone who believes the media to that degree is an idiot. Fox shouldn't be held responsible for this.

for the sake of discussion ... i pose this question to you ...

if you as a parent tell your children that people of somewhereland want to kill you utilizing a formula of fear and hate ... what do you think your children will think of people from somewhereland?

Monster Rain

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

fox news made her stupid and she died for it ...

Fox News can't make you stupid. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Watching CNN wasn't going to make this lady any smarter. If the argument for blaming Fox News is that they had commentators on the air mention things like "death panels" and this lady believed it, then that would seem to indicate that she didn't get her news from any other sources that would have explained that there wouldn't be death panels. That doesn't sound like an intelligent decision to me. She also doesn't sound like a sweet little old lady when she's quoted as referring to Muslims as "the enemy." Those sound like the words of a narrow-minded, ignorant person and you can't honestly say that she was a wonderful open-minded, smart, loving woman until one day she turned on Fox News and was brainwashed and turned into a bigot.

you should not have one media network spreading disinformation and have those that are reporting news dedicating equal time to debunking what the "most watched news network" is putting out there. sarah palin ran on death panels. there is a ton of evidence that she said obamacare would implement death panels. she has a lot of influence over her supporters, and she has a duty to not spread such egregious lies to them...

That doesn't mean that Fox News amde this woman stupid and it doesn't mean that they're responsible for her death. I'm sure this woman's family and doctors tried to convince her that there weren't any death panels and she refused to believe them. I don't recall Fox News ever saying anything along the lines of, "There will be death panels. Your family and doctors might tell you otherwise, but don't believe them for a second because it's a trap." Also, at 85 years old there was a fairly slim chance that she would have survived anyway. Anesthesia is very dangerous to someone at that age (it's what killed my grandmother at about the same age but she knew the risk involved and didn't want to decline the surgery and be confined to a wheelchair) and she surely would have needed it if her injuries were severe enough to cause her death.

Monster Rain

polaris_x wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Fox News can't make you stupid. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Watching CNN wasn't going to make this lady any smarter. If the argument for blaming Fox News is that they had commentators on the air mention things like "death panels" and this lady believed it, then that would seem to indicate that she didn't get her news from any other sources that would have explained that there wouldn't be death panels. That doesn't sound like an intelligent decision to me. She also doesn't sound like a sweet little old lady when she's quoted as referring to Muslims as "the enemy." Those sound like the words of a narrow-minded, ignorant person and you can't honestly say that she was a wonderful open-minded, smart, loving woman until one day she turned on Fox News and was brainwashed and turned into a bigot.

if you read my further post ... i mention that obviously this woman did not have the critical thinking skills necessary ... the thing is tho ... she "trusted" fox news ... we should be able to "trust" our media outlets especially when they present information as "news" ... fox is the worst of all the media outlets for spreading lies ...

So she trusted people giving their opinions on Fox News (because the people mentioning death panels weren't the news anchors, they were the commentators) more than her own family? That's not Fox's fault.

pandora

The elderly have much to be afraid of and often have trouble relating
to the world that is not what they once knew. Add dementia and other
health problems to the mix and their decision making skills are greatly reduced.
Family or care givers are needed to guide every move and watch over them closely.

Some will not seek medical help because they do not trust the medical profession.
Fox news or otherwise.

Here is where family members intercede. The elderly are the responsibility
of their family or care givers not a TV station. The notion Fox News is responsible is ridiculous.

If there is any blame it is with the family that did not take control of the situation
get her immediate medical care and perhaps subsequent assisted living care.
When one is elderly and not thinking clearly refusal on their part does not exist,
no one was looking after this woman, to me that is the crime and the saddest
contributing factor to her death.

Blockhead

polaris_x wrote:

if you read my further post ... i mention that obviously this woman did not have the critical thinking skills necessary ... the thing is tho ... she "trusted" fox news ... we should be able to "trust" our media outlets especially when they present information as "news" ... fox is the worst of all the media outlets for spreading lies ...

So you want to government to regulate the media???
LOL Support Free Speech... As long as you say exactly what we tell you you're allowed to say :?

polaris_x

Blockhead wrote:

So you want to government to regulate the media???
LOL Support Free Speech... As long as you say exactly what we tell you you're allowed to say :?

the media is already regulated ... you can't swear ... you can't show boobs ... you can't show a lot of things ... there used to be a thing called the fairness doctrine ... till reagan saw fit to get rid of it ...

media outlets especially under the guise of "news" should be held to the highest journalistic integrity ... i see nothing wrong with that ...

pandora

It makes absolutely no difference what Fox said ... this woman should have been under the care
of her family they are the ones responsible for her demise. There comes a time to step in
they missed it.... sadly not the first time this has happened to an elderly person.

Jason P

A couple of notes:

* Story was picked up off Facebook
* Account was written by her son
* Son states he is a committed Occupy activist
* Son states he hates Fox News
* Editors / bloggers pushing this story exhibit anti-Fox News predisposition

That is all we know that is true. At no point in the Facebook post does the son indicate the cause of death or what injuries were suffered in the fall.

All we know for sure is that we have a grieving son who is extremely biased against Fox News and blames Fox News for the death of his mother.

Considering the story is a warning of how people can run with possibly biased and unconfirmed information from media outlets, the irony of media outlets pushing this same notion is quite outstanding.

peacefrompaul

polaris_x wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

So you want to government to regulate the media???
LOL Support Free Speech... As long as you say exactly what we tell you you're allowed to say :?

the media is already regulated ... you can't swear ... you can't show boobs ... you can't show a lot of things ... there used to be a thing called the fairness doctrine ... till reagan saw fit to get rid of it ...

media outlets especially under the guise of "news" should be held to the highest journalistic integrity ... i see nothing wrong with that ...

Good points

gimmesometruth27

someone put the thought in her head by repeatedly stating that if she seeks medical attention there will be a death panel who would determine if she should be euthanized. whoever did that is at the very least partly to blame for this.

the family has nothing to lose, and if they really believe that fox is responsible i hope they bring the biggest lawsuit they can. even if they lose they will expose fox news for what it is.


to those who are saying fox does not make viewers stupid, why have there been several studies recently showing that fox news viewers constantly rank as the least informed of people who watch news channels? for god's sake, in those studies the daily show viewers are better informed than fox news viewers on most issues.

Jeanwah

Say what you want about this story, but with my background in media marketing, people are very susceptible of believing, word for word, from their favorite choices for news information over hearsay from other people, including family. Heck, I could use family members as an example!

The point here is that what everyone already knows for Fox News to be spreading untruths, there are MANY viewers who not are only addicted to the station, but dangerously believe everything that they say.

:shock:

Blockhead

peacefrompaul wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

So you want to government to regulate the media???
LOL Support Free Speech... As long as you say exactly what we tell you you're allowed to say :?

the media is already regulated ... you can't swear ... you can't show boobs ... you can't show a lot of things ... there used to be a thing called the fairness doctrine ... till reagan saw fit to get rid of it ...

media outlets especially under the guise of "news" should be held to the highest journalistic integrity ... i see nothing wrong with that ...

Good points

Wrong!
Ultimately its OUR responsibility to research/obtain knowledge in whatever form.

polaris_x

Monster Rain wrote:

So she trusted people giving their opinions on Fox News (because the people mentioning death panels weren't the news anchors, they were the commentators) more than her own family? That's not Fox's fault.

c'mon now ... you know (or maybe not) that fox uses all kinds of trickery to push forward an agenda under the guise of "news" ... it's systemic in their broadcasting ... it's standard PR ... use death panels in as many instances as possible and it sticks ...

Jeanwah

Blockhead wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

the media is already regulated ... you can't swear ... you can't show boobs ... you can't show a lot of things ... there used to be a thing called the fairness doctrine ... till reagan saw fit to get rid of it ...

media outlets especially under the guise of "news" should be held to the highest journalistic integrity ... i see nothing wrong with that ...

Good points

Wrong!
Ultimately its OUR responsibility to research/obtain knowledge in whatever form.

Maybe so, but you certainly won't hear that coming from the government, let alone the media (which is fully regulated) and public educators.

Monster Rain

polaris_x wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

So you want to government to regulate the media???
LOL Support Free Speech... As long as you say exactly what we tell you you're allowed to say :?

the media is already regulated ... you can't swear ... you can't show boobs ... you can't show a lot of things ... there used to be a thing called the fairness doctrine ... till reagan saw fit to get rid of it ...

media outlets especially under the guise of "news" should be held to the highest journalistic integrity ... i see nothing wrong with that ...

The people on Fox News who claimed that there would be death panels were commentators not news anchors. If Sarah Palin goes on "The O'Reilly Factor" and says there will be death panels, that is different from their news anchor saying it. It's no different than newspapers having editorials. Those aren't always 100% accurate, either, but I never hear anyone blaming them for deaths (or any other problems, for that matter).

This lady's kid hates Fox News and now he's blaming them for her death. That's all anyone really knows. You don't know if she would've survived at a hospital or died the day of her fall from the effects of anesthesia or died the same day she died at her home, yet people have no problem casting blame based on a Facebook post. The outlets exploiting this woman's death in order to promote their hatred for a cable news channel are shameful and are no better than the people they say they detest.

Godfather.

keeponrockin wrote:

I think FoxNews is as biased as anyways, however...

Anyone who believes the media to that degree is an idiot. Fox shouldn't be held responsible for this.

yes !!!!! xlnt post !

Godfather.

Monster Rain

polaris_x wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

So she trusted people giving their opinions on Fox News (because the people mentioning death panels weren't the news anchors, they were the commentators) more than her own family? That's not Fox's fault.

c'mon now ... you know (or maybe not) that fox uses all kinds of trickery to push forward an agenda under the guise of "news" ... it's systemic in their broadcasting ... it's standard PR ... use death panels in as many instances as possible and it sticks ...

She still didn't trust her own family over what she saw on TV. That's not Fox's fault.

polaris_x

Jason P wrote:

A couple of notes:

* Story was picked up off Facebook
* Account was written by her son
* Son states he is a committed Occupy activist
* Son states he hates Fox News
* Editors / bloggers pushing this story exhibit anti-Fox News predisposition

That is all we know that is true. At no point in the Facebook post does the son indicate the cause of death or what injuries were suffered in the fall.

All we know for sure is that we have a grieving son who is extremely biased against Fox News and blames Fox News for the death of his mother.

Considering the story is a warning of how people can run with possibly biased and unconfirmed information from media outlets, the irony of media outlets pushing this same notion is quite outstanding.

these are all fair points ... except ... this isn't really a media outlet pushing it ...

Jeanwah

I find it quite disturbing all the defensiveness for Fox News here. We all know that it's not real news.