FOX NEWS Implicated in Woman's Death
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/2 ... an-s-Death
FOX Newscorp has a history of defending itself against claims that it distorts the truth and manipulates the news by claiming that it merely 'spins' what is perfectly interpretable political motivations and motivations behind legislation.
In particular, they have in the past claimed that what they do is merely 'reflect and report' on one of multiple ways to look at legal questions - and that they merely reflect a culture that looks for shortcuts and encapsulated ways of looking at complex problems.
Terms such as 'death panels' and 'Muslim brotheerhood' are purely hyperbole - not meant to be taken literally.
Except...
When Hallie Jean Mayes Knauss Culpepper, an elderly woman with health problems, fell in her home, a situation requiring medical intervention, she refused to go to the hospital - citing her fear of medical 'death panels' that might choose to mark her for euthanasia - and her refusal to see any of her health benefits turned over to "Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood". Instead, she refused all pleas for her to seek medical intervention - and died several days after her fall.
Woman Dies Over Fear of Death Panels
I am not sure what to make of this tragedy. Some will cruelly argue that she deserved what happened to her - that one should not make medical decisions based on media information.
Others will likely place the blame squarely on FOX Newcorp - a position I think goes too far in the other direction. While I believe they are complicit, I cannot see them as entirely responsible.
This paragraph says it all:
Don't write this woman off as some ignorant back-country hick. She clearly wasn't. She owned a company at one time. She paid attention to events and politics in the news, or at least, in the news as she understood it. She, like most of her neighbors, voted Republican. But until Fox News came along, Republicans weren't stupid. They had different philosophies about government and its role, but they weren't blatantly invested in advancing a lie-based ideology until Fox News came along.
And in that highlighted phrase lies the truth of the matter - and FOX's culpability in the death of an innocent person who relied on their 'reporting' as fact and their 'spin' as truth.
FOX Newscorp has a history of defending itself against claims that it distorts the truth and manipulates the news by claiming that it merely 'spins' what is perfectly interpretable political motivations and motivations behind legislation.
In particular, they have in the past claimed that what they do is merely 'reflect and report' on one of multiple ways to look at legal questions - and that they merely reflect a culture that looks for shortcuts and encapsulated ways of looking at complex problems.
Terms such as 'death panels' and 'Muslim brotheerhood' are purely hyperbole - not meant to be taken literally.
Except...
When Hallie Jean Mayes Knauss Culpepper, an elderly woman with health problems, fell in her home, a situation requiring medical intervention, she refused to go to the hospital - citing her fear of medical 'death panels' that might choose to mark her for euthanasia - and her refusal to see any of her health benefits turned over to "Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood". Instead, she refused all pleas for her to seek medical intervention - and died several days after her fall.
Woman Dies Over Fear of Death Panels
I am not sure what to make of this tragedy. Some will cruelly argue that she deserved what happened to her - that one should not make medical decisions based on media information.
Others will likely place the blame squarely on FOX Newcorp - a position I think goes too far in the other direction. While I believe they are complicit, I cannot see them as entirely responsible.
This paragraph says it all:
Don't write this woman off as some ignorant back-country hick. She clearly wasn't. She owned a company at one time. She paid attention to events and politics in the news, or at least, in the news as she understood it. She, like most of her neighbors, voted Republican. But until Fox News came along, Republicans weren't stupid. They had different philosophies about government and its role, but they weren't blatantly invested in advancing a lie-based ideology until Fox News came along.
And in that highlighted phrase lies the truth of the matter - and FOX's culpability in the death of an innocent person who relied on their 'reporting' as fact and their 'spin' as truth.
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ohhh man we've come full circle now a news source is being blamed for a death....
this womans death was tragic for sure but now some momo is trying to blame fox for her choices ?
I would have to file this under...gotta laugh !
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"She owned a company at one time."
What company did she own?? and how does that relate to her paranoia? Was this a multinational company or did she knit socks and sell them on the internet.0 -
fox news made her stupid and she died for it ...0
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polaris_x wrote:fox news made her stupid and she died for it ...
I would expect something a little more fact driven from you.
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I switched to t-mobile and saved so much money I thought I was a hip hop mogule
and tried to get my teeth gold pated with inset 1/4 ct diamonds...I'm going to sue t-mobile...
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Godfather. wrote:I would expect something a little more fact driven from you.
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what more facts do you need? ... she cited blatant lies put forth by right wing media outlets like fox news as the reason she didn't want care ...0 -
polaris_x wrote:Godfather. wrote:I would expect something a little more fact driven from you.
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what more facts do you need? ... she cited blatant lies put forth by right wing media outlets like fox news as the reason she didn't want care ...
sooo she had no logical thought of her own ? that tells me she may have had mental disorders...possibly ?
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this is the first case that we have heard about. no doubt that there will be more.
to spread outright disinformation and lies under the guise of "news" is atrocious."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
sarah palin had better have an attorney on retainer."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Godfather. wrote:sooo she had no logical thought of her own ? that tells me she may have had mental disorders...possibly ?
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for sure there are other factors ... but it doesn't change the fact that fox news is the propaganda arm of the right and that they will sensationalize and lie to push their agenda ... there are many people who watch and take fox news at face value - obviously they lack the critical thinking skills required to make better judgements ... and this is one of the consequences ... another is a whack load of ignorance and misinformed ... <see global warming> ... most fox watchers think its a hoax ... but yet none of these people can debate the topic and rely on right wing "news" sources for their position and talking points ...0 -
Does the article actually say she watched Fox News?0
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bgivens33 wrote:Does the article actually say she watched Fox News?
if you follow the links ... you will get to this ... posting on facebook from her daughter ...
I know this personally. FOX News killed my precious mother, Hallie. She watched FOX religiously. And when she fell ten days before she died, she refused to go to the doctor because, "I don't want Obamacare to get all of my information! she declared, recalling the warnings from FOX News "anchors." She was emphatic. She was not going to consort with the muslim enemy. As she made out her will she told her lawyer, "I don't want any of my money going to the Muslim Brotherhood!" And her last protestation dealt with "Obama's death panels." Mother died just days later. I hold FOX News responsible for my mother's death.0 -
Godfather. wrote:polaris_x wrote:Godfather. wrote:I would expect something a little more fact driven from you.
Godfather.
what more facts do you need? ... she cited blatant lies put forth by right wing media outlets like fox news as the reason she didn't want care ...
sooo she had no logical thought of her own ? that tells me she may have had mental disorders...possibly ?
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No Godfather, people are just completely stupid, right? hehehehe0 -
polaris_x wrote:bgivens33 wrote:Does the article actually say she watched Fox News?
if you follow the links ... you will get to this ... posting on facebook from her daughter ...
I know this personally. FOX News killed my precious mother, Hallie. She watched FOX religiously. And when she fell ten days before she died, she refused to go to the doctor because, "I don't want Obamacare to get all of my information! she declared, recalling the warnings from FOX News "anchors." She was emphatic. She was not going to consort with the muslim enemy. As she made out her will she told her lawyer, "I don't want any of my money going to the Muslim Brotherhood!" And her last protestation dealt with "Obama's death panels." Mother died just days later. I hold FOX News responsible for my mother's death.
I'm sure sorry your mom chose to watch Fox News. There are plenty of other things to watch or not watch. I am still sorry for your loss.0 -
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polaris_x wrote:bgivens33 wrote:Does the article actually say she watched Fox News?
if you follow the links ... you will get to this ... posting on facebook from her daughter ...
I know this personally. FOX News killed my precious mother, Hallie. She watched FOX religiously. And when she fell ten days before she died, she refused to go to the doctor because, "I don't want Obamacare to get all of my information! she declared, recalling the warnings from FOX News "anchors." She was emphatic. She was not going to consort with the muslim enemy. As she made out her will she told her lawyer, "I don't want any of my money going to the Muslim Brotherhood!" And her last protestation dealt with "Obama's death panels." Mother died just days later. I hold FOX News responsible for my mother's death.
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polaris_x wrote:fox news made her stupid and she died for it ...
Fox News can't make you stupid. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Watching CNN wasn't going to make this lady any smarter. If the argument for blaming Fox News is that they had commentators on the air mention things like "death panels" and this lady believed it, then that would seem to indicate that she didn't get her news from any other sources that would have explained that there wouldn't be death panels. That doesn't sound like an intelligent decision to me. She also doesn't sound like a sweet little old lady when she's quoted as referring to Muslims as "the enemy." Those sound like the words of a narrow-minded, ignorant person and you can't honestly say that she was a wonderful open-minded, smart, loving woman until one day she turned on Fox News and was brainwashed and turned into a bigot.0 -
you should not have one media network spreading disinformation and have those that are reporting news dedicating equal time to debunking what the "most watched news network" is putting out there. sarah palin ran on death panels. there is a ton of evidence that she said obamacare would implement death panels. she has a lot of influence over her supporters, and she has a duty to not spread such egregious lies to them...Monster Rain wrote:polaris_x wrote:fox news made her stupid and she died for it ...
Fox News can't make you stupid. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Watching CNN wasn't going to make this lady any smarter. If the argument for blaming Fox News is that they had commentators on the air mention things like "death panels" and this lady believed it, then that would seem to indicate that she didn't get her news from any other sources that would have explained that there wouldn't be death panels. That doesn't sound like an intelligent decision to me. She also doesn't sound like a sweet little old lady when she's quoted as referring to Muslims as "the enemy." Those sound like the words of a narrow-minded, ignorant person and you can't honestly say that she was a wonderful open-minded, smart, loving woman until one day she turned on Fox News and was brainwashed and turned into a bigot."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Monster Rain wrote:Fox News can't make you stupid. If you're stupid, you're stupid. Watching CNN wasn't going to make this lady any smarter. If the argument for blaming Fox News is that they had commentators on the air mention things like "death panels" and this lady believed it, then that would seem to indicate that she didn't get her news from any other sources that would have explained that there wouldn't be death panels. That doesn't sound like an intelligent decision to me. She also doesn't sound like a sweet little old lady when she's quoted as referring to Muslims as "the enemy." Those sound like the words of a narrow-minded, ignorant person and you can't honestly say that she was a wonderful open-minded, smart, loving woman until one day she turned on Fox News and was brainwashed and turned into a bigot.
if you read my further post ... i mention that obviously this woman did not have the critical thinking skills necessary ... the thing is tho ... she "trusted" fox news ... we should be able to "trust" our media outlets especially when they present information as "news" ... fox is the worst of all the media outlets for spreading lies ...0 -
the daily KOS ????? and you dislike FOX ??? sorry but I think I'm busting a vain in my forhead from laughing so hard.
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