Trayvon Martin

cincybearcat

The more I think about this the more I get pissed off.

I do still wonder if Zimmerman was stereotyping a "gangsta" looking kid, or if it was simply a race thing. I tend to think it was more the gangsta and wouldn't have mattered if the kid was white, but we will never know.

But regardless, if he would have just stayed in his house we'd all be better off.

JonnyPistachio

cincybearcat wrote:

But regardless, if he would have just stayed in his house we'd all be better off.

My guess is, at least from here out, he will be hiding in his house for a long time to come.

Blockhead

cincybearcat wrote:

The more I think about this the more I get pissed off.

I do still wonder if Zimmerman was stereotyping a "gangsta" looking kid, or if it was simply a race thing. I tend to think it was more the gangsta and wouldn't have mattered if the kid was white, but we will never know.

But regardless, if he would have just stayed in his house we'd all be better off.

So... That's your conclusion, avoid any confrontation or suspicious activity going on in your neighborhood?
So I guess when my kids and neighbors kids are playing outside and a unmarked van pulls up selling candy or ice cream,
I should just stay in my house and peek out the window,
My kids would be better off in that scenario right?
People need to be able to exercise judgement, now whether Zimmermans judgement wasn't the best that night or not, does not give him the right to give up his right to self defense.

offigo

Karma is a bitch. He can be considered innocent by the court but it always gets you in the end. OJ lives a great life now, so does Casey Anthony. His life will never be ok, and personally that makes me very happy.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

oh, i am sorry. i did not know that trayvon martin was on trial for his own murder. :oops:

when does the victim's facebook come into play? it was not admitted into evidence, so how can that even be relevant to the events of that night? did his alleged attempt to get sizzrup have anything to do with him being profiled, followed, confronted, and shot in the heart? i didn't think so. those events happened because he was a strange black kid walking in a gated community. that is the only reason those events happened. it has nothing to do with him posting about guns and stuff. fact is, he had no gun on his person, and the person that did have one used it to take the life of a teenager. these are facts. i am not making them up.

blockhead, was there evidence at his dad's house about sizzrup? was there??

i know what makes good ecstasy. i have never made it, but i know the ingredients. does that make me guilty of anything? am i now legally a target of a vigilante?

and thank you for instructing me how to post, but i think i am doing ok posting the way i post. i don't tell you not to post as a hateful, condescending person. i can handle reading your posts, so you can deal with my posts i think.

this whole thing about sizzrup and making a story out of that IS playing on stereotypes of young african americans. it is diverting attention from the whole point that the stand your ground laws are fucked up. this is 2013, not the old west.

and what you all are doing, assassinating trayvon's character long after death, is very unfair. he lost his life. you can't leave it at that? you want to bash him and his family now still?? haven't they suffered enough?

you can attack me all you want. you are on the wrong side of this, and the feds are gonna try to prove that. you never once referred to this as a tragedy. any time a teenager is shot to death it is a tragedy.

Blockhead wrote:

and to blow your "NO" evidence claim.
1. According to Trayvon Martin's own Facebook posts he had been using "lean" since at least June 2011.
2. June 27th 2011, Martin asks friend via Facebook "unow a connect for codien"
3. He tells his friend that "robitussin nd soda" could make "some fire ass lean". "I had it before" and wants "to make some more"

Next time you want to debate/discuss a case, especially one of this magnitude, you might want to know the actual facts, not just read whatever biased headlines "your news" feeds you. And quite attacking posters claiming their "spreading bullshit stereotypical nonsense."
I wish people like you didn't blindly following your political side on every subject.

Instead of discussing/debating this trial/case from your own formed opinion and forming your own conclusions you just "stuck" to your political side and let them do all the talking for you. And now look at how much you an idiot you look like by saying the things you do, when the evidence is so easily available if you actually did the research.
This is direct not only to you but several posters in this thread.

according to the laws of Florida zimmerman was found not guilty and havn't people been arrested because of the info thay stupidly posted on facebook ?
I don't understand the DOJ attempting all these back door trick to attack zimmerman after he was found not guilty.

Godfather.

cincybearcat

Blockhead wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

The more I think about this the more I get pissed off.

I do still wonder if Zimmerman was stereotyping a "gangsta" looking kid, or if it was simply a race thing. I tend to think it was more the gangsta and wouldn't have mattered if the kid was white, but we will never know.

But regardless, if he would have just stayed in his house we'd all be better off.

So... That's your conclusion, avoid any confrontation or suspicious activity going on in your neighborhood?
So I guess when my kids and neighbors kids are playing outside and a unmarked van pulls up selling candy or ice cream,
I should just stay in my house and peek out the window,
My kids would be better off in that scenario right?
People need to be able to exercise judgement, now whether Zimmermans judgement wasn't the best that night or not, does not give him the right to give up his right to self defense.

When someone is just suspicious and not doing anything wrong and you are not a police officer...then yes, don't start a confrontation.

How about you go get your kids, call the police, and let them handle the suspicious van?

You could also start by not making stupid comparisons.

Godfather.

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

Blockhead

cincybearcat wrote:

When someone is just suspicious and not doing anything wrong and you are not a police officer...then yes, don't start a confrontation.

How about you go get your kids, call the police, and let them handle the suspicious van?

You could also start by not making stupid comparisons.

Stupid comparisons... I think that was you comparing the stand your ground law to self defense a few pages back...

Anyways, I am well within my right to ask someone what they are up to in my neighborhood that I know don't belong their or are acting suspicious. Especially if the crime has been rising in the neighborhood.

I am sure according to you and most other posters, just the action of me walking "towards" the van to get my kids would be construed as "stalking" "confronting" "being aggressive". Am I doing it right???

You might want to do some actual research about some of the things Zimmerman did for his neighbors to ensure their safety after crimes that happened in the neighborhood.

You can't go through life being a pussy... There is nothing wrong asking someone a simple question, its not against the law, its not bad judgement,

Blockhead

Godfather. wrote:

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

The obvious answer is that Its against the law to defend your self from a black 17 year old.
Zimmerman broke that law and got off...

cp3iverson

ajedigecko wrote:

cp3iverson wrote:

In Houston a grandmother was rushing her grandchild to the emergency room and her car was blocked by a Trayvon protest that was refusing to let traffic through. When she pleaded to be let through she was beaten. They also thought it would be clever to block an ambulance that was trying to rush through.

So much for peaceful protests. The cause is lost when you do stupid shit like that. If I was ever put in that unfortunate position i would have no problem hitting the gas.

Crap...i just read this also.

I already believe her grandchild is more valuable than the savage things.

All she did was roll the window down and attempt to reason with them.

yup. it's ridiculous. they would not come between me and the hospital that's for sure. and i hope any parent would floor it through that crowd.

Godfather.

Blockhead wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

The obvious answer is that Its against the law to defend your self from a black 17 year old.
Zimmerman broke that law and got off...

ahhhh I get it, thank you.

Godfather.

Godfather.

Godfather. wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

The obvious answer is that Its against the law to defend your self from a black 17 year old.
Zimmerman broke that law and got off...

ahhhh I get it, thank you.

Godfather.

just a thought, is legal to defend your self from a white 17 year old ? or an Asian 17 year old or maybe a Mexican 17 year old ?


Godfather.

mickeyrat

Godfather. wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

The obvious answer is that Its against the law to defend your self from a black 17 year old.
Zimmerman broke that law and got off...

ahhhh I get it, thank you.

Godfather.

just a thought, is legal to defend your self from a white 17 year old ? or an Asian 17 year old or maybe a Mexican 17 year old ?


Godfather.

however as a 17 year old you bet your life and lose when defending yourself from a bigger, heavier man.

Better Dan

Godfather. wrote:

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

The media found a case that allowed them to construct a racial narrative in order to get people interested and watch their stations. I'm really sick of it. Even now almost a week after the verdict it still seems like that is all the media is talking about.

Its Evolution Baby

Let's not forget unarmed 17 year old. Since he's not a UFC fighter Martin's fists are not considered lethal weapons.

I don't know why it was mentioned he was black??? :nono: That's the least interesting thing about this case. Although if you pinned me to it if Zimmerman was black and Martin white I feel like Zimmerman would be in jail.

But that is not really relevant to this case and more just a feeling I have.

JonnyPistachio

Blockhead wrote:

You can't go through life being a pussy...

Ooooh, now I get it! Some of us are scared of being called a pussy for letting the proper authorities do their jobs. :fp:

even flow - question mark

How can you kill somebody and not have one charge stick?

aerial

polaris_x wrote:

this story is about race ...

it doesn't mean that zimmerman was a racist ... it's a story about race because:

* would there have been an earlier arrest if martin was white
* would there have been as much media attention if martin was white
* would there be the outrage by members of the community/public if martin was white
* would sharpton/obama/jackson have gotten involved if martin was white

ultimately, as i have been saying for a while, issues of race have not been resolved in the american public ... the belief that is has been is only denial ... race plays a significant role in the daily happenings in america (and the rest of the world for that matter) ... amongst a myriad of issues ... this case is a story about what it means to be a young black male in america ...

I wonder ...
* would there have been an earlier arrest if Zimmerman was black
* would there have been as much media attention if Zimmerman was black
* would there be the outrage by members of the community/public if Zimmerman was black
* would sharpton/obama/jackson have gotten involved if Zimmerman was black

Media would never have reported it
Al and Jessie would not have given a damned
Obama and Holder would not have given a damned either

Because all three get off on inciting violence and Hatred by using Black men and women..

Has anyone heard how Americans (all races) get along with each other from the media or Obama?....

in real life Americans get along, we work and live side by side......even marry out of our race...

I am 53 years old and have not seen a race related incident since Middle school....

Its all propaganda...

Godfather.

Better Dan wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

why is this case so special compared to other cases like it ?......no I'm not baiting.


Godfather.

The media found a case that allowed them to construct a racial narrative in order to get people interested and watch their stations. I'm really sick of it. Even now almost a week after the verdict it still seems like that is all the media is talking about.

agreed.

Godfather.

Better Dan

even flow - question mark wrote:

How can you kill somebody and not have one charge stick?

Because he had injuries and witnesses saw him getting beat up by someone who they believed to be Martin. Prosecution couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense or that Zimmerman didn't fear for his safety.

I was watching CNN the other day and they compared people protesting the Zimmerman verdict to MLK and the civil rights movement. The anchor even said these people were keeping the spirit of MLK alive. The media REALLY wants nothing more than to make this only about race.