Kinda like a reflection of America. Vaccine is readily available and yet ‘Muricans are still dying of covid. ‘Muricans in Afghanistan knew these days were coming since POOTWH surrendered to the Taliban and yet they’re still there. ‘Muricans sure don’t like saving themselves or prefer to be victims. Which is it? Freedumb.
Do we have any clue how man American citizens are still in Afghanistan?
Not really sure:
Asked how many Americans are still in Afghanistan, Kirby said, “I don’t know.”
A State Department spokesperson estimates there are between 5,000 and 10,000 American citizens in Afghanistan, but said that the department doesn’t have a full list because Americans don’t have to tell the government when they travel abroad.
2 days ago — American officials had estimated on Tuesday that 10,000 to 15,000 U.S. citizens were in Afghanistan. Maj. Gen. William Taylor of the Pentagon's ...
Do we have any clue how man American citizens are still in Afghanistan?
Not really sure:
Asked how many Americans are still in Afghanistan, Kirby said, “I don’t know.”
A State Department spokesperson estimates there are between 5,000 and 10,000 American citizens in Afghanistan, but said that the department doesn’t have a full list because Americans don’t have to tell the government when they travel abroad.
2 days ago — American officials had estimated on Tuesday that 10,000 to 15,000 U.S. citizens were in Afghanistan. Maj. Gen. William Taylor of the Pentagon's ...
So anywhere between 5-15,000, that's crazy that we don't know. August 31st is going to be here before you know it.
Do we have any clue how man American citizens are still in Afghanistan?
Not really sure:
Asked how many Americans are still in Afghanistan, Kirby said, “I don’t know.”
A State Department spokesperson estimates there are between 5,000 and 10,000 American citizens in Afghanistan, but said that the department doesn’t have a full list because Americans don’t have to tell the government when they travel abroad.
2 days ago — American officials had estimated on Tuesday that 10,000 to 15,000 U.S. citizens were in Afghanistan. Maj. Gen. William Taylor of the Pentagon's ...
So anywhere between 5-15,000, that's crazy that we don't know. August 31st is going to be here before you know it.
That Jake Sullivan guy yesterday said it is because not everyone registered and, of the ones who did; not everyone let them know when they were leaving....or something to this effect.
Taliban insist on airlift deadline amid new report of abuses
By NOMAAN MERCHANT, RAHIM FAIEZ and JOSEPH KRAUSS
10 mins ago
The Taliban warned Tuesday that the U.S. airlift from Afghanistan must end Aug. 31, ramping up pressure on an already chaotic evacuation as new reports of rights abuses fueled concern about the fate of thousands of people still trying to flee the country.
A senior U.S. official said President Joe Biden is also committed to the deadline, though European leaders had pressed for more time. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the Group of Seven nations will not recognize a Taliban government unless the group guarantees people can leave the country if they wish, both before and after August deadline.
The announcements set the stage for a chaotic endgame a day after the CIA director met with a top Taliban top leader in Kabul. The extraordinary meeting reflected the gravity of the crisis and America's need to coordinate with the Taliban as it struggles to end a two-decade war against them.
Recent days have seen a flurry of efforts to speed the chaotic evacuation at Kabul's airport, where scenes of desperation have highlighted both the disarray of the U.S. pullout and fears that the Taliban will resort to the brutal tactics they used when they last ruled Afghanistan.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told a news conference the U.S. must stick to its self-imposed deadline for withdrawing all troops, saying “after that we won't let Afghans be taken out” on evacuation flights.
He also said the Taliban would bar Afghans from accessing roads leading to the airport, while allowing foreigners to pass through in order to prevent large crowds from massing outside the facility. It was not immediately clear if they would stop Afghans who are escorted by foreigners or in the process of being evacuated by Western nations.
For now, the U.S. military controls Afghanistan's airspace and the military side of the Kabul airport, where American and other NATO troops are helping people board evacuation planes. There have been no commercial flights in or out since Aug. 16, the day after the capital fell to the Taliban, capping their rapid takeover of the country.
The Taliban will take over security at the airport after the planned U.S. pullout, Mujahid said. It's unclear when commercial flights would resume, putting pressure on the current evacuation efforts to get as many people out as possible.
About 21,600 people were flown out in the 24-hour period that ended early Tuesday, the White House said — reflecting a significant increase as the airlift accelerates.
Meanwhile, a U.S. official said CIA Director William Burns and Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar met — an extraordinary moment for the U.S. agency, which for two decades targeted the Taliban in paramilitary operations. It was not clear what exactly they discussed.
The CIA partnered with Pakistani forces to arrest Baradar in 2010, and he spent eight years in a Pakistani prison before the Trump administration persuaded Pakistan to release him in 2018 ahead of U.S. peace talks with the Taliban.
The Washington Post first reported Burns’ meeting with Baradar. A U.S. official confirmed the report on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. Mujahid said he was not aware of any such meeting but did not deny that it took place.
Mujahid, meanwhile, pushed back on the idea that Afghans need to flee, arguing that the Taliban have brought peace and security to the country. He said the main problem was the chaos at the airport, and accused the U.S. of luring away engineers, doctors and other professionals on which the country relies.
Earlier, U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet said she had credible reports of “summary executions” of civilians and former security forces who were no longer fighting, the recruitment of child soldiers, and restrictions on the rights of women to move around freely and of girls to go to school.
She did not specify the timing or source of her reports.
It has been difficult to determine how widespread abuses might be and whether they contradict the Taliban’s public statements or reflect disunity in its ranks.
But the reports have helped fuel the crush of people racing to leave the country, fearing that they signal a return to the Taliban's previous rule. From 1996 until the 2001 U.S.-led invasion, the Taliban largely confined women to their homes, banned television and music, chopped off the hands of suspected thieves and held public executions.
“At this critical moment, the people of Afghanistan look to the Human Rights Council to defend and protect their rights,” Bachelet said. “I urge this council to take bold and vigorous action, commensurate with the gravity of this crisis, by establishing a dedicated mechanism to closely monitor the evolving human rights situation in Afghanistan.”
By “mechanism,” Bachelet was referring to the possibility that the council might appoint a commission of inquiry, special rapporteur or fact-finding mission.
Reflecting concerns about abuses, European leaders had hoped the U.S. would consider delaying its withdrawal to allow for more evacuations. The Taliban have said Aug. 31 is a “red line” and that any presence beyond then would “provoke a reaction.”
German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said the majority of local staff who worked for his country in Afghanistan haven’t yet gotten out and called Tuesday’s meeting “very important” for discussing international access to the Kabul airport beyond the end of August. Britain's defense minister separately has called the deadline a “mistake.”
But Britain's Johnson acknowledged defeat on changing Biden’s course after a G-7 meeting.
“We will go on right up until the last moment that we can,” he said. “But you’ve heard what the president of the United States has had to say, you’ve heard what the Taliban have said.”
Biden made his decision to stick with the deadline after consultation with his national security team, an official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a decision not yet publicly announced.
Tragic scenes at the airport have transfixed the world. Afghans poured onto the tarmac last week and some clung to a U.S. military transport plane as it took off, later plunging to their deaths. At least seven people died that day, and another seven died Sunday in a panicked stampede. An Afghan solider was killed Monday in a gunfight.
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Merchant reported from Washington, Faiez from Istanbul and Krauss from Jerusalem. Associated Press writers Jon Gambrell in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Jamey Keaten in Geneva, Jonathan Lemire in New York and Jill Lawless in London contributed to this report.
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not having read most of the reporting I cant say with certainty, but I think the issues for americans wishing to leave has been largely solved.
it would appear the afghans are the ones exeriencing harsh trratment and delay.
something strikes me that not even afghan nationals seemed to figure or guess how rapid the takeover would be, even after the first couple days when everything started to fall like dominoes.
I havent seen (not saying much) a breakdown yet of those evacuated what country of orgin they have been
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Just heard a report as to how efficiently the airport is running now...constant movement of planes.
But arent there reports of issues getting there? Doesn't matter how smooth the flight is if you cant get to it.
Well so far 48,000 have gotten flights in the last week. This keeps up, we'll get over 1000,000 people out in just a couple weeks. I don't think that's too shabby. Also don't think Gern was talking about how smooth the actual flights themselves are. I'd assume he meant the process of getting people out.
Just heard a report as to how efficiently the airport is running now...constant movement of planes.
But arent there reports of issues getting there? Doesn't matter how smooth the flight is if you cant get to it.
Well so far 48,000 have gotten flights in the last week. This keeps up, we'll get over 1000,000 people out in just a couple weeks. I don't think that's too shabby.
not having read most of the reporting I cant say with certainty, but I think the issues for americans wishing to leave has been largely solved.
it would appear the afghans are the ones exeriencing harsh trratment and delay.
something strikes me that not even afghan nationals seemed to figure or guess how rapid the takeover would be, even after the first couple days when everything started to fall like dominoes.
I havent seen (not saying much) a breakdown yet of those evacuated what country of orgin they have been
Link has numbers by nation if you scroll down but it’s dated now.
not having read most of the reporting I cant say with certainty, but I think the issues for americans wishing to leave has been largely solved.
it would appear the afghans are the ones exeriencing harsh trratment and delay.
something strikes me that not even afghan nationals seemed to figure or guess how rapid the takeover would be, even after the first couple days when everything started to fall like dominoes.
I havent seen (not saying much) a breakdown yet of those evacuated what country of orgin they have been
Link has numbers by nation if you scroll down but it’s dated now.
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Just heard a report as to how efficiently the airport is running now...constant movement of planes.
But arent there reports of issues getting there? Doesn't matter how smooth the flight is if you cant get to it.
Well so far 48,000 have gotten flights in the last week. This keeps up, we'll get over 1000,000 people out in just a couple weeks. I don't think that's too shabby. Also don't think Gern was talking about how smooth the actual flights themselves are. I'd assume he meant the process of getting people out.
48,000 since 8/14 isn’t as impressive as more than 10,000 in 12 hours on Monday. That is a lot. I’m glad they’re getting more out faster than I thought. I knew he wasn’t talking about the actual flight, but my point was of course it’s smooth if no one is showing up. Looks like that isn’t the case and the reports ive heard of difficulties getting to the airport are hopefully rare and the exception. i hope this keeps up and they’re all out ahead of the deadline.
Because this is the accumulation of 20 years of war, Thousands of American lives, many more lives around the world. The prospect of even more lives of those left behind. Billions of dollars of equipment and buildings are now in the hands of those we were fighting, people who have treated other brutally. The continued mishandling and lack of honesty of of the situation. Wondering what the heck was going on the last 20 years. There’s a lot to be angry about.
How’d you feel in 2003, 2005, 2008 and 2011? Were you angry then?
I didn’t know that our efforts were going to collapse within days back then.
Kinda a weird question. I think most of the criticism today is in regards to the management of the pullout and with a sprinkle of "if it was that fragile, what the hell did we waste lives, $ and resources on it".
I'm shocked it was a fragile as it was. It seems Biden and team have made an effort to shift and manage the situation better at the moment. But for some it will be too little too late. Easy to see why people like Obama/Trump pushed off this hard decision though...
That’s exactly it. 10 years ago I didn’t know it was this fragile, that the people we were training and arming would last 72 hours, and essentially be arming the people we’ve been fighting. I hoped we’d actually be making a difference. I don’t know why people wouldn’t be angry about this. It represents 20 years of a war that resulted in wasted lives, money and resources and within 72 hours of leaving it’s like we were never there. Why wouldn’t someone be upset over that?
I’m surprised that anyone was/is surprised by the outcome. Silly me.
You expected the army we trained to give up and be over run within 3 days? You expected that thousands of people, including American citizens and those who aided us, would be left and stranded? You expected within just days that people would be hanging onto aircraft as it takes off because they are so desperate to get out? I didn't really expect a lot, but I did expect more than this.
I fully expected it to end in a complete shit show as you described. So, yes.
I did too. I knew whatever we built wouldn't last forever. But didn't expect it as fast. Not with as many left behind. And not arming the people we'd been fighting so well with expensive weapons and equipment.
We armed the same people in the 80s.
True. This conversation started with asking why some are angrier over Kabul than Jan 6. Just because it happened before and just because it isn't a surprise, doesn't mean it shouldn't make me angry. A pointless war of 20 years with thousands of American lives lost, while arming the people we were trying to fight at our expense does make me more upset than events that took place over a few hours and resulted in a single death. While January 6th does make me angry, I just don't see how it compares to 20 years of a pointless war and thousands of lives.
So based on your definition of war or a war type coup effort (that’s what we’ll call it) it’s the length of time, the number of lives lost, property damage , etc. that determines the level of anger one should feel about it. This is where I get lost….is it the people we spent the money on, the way they were treated before, not being able to get them out, what exactly are you mad about? You seem mad about the money spent then mad about us not getting them out. These two things are two different ways of looking at a humanitarian crisis and I don’t think you can worry about money spent before or now while trying to accomplish the evacuation. So the length of time you fight for freedom is what really matters to you, what’s important. Or is it money….or just because it’s Biden?
Because this is the accumulation of 20 years of war, Thousands of American lives, many more lives around the world. The prospect of even more lives of those left behind. Billions of dollars of equipment and buildings are now in the hands of those we were fighting, people who have treated other brutally. The continued mishandling and lack of honesty of of the situation. Wondering what the heck was going on the last 20 years. There’s a lot to be angry about.
How’d you feel in 2003, 2005, 2008 and 2011? Were you angry then?
I didn’t know that our efforts were going to collapse within days back then.
Kinda a weird question. I think most of the criticism today is in regards to the management of the pullout and with a sprinkle of "if it was that fragile, what the hell did we waste lives, $ and resources on it".
I'm shocked it was a fragile as it was. It seems Biden and team have made an effort to shift and manage the situation better at the moment. But for some it will be too little too late. Easy to see why people like Obama/Trump pushed off this hard decision though...
That’s exactly it. 10 years ago I didn’t know it was this fragile, that the people we were training and arming would last 72 hours, and essentially be arming the people we’ve been fighting. I hoped we’d actually be making a difference. I don’t know why people wouldn’t be angry about this. It represents 20 years of a war that resulted in wasted lives, money and resources and within 72 hours of leaving it’s like we were never there. Why wouldn’t someone be upset over that?
I’m surprised that anyone was/is surprised by the outcome. Silly me.
You expected the army we trained to give up and be over run within 3 days? You expected that thousands of people, including American citizens and those who aided us, would be left and stranded? You expected within just days that people would be hanging onto aircraft as it takes off because they are so desperate to get out? I didn't really expect a lot, but I did expect more than this.
I fully expected it to end in a complete shit show as you described. So, yes.
I did too. I knew whatever we built wouldn't last forever. But didn't expect it as fast. Not with as many left behind. And not arming the people we'd been fighting so well with expensive weapons and equipment.
We armed the same people in the 80s.
True. This conversation started with asking why some are angrier over Kabul than Jan 6. Just because it happened before and just because it isn't a surprise, doesn't mean it shouldn't make me angry. A pointless war of 20 years with thousands of American lives lost, while arming the people we were trying to fight at our expense does make me more upset than events that took place over a few hours and resulted in a single death. While January 6th does make me angry, I just don't see how it compares to 20 years of a pointless war and thousands of lives.
So based on your definition of war or a war type coup effort (that’s what we’ll call it) it’s the length of time, the number of lives lost, property damage , etc. that determines the level of anger one should feel about it. This is where I get lost….is it the people we spent the money on, the way they were treated before, not being able to get them out, what exactly are you mad about? You seem mad about the money spent then mad about us not getting them out. These two things are two different ways of looking at a humanitarian crisis and I don’t think you can worry about money spent before or now while trying to accomplish the evacuation. So the length of time you fight for freedom is what really matters to you, what’s important. Or is it money….or just because it’s Biden?
I never said who should and shouldn’t be angry. Just that I don’t see it as unreasonable someone would be more upset over a 20-year war than Jan 6 based partially on what you said. Except you never mentioned what is the biggest factor, the number of deaths. And I would agree. But if you don’t, that’s fine. I’m not trying to dictate what anyone should be upset over. We all have our own metrics. If you’re more upset with Jan 6, that doesn’t bother me. I personally think deaths is a good one. More than 2000 Americans died fighting and by the looks of it, we have nothing to show for it. That’s the main reason, all the money and resources wasted is just salt in the wounds, but minor in comparison to 2500 killed and who knows how many times as many severely disabled for life. I haven’t blamed Biden. We should have left years ago. I don’t believe I’ve even mentioned his name on this thread. It’s too early for me to tell yet, if we get everyone out who needs to, then I won’t blame him. If thousands die try to get to a plane, then yeah I’ll say he should have had a better plan to get them out. But it’s looking hopeful at the moment.
Just heard a report as to how efficiently the airport is running now...constant movement of planes.
But arent there reports of issues getting there? Doesn't matter how smooth the flight is if you cant get to it.
Well so far 48,000 have gotten flights in the last week. This keeps up, we'll get over 1000,000 people out in just a couple weeks. I don't think that's too shabby. Also don't think Gern was talking about how smooth the actual flights themselves are. I'd assume he meant the process of getting people out.
48,000 since 8/14 isn’t as impressive as more than 10,000 in 12 hours on Monday. That is a lot. I’m glad they’re getting more out faster than I thought. I knew he wasn’t talking about the actual flight, but my point was of course it’s smooth if no one is showing up. Looks like that isn’t the case and the reports ive heard of difficulties getting to the airport are hopefully rare and the exception. i hope this keeps up and they’re all out ahead of the deadline.
not impressive huh? where were they to go? what was in place to receive them initially? more to it than just a flight out.
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I’m so tired of the nonsense. Enough to discuss and even criticize without being a fucking lying piece of shit. Was so nice not hearing from him at all
Guess which part POOTWH wrote by his very own self? Good fucking lord we were supposed to be out on May 1st based on the art of the deal maker. And his sycophants will nod their heads in agreement and blame Hillary or Joe. Talk about a cult.
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Asked how many Americans are still in Afghanistan, Kirby said, “I don’t know.”
A State Department spokesperson estimates there are between 5,000 and 10,000 American citizens in Afghanistan, but said that the department doesn’t have a full list because Americans don’t have to tell the government when they travel abroad.
Pentagon Unsure How Many Americans Still In Afghanistan (forbes.com)
How many Americans are waiting to leave Afghanistan?
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The Taliban warned Tuesday that the U.S. airlift from Afghanistan must end Aug. 31, ramping up pressure on an already chaotic evacuation as new reports of rights abuses fueled concern about the fate of thousands of people still trying to flee the country.
A senior U.S. official said President Joe Biden is also committed to the deadline, though European leaders had pressed for more time. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the Group of Seven nations will not recognize a Taliban government unless the group guarantees people can leave the country if they wish, both before and after August deadline.
The announcements set the stage for a chaotic endgame a day after the CIA director met with a top Taliban top leader in Kabul. The extraordinary meeting reflected the gravity of the crisis and America's need to coordinate with the Taliban as it struggles to end a two-decade war against them.
Recent days have seen a flurry of efforts to speed the chaotic evacuation at Kabul's airport, where scenes of desperation have highlighted both the disarray of the U.S. pullout and fears that the Taliban will resort to the brutal tactics they used when they last ruled Afghanistan.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told a news conference the U.S. must stick to its self-imposed deadline for withdrawing all troops, saying “after that we won't let Afghans be taken out” on evacuation flights.
He also said the Taliban would bar Afghans from accessing roads leading to the airport, while allowing foreigners to pass through in order to prevent large crowds from massing outside the facility. It was not immediately clear if they would stop Afghans who are escorted by foreigners or in the process of being evacuated by Western nations.
For now, the U.S. military controls Afghanistan's airspace and the military side of the Kabul airport, where American and other NATO troops are helping people board evacuation planes. There have been no commercial flights in or out since Aug. 16, the day after the capital fell to the Taliban, capping their rapid takeover of the country.
The Taliban will take over security at the airport after the planned U.S. pullout, Mujahid said. It's unclear when commercial flights would resume, putting pressure on the current evacuation efforts to get as many people out as possible.
About 21,600 people were flown out in the 24-hour period that ended early Tuesday, the White House said — reflecting a significant increase as the airlift accelerates.
Meanwhile, a U.S. official said CIA Director William Burns and Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar met — an extraordinary moment for the U.S. agency, which for two decades targeted the Taliban in paramilitary operations. It was not clear what exactly they discussed.
The CIA partnered with Pakistani forces to arrest Baradar in 2010, and he spent eight years in a Pakistani prison before the Trump administration persuaded Pakistan to release him in 2018 ahead of U.S. peace talks with the Taliban.
The Washington Post first reported Burns’ meeting with Baradar. A U.S. official confirmed the report on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. Mujahid said he was not aware of any such meeting but did not deny that it took place.
Mujahid, meanwhile, pushed back on the idea that Afghans need to flee, arguing that the Taliban have brought peace and security to the country. He said the main problem was the chaos at the airport, and accused the U.S. of luring away engineers, doctors and other professionals on which the country relies.
Earlier, U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet said she had credible reports of “summary executions” of civilians and former security forces who were no longer fighting, the recruitment of child soldiers, and restrictions on the rights of women to move around freely and of girls to go to school.
She did not specify the timing or source of her reports.
It has been difficult to determine how widespread abuses might be and whether they contradict the Taliban’s public statements or reflect disunity in its ranks.
But the reports have helped fuel the crush of people racing to leave the country, fearing that they signal a return to the Taliban's previous rule. From 1996 until the 2001 U.S.-led invasion, the Taliban largely confined women to their homes, banned television and music, chopped off the hands of suspected thieves and held public executions.
“At this critical moment, the people of Afghanistan look to the Human Rights Council to defend and protect their rights,” Bachelet said. “I urge this council to take bold and vigorous action, commensurate with the gravity of this crisis, by establishing a dedicated mechanism to closely monitor the evolving human rights situation in Afghanistan.”
By “mechanism,” Bachelet was referring to the possibility that the council might appoint a commission of inquiry, special rapporteur or fact-finding mission.
Reflecting concerns about abuses, European leaders had hoped the U.S. would consider delaying its withdrawal to allow for more evacuations. The Taliban have said Aug. 31 is a “red line” and that any presence beyond then would “provoke a reaction.”
German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said the majority of local staff who worked for his country in Afghanistan haven’t yet gotten out and called Tuesday’s meeting “very important” for discussing international access to the Kabul airport beyond the end of August. Britain's defense minister separately has called the deadline a “mistake.”
But Britain's Johnson acknowledged defeat on changing Biden’s course after a G-7 meeting.
“We will go on right up until the last moment that we can,” he said. “But you’ve heard what the president of the United States has had to say, you’ve heard what the Taliban have said.”
Biden made his decision to stick with the deadline after consultation with his national security team, an official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a decision not yet publicly announced.
Tragic scenes at the airport have transfixed the world. Afghans poured onto the tarmac last week and some clung to a U.S. military transport plane as it took off, later plunging to their deaths. At least seven people died that day, and another seven died Sunday in a panicked stampede. An Afghan solider was killed Monday in a gunfight.
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Merchant reported from Washington, Faiez from Istanbul and Krauss from Jerusalem. Associated Press writers Jon Gambrell in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Jamey Keaten in Geneva, Jonathan Lemire in New York and Jill Lawless in London contributed to this report.
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kinda crazy how dated this is 48 hrs later......
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yes. in 48 hrs
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At least, these guys don’t call the truth “fake news.” (They just make up more bullshit!
I knew he wasn’t talking about the actual flight, but my point was of course it’s smooth if no one is showing up. Looks like that isn’t the case and the reports ive heard of difficulties getting to the airport are hopefully rare and the exception.
i hope this keeps up and they’re all out ahead of the deadline.
I haven’t blamed Biden. We should have left years ago. I don’t believe I’ve even mentioned his name on this thread. It’s too early for me to tell yet, if we get everyone out who needs to, then I won’t blame him. If thousands die try to get to a plane, then yeah I’ll say he should have had a better plan to get them out. But it’s looking hopeful at the moment.
not impressive huh? where were they to go? what was in place to receive them initially? more to it than just a flight out.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf
Guess which part POOTWH wrote by his very own self? Good fucking lord we were supposed to be out on May 1st based on the art of the deal maker. And his sycophants will nod their heads in agreement and blame Hillary or Joe. Talk about a cult.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
I did not miss his bullshit spewing at all. Do not want him to have a platform to vomit it from in the future.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
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