They really feed kids this stuff?

brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
edited April 2012 in A Moving Train
Feeding kids "pink slime"? This is disgusting. :sick:

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-us ... chool-food

Why This Is Important

"Pink slime" is the term used for a mixture of beef scraps and connective tissue (formerly used only for pet food and rendering) that is treated with ammonia hydroxide to remove pathogens like salmonella and E coli. These so-called "Lean Beef Trimmings," are produced by Beef Products, Inc.

Two former government microbiologists claim that, for political reasons, pink slime was approved for human consumption by USDA over serious safety concerns. (http://bit.ly/waMMni)

Government and industry records obtained by The New York Times in 2009 showed that "in testing for the school lunch program, E. coli and salmonella pathogens have been found dozens of times in Beef Products meat, challenging claims by the company and the U.S.D.A. about the effectiveness of the treatment. Since 2005, E. coli has been found 3 times and salmonella 48 times, including back-to-back incidents in August in which two 27,000-pound batches were found to be contaminated. The meat was caught before reaching lunch-rooms trays."

Even apart from safety concerns, it is simply wrong to feed our children connective tissues and beef scraps that were, in the past, destined for use in pet food and rendering and were not considered fit for human consumption.

Due to public outcry, fast food giants like McDonald's and Burger King have stopped using pink slime in their food. But the federal government continues to allow its use in school food and has just authorized the purchase of ground beef which collectively contains an additional 7 million pounds of pink slime for consumption by our nation's children.

Tell the USDA to STOP the use of ground beef containing pink slime in the National School Lunch Program!

[You can follow the progress of this petition, including the latest media coverage and more information on pink slime, on my daily blog -- The Lunch Tray (http://www.thelunchtray.com)]
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  • Paul AndrewsPaul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    And you guys are worried about terrorists killing you.

    Seems you are doing a pretty good job of doing it yourselves :?
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    ALOT of people who eat ground beef in this country, not from a local source, eat this stuff. BPI puts ammoniated beef trimmings (pink slime) in about 70% of all beef manufactured in this country. That's coming directly from their website. JMO, but I don't eat any animal product that is not local.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Time for me to start eating more venison...
  • There is a reason that I'm a vegan.

    No... there are MANY reasons that I'm a vegan. This is one of them.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    There is a reason that I'm a vegan.

    No... there are MANY reasons that I'm a vegan. This is one of them.

    And a good one it is!
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    There is a reason that I'm a vegan.

    No... there are MANY reasons that I'm a vegan. This is one of them.

    Same here vegetarian heading towards veganism for sure....I feel really weird grilling burgers and steaks for the kids lately but they understand our stance. Their time will come to make their decisions on what foods are best for them....those teen years are tough.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    I think pink slime would be an upgrade over the slop they used to feed me in public schools. :geek:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this is only the tip of the iceberg ...

    it's crazy how little safeguards exists for people and how the state has basically bent over to the wills of the corporations ... between food, pharmaceuticals and agricultural practices - it's pretty disturbing ...
  • bennett13bennett13 Posts: 439
    This is why I buy all my ground beef from a local meat market...I know they're putting actual beef in the grinder
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    was talking to some environmental phd grad students yesterday and one of the topics was the greenwashing and movement by many companies like chipotle and papa john's to the food justice side ... how they are now advertising their food comes from real farms ...

    pretty sad commentary on the state of the food system currently in place ...
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    My dogs eat better than that.

    Seriously.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Wow, I almost lost my breakfast reading that. :sick: :wtf:
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    it's sad, the fast food industry actually has higher standards than school cafeterias
    don't compete; coexist

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Reminds me of the 60s "Blob" film with McQueen...how it looks, I mean.

    And this: "Due to public outcry, fast food giants like McDonald's and Burger King have stopped using pink slime in their food. But the federal government continues to allow its use in school food and has just authorized the purchase of ground beef which collectively contains an additional 7 million pounds of pink slime for consumption by our nation's children."

    Public outcry? Yes, it's a good thing obviously to speak out against this and some have eliminated this from their menu...but really? It was something that would've just continued on if not for protests?

    And it's still cool for it to be part of daily school diets?

    What happened to just doing the right thing?

    Federal government ROCKS!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i saw this video a few months ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBkwUt-bqIo
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    So we have been eating this "pink slime" for a few decades now as it looks like it is added to the majority of ground beef in the supermarkets ... what is the health concern again? I'll admit it's unappealing and has been given a horrible name in the media, but if it prevents waste and adds to the food supply, what is the real problem?

    Is this a real health issue or a rich-people-without-any-real-problems issue?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    So we have been eating this "pink slime" for a few decades now as it looks like it is added to the majority of ground beef in the supermarkets ... what is the health concern again? I'll admit it's unappealing and has been given a horrible name in the media, but if it prevents waste and adds to the food supply, what is the real problem?

    Is this a real health issue or a rich-people-without-any-real-problems issue?

    meanwhile dietary related illnesses are skyrocketing especially amongst children ... you can't be serious!? ... they use ammonia to process this shit that has absolutely zero nutritional value ... do you know ammonia is toxic to humans!?? ... just because the shit has been in the food system (see gmo, pesticides, etc) - doesn't mean it's good for people ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    So we have been eating this "pink slime" for a few decades now as it looks like it is added to the majority of ground beef in the supermarkets ... what is the health concern again? I'll admit it's unappealing and has been given a horrible name in the media, but if it prevents waste and adds to the food supply, what is the real problem?

    Is this a real health issue or a rich-people-without-any-real-problems issue?

    meanwhile dietary related illnesses are skyrocketing especially amongst children ... you can't be serious!? ... they use ammonia to process this shit that has absolutely zero nutritional value ... do you know ammonia is toxic to humans!?? ... just because the shit has been in the food system (see gmo, pesticides, etc) - doesn't mean it's good for people ...
    Kids ... and most of us ... have horrible diets. Perhaps this is bad, but I would have to see studies to see if ammonia levels are any different then a cow coming straight from the farm. And the general question also begs if it is any more unhealthy then the ingestion of red meat in the first place.

    I agree that if the nutritional content is different then organic meat, that should be clearly distinguished on the label. But if it doesn't pose a health issue and increases the overall food supply while keeping prices low, I don't see a huge issue here.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    Jason P wrote:
    So we have been eating this "pink slime" for a few decades now as it looks like it is added to the majority of ground beef in the supermarkets ... what is the health concern again? I'll admit it's unappealing and has been given a horrible name in the media, but if it prevents waste and adds to the food supply, what is the real problem?

    Is this a real health issue or a rich-people-without-any-real-problems issue?

    Well, JP, if you really want to eat this" food" or feed it to your kids ( :( ), I guess no body is going to stop you. But if you care about your health and the health of kids maybe read on:



    http://www.askrogerdrummer.com/healingh ... sease.html

    (excerpt from article)

    "Pink Slime, Kids & Heart Disease
    "Now, how about that PINK SLIME!

    One of the great things about being into healthy food is the fact that you learn so much about what’s in it. That’s also one of the worst things about. So much of what you learn is so gross that you can get pretty angry. Knowledge is wisdom they say so I thought I’d pass this on. You and your kids have been eating PINK SLIME.

    Ok, so what is Pink Slime? It’s a type of beef bi-product that’s added to hamburger nationwide to make it cheaper and to use up waste products from the meat industry. Yes, waste products. Seems there’s a company in South Dakota that came up with an idea to take the scraps of fat left over from trimming a cow that normally go to making pet food and turn it into human food. The process involves grinding it together with ammonia to kill pathogens and spinning it in a centrifuge to separate the proteins and then packaging it into huge blocks for companies to buy and add to hamburger. The name Pink Slime came from a memo by someone in the FDA who referred to it as such."
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    p.s. I really did not expect this thread to receive any dissension.

    Dumb
    I think think I'm dumb
    Dumb
    Dumb.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    Kids ... and most of us ... have horrible diets. Perhaps this is bad, but I would have to see studies to see if ammonia levels are any different then a cow coming straight from the farm. And the general question also begs if it is any more unhealthy then the ingestion of red meat in the first place.

    I agree that if the nutritional content is different then organic meat, that should be clearly distinguished on the label. But if it doesn't pose a health issue and increases the overall food supply while keeping prices low, I don't see a huge issue here.

    dude ... they are only allowed to include 15% of this stuff maximum ... that in it of itself should tell you it's bad ...

    it's not fit for human consumption ... your faith in corporations is troubling ... they don't care about your health ... see monsanto ...
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    "Soylent Pink... it's made from Children, Left Behind."
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    Cosmo wrote:
    "Soylent Pink... it's made from Children, Left Behind."

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    brianlux wrote:
    p.s. I really did not expect this thread to receive any dissension.

    Dumb
    I think think I'm dumb
    Dumb
    Dumb.
    It isn't dissension. It's learning the facts, not freaking out, and being well informed about what it is. For 20 years it has been in the ground beef food supply without anyone raising an eyebrow. Someone comes along and gives it the name Pink Slime, and it's now one of the biggest health concerns out there.

    I just prefer to know more before grabbing my pitchfork and torch based on one article.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Kids ... and most of us ... have horrible diets. Perhaps this is bad, but I would have to see studies to see if ammonia levels are any different then a cow coming straight from the farm. And the general question also begs if it is any more unhealthy then the ingestion of red meat in the first place.

    I agree that if the nutritional content is different then organic meat, that should be clearly distinguished on the label. But if it doesn't pose a health issue and increases the overall food supply while keeping prices low, I don't see a huge issue here.

    dude ... they are only allowed to include 15% of this stuff maximum ... that in it of itself should tell you it's bad ...

    it's not fit for human consumption ... your faith in corporations is troubling ... they don't care about your health ... see monsanto ...

    If it's such a big deal to you, don't buy it.
  • Paul AndrewsPaul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

    I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

    Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

    Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

    We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

    We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

    We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

    It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

    I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

    The choice is ours to be made.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

    I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

    Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

    Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

    We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

    We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

    We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

    It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

    I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

    The choice is ours to be made.

    Nothing like tooting our own horn...

    I mean, it's great what the two of you are doing, but the focus is on our kid's school lunches. Parents in particular should know about this pink slime and not subject their kids blindly to what's being served at school.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    time to brown bag it kids. *shudders*
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  • Paul AndrewsPaul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

    I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

    Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

    Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

    We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

    We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

    We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

    It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

    I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

    The choice is ours to be made.

    Nothing like tooting our own horn...

    I mean, it's great what the two of you are doing, but the focus is on our kid's school lunches. Parents in particular should know about this pink slime and not subject their kids blindly to what's being served at school.

    Sorry got a bit carried away, but the point I was trying to make is that this is the role model we set for our kids and the way we raise them. We cook all their foods and send that same food with them to school in their lunchboxes. By letting the 'run for profit' school cafeteria feed your kids, I believe you're asking for trouble. Jamie Oliver pointed this out and was banned from certain states' schools.

    Pink slime, HFCS, transfats and other 'food products' abound in the food we give our children - less so here in Australia, but we usually follow your lead eventually. It is only by rejecting these profit making practices and returning to the basics of good lifestyle that our children will grow to be healthy, informed consumers.
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