They really feed kids this stuff?

brianlux

p.s. I really did not expect this thread to receive any dissension.

Dumb
I think think I'm dumb
Dumb
Dumb.

polaris_x

Jason P wrote:

Kids ... and most of us ... have horrible diets. Perhaps this is bad, but I would have to see studies to see if ammonia levels are any different then a cow coming straight from the farm. And the general question also begs if it is any more unhealthy then the ingestion of red meat in the first place.

I agree that if the nutritional content is different then organic meat, that should be clearly distinguished on the label. But if it doesn't pose a health issue and increases the overall food supply while keeping prices low, I don't see a huge issue here.

dude ... they are only allowed to include 15% of this stuff maximum ... that in it of itself should tell you it's bad ...

it's not fit for human consumption ... your faith in corporations is troubling ... they don't care about your health ... see monsanto ...

Cosmo

"Soylent Pink... it's made from Children, Left Behind."

brianlux

Cosmo wrote:

"Soylent Pink... it's made from Children, Left Behind."

Jason P

brianlux wrote:

p.s. I really did not expect this thread to receive any dissension.

Dumb
I think think I'm dumb
Dumb
Dumb.

It isn't dissension. It's learning the facts, not freaking out, and being well informed about what it is. For 20 years it has been in the ground beef food supply without anyone raising an eyebrow. Someone comes along and gives it the name Pink Slime, and it's now one of the biggest health concerns out there.

I just prefer to know more before grabbing my pitchfork and torch based on one article.

peacefrompaul

polaris_x wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Kids ... and most of us ... have horrible diets. Perhaps this is bad, but I would have to see studies to see if ammonia levels are any different then a cow coming straight from the farm. And the general question also begs if it is any more unhealthy then the ingestion of red meat in the first place.

I agree that if the nutritional content is different then organic meat, that should be clearly distinguished on the label. But if it doesn't pose a health issue and increases the overall food supply while keeping prices low, I don't see a huge issue here.

dude ... they are only allowed to include 15% of this stuff maximum ... that in it of itself should tell you it's bad ...

it's not fit for human consumption ... your faith in corporations is troubling ... they don't care about your health ... see monsanto ...

If it's such a big deal to you, don't buy it.

Paul Andrews

The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

The choice is ours to be made.

Jeanwah

Paul Andrews wrote:

The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

The choice is ours to be made.

Nothing like tooting our own horn...

I mean, it's great what the two of you are doing, but the focus is on our kid's school lunches. Parents in particular should know about this pink slime and not subject their kids blindly to what's being served at school.

catefrances

time to brown bag it kids. *shudders*

Paul Andrews

Jeanwah wrote:

Paul Andrews wrote:

The food we put into our bodies is our choice. It is easy with a little effort to ensure you get the best your body needs and avoid products like pink slime and other rubbish the 'food industry' present to us.

I am 43 this year and my wife is 40. We are both very fit and healthy and are constantly complimented by our family doctor on our level of health and the face we're engaging in preventative measures to ward off disease and many of the effects of aging. We both exercise regularly and neither of us smoke or drink a great deal.

Our family are ethical omnivores. While I understand people's wish for vegetarianism, and have lived as a vegetarian for periods of my life, we do believe in eating humanely farmed meat and sustainable fish. We do have 'vegetarian days' but eat high protein diets so a meat is often in our meals.

Where practicable we do not eat anything other than locally sourced produce and avoid highly processed foods as much as possible and stay away from high fructose corn syrup and unnecessary sugar. We only eat wholemeal bread or pasta and cook almost all our own food. The kids take their lunches to school from home. Fast food is a once a year purchase - if that.

We have own our own mincer and I make 100% visual lean beef, pork or chicken mince. The meat is all free range, free from preservatives and fat. We purchase fresh fruit and vegetables from local growers markets and encourage our children to eat fruit for snacks. We always have a variety of raw nuts in our pantry - usually almonds or cashews. My wife bakes ANZACS (Aussie Oat Cookies).

We make our own pizza, hamburgers, pies and other 'convenience foods'. We roast our own free range chickens rather than purchase pre-cooked. We cook our own Asian inspired food rather than get take out.

We eat only free range humanely farmed eggs and plan to get our own chickens in the next few months and farm our own. We have a 750 square metre block so we plan to grow some of our own vegetables too.

It takes a little extra time, but once it is part of your routine, preparing all your own foods and finding the healthiest options is not hard and in the long term is a lot cheaper than eating muck.

I recommend the following book "The End of Illness" by David B Agus.

The choice is ours to be made.

Nothing like tooting our own horn...

I mean, it's great what the two of you are doing, but the focus is on our kid's school lunches. Parents in particular should know about this pink slime and not subject their kids blindly to what's being served at school.

Sorry got a bit carried away, but the point I was trying to make is that this is the role model we set for our kids and the way we raise them. We cook all their foods and send that same food with them to school in their lunchboxes. By letting the 'run for profit' school cafeteria feed your kids, I believe you're asking for trouble. Jamie Oliver pointed this out and was banned from certain states' schools.

Pink slime, HFCS, transfats and other 'food products' abound in the food we give our children - less so here in Australia, but we usually follow your lead eventually. It is only by rejecting these profit making practices and returning to the basics of good lifestyle that our children will grow to be healthy, informed consumers.

catefrances

humanely farmed animals still end up dead.

brianlux

Jason P wrote:

brianlux wrote:

p.s. I really did not expect this thread to receive any dissension.

Dumb
I think think I'm dumb
Dumb
Dumb.

It isn't dissension. It's learning the facts, not freaking out, and being well informed about what it is. For 20 years it has been in the ground beef food supply without anyone raising an eyebrow. Someone comes along and gives it the name Pink Slime, and it's now one of the biggest health concerns out there.

I just prefer to know more before grabbing my pitchfork and torch based on one article.

OK, fair enough, and for someone who touts critical thinking as I do, I appreciate your questioning the issue.

Yes, it has been in our (U.S. and probably beyond) food supply for quite awhile-- although at the risk of sounding a bit arrogant, not mine nor the kids who've been in my life. And I should have posted more than the one article on this- there are several. And we should have know about this stuff 20 years ago.

So now, knowing our kids are getting feed this crap, can we now raise our torches and pitch forks and demand an end to this? As others have pointed out here, I wouldn't feed this stuff to my animals let alone to any kids.

Paul Andrews

catefrances wrote:

humanely farmed animals still end up dead.

Yep, they do, as do the other animals below them on the food chain in the wild - no-one criticises a lion for eating a zebra. And if one day I'm eaten by a shark while surfing, I'm just in the food chain.

I don't want to start a vegetarian v meat eater debate, but I support humane farming and slaughter and sustainable fishing practices and will only eat meat products farmed in this way. This means no battery farm eggs or chicken and only meat that has been sourced from animals stunned before slaughter and grown on free range farms.

catefrances

Paul Andrews wrote:

catefrances wrote:

humanely farmed animals still end up dead.

Yep, the do, as do the other animals below them on the food chain in the wild - no-one criticises a lion for eating a zebra.

I don't want to start a vegetarian v meat eater debate, but I support humane farming and slaughter and sustainable fishing practices and will only eat meat products farmed in this way.

no debate here.. i just find it amusing when i hear someone say humanly slaughtered.

Paul Andrews

catefrances wrote:

Paul Andrews wrote:

catefrances wrote:

humanely farmed animals still end up dead.

Yep, the do, as do the other animals below them on the food chain in the wild - no-one criticises a lion for eating a zebra.

I don't want to start a vegetarian v meat eater debate, but I support humane farming and slaughter and sustainable fishing practices and will only eat meat products farmed in this way.

no debate here.. i just find it amusing when i hear someone say humanly slaughtered.

Humanely slaughtered means the animal is unconscious when killed and unaware of their fate. This is usually by use of a 'captive bolt system' which, when administered properly renders the animal unconscious without pain. This does sound callous, but it is a humane way as opposed to other practices and definitely less painful than being ripped apart by lions.

Humanely farmed means free range, not force fed and not transported large distances to slaughterhouses.

catefrances

Paul Andrews wrote:

Humanely slaughtered means the animal is unconscious when killed and unaware of their fate. This is usually by use of a 'captive bolt system' which, when administered properly renders the animal unconscious without pain. This does sound callous, but it is a humane way as opposed to other practices and definitely less painful than being ripped apart by lions.

Humanely farmed means free range, not force fed and not transported large distances to slaughterhouses.

yes i know what it means... doesnt make it any less amusing to me.

Paul Andrews

catefrances wrote:

Paul Andrews wrote:

Humanely slaughtered means the animal is unconscious when killed and unaware of their fate. This is usually by use of a 'captive bolt system' which, when administered properly renders the animal unconscious without pain. This does sound callous, but it is a humane way as opposed to other practices and definitely less painful than being ripped apart by lions.

Humanely farmed means free range, not force fed and not transported large distances to slaughterhouses.

yes i know what it means... doesnt make it any less amusing to me.

Yeah it is an oxymoron

iamica

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

There is a reason that I'm a vegan.

No... there are MANY reasons that I'm a vegan. This is one of them.

Jason P

brianlux wrote:

OK, fair enough, and for someone who touts critical thinking as I do, I appreciate your questioning the issue.

Yes, it has been in our (U.S. and probably beyond) food supply for quite awhile-- although at the risk of sounding a bit arrogant, not mine nor the kids who've been in my life. And I should have posted more than the one article on this- there are several. And we should have know about this stuff 20 years ago.

So now, knowing our kids are getting feed this crap, can we now raise our torches and pitch forks and demand an end to this? As others have pointed out here, I wouldn't feed this stuff to my animals let alone to any kids.

I guess as someone who enjoys the occasional Slim Jim, sometimes I don't want to know what certain foods are made of.

I'm all for the FDA requiring more information on all products. You're right, we should have known this 20 years ago, whether or not there are any health risks associated. I've been watching what I eat and it's tough to stay healthy based on the information on hand at the local supermarket (especially when trying to avoid sodium ... it's everywhere).

The reaction to the Pink Slim has been huge ... but my money says that in the end it's still more healthy then the deep-fried chicken nuggets kids get served. :shh:

If you care about your kids, start packing their lunches. As I've echoed here in the past, don't rely on the government for your welfare.

polaris_x

peacefrompaul wrote:

If it's such a big deal to you, don't buy it.

what kind of attitude is this? ... corporations are poisoning the population and this is what you think?

btw - they don't use pink slime in canada ... just like they ban rbgh here ... we aren't the greatest country in the world but we do care a little about the people ...