Just Had Some Bible Thumpers Visit...

Prince Of Dorkness

hedonist wrote:

I did read your post-script (actually mentioned it in another thread), but that would sort of be like me making frequent angry derrogatory comments about a group - any group - followed by "well, I don't REALLY believe this, just trying to make a point".

And I think most reasonable people wouldn't judge an entire group - whether yours, mine, ours, theirs - by the actions of a few. (and for the record, I have no problem with dog collars or other accoutrements)

You strike me as an intelligent, well-spoken and fairly-reasonable man. It just sucks when the path of constructive conversation is stymied by certain comments.

As to your last question...my guy's a non-drinking Irish-German...so there ya go

Meh.

We all have our way of driving our points home.

Some have this weird "love everyone and your world will be renewed so mote it be" thing (which I think is just plain silly) and some have the "let's try to wax poetic in a very sensible way that only mentions logic and rules but removes the human condition entirely."

Then you have my sarcastic self who uses jabs and sarcasm to make people question their own opinions and reasoning.

Yesterday I had a member here send me a PM that was very friendly and kind but he did mention that he didn't "agree with the gay lifestyle."

Now... I saw he was trying to Reach out and he was being nice so I did my best to answer that tone and (I think) got him to question just what he meant by the terms "gay lifestyle" and "don't agree with."

We both walked away feeling a lot better.

But when I am told that I kinda deserve to have my rights voted away because some people dress outrageously at a parade... (and to bring it back to the original topic) that I should treat the people who orchestrated that vote with "respect and kindness" when they come to my front door...

I'm going to answer such absurd reasoning with a pretty harsh reaction. I think reasoning like that deserves a bit of comedic sarcasm.

I might be wrong.

hedonist

Meh indeed, though fair enough.

drinkbigredinstead

If the government was threatening to separate your family, would you just say "oh we'll... Don't worry, be happy?"

No - I would fight the government with every last drop of my blood.

Most here though, our wonderful little community of PJ fans, would do what we could to help. We are not your enemy.


I truly hope your troubles are resolved soon and that the most weighing thoughts you have are "how many PJ shows can I fit in this tour?"

cincybearcat

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

No he is describing what he sees on TV, not the majority of weddings.

No, I'm describing what I see out in public.

Although imagine how annoyed you feel being described by what someone sees on TV.

That's what happens with gay pride parades, too.

I'm not offended, my wedding wasn't like that. I just find it ironic that you are so judgmental about it and spouting off about a stupid stereotype.

EDIT: I think I missed your point in that. You are tough to read.

Cosmo

I was thiking about this... it's not just the religious solicitors, it's anyone who knocks on your door. Everyone who knocks on your door is usually trying to sell you something... whether it's a subscription to a magazine or eternal life. It's all the same. They are all salesmen.
As for inviting them into your house... yeah, right? Who does that? Lonely old losers or Jeffrey Dahmers, that's who. You get them going and they will never shut up til you sign on the dotted line. You may not care about someone you don't know wasting your weekend time trying to sell you something you don't need... but, I do. I have better things to do... like masturbating.
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The best way to handle it is with truth... tell them you just are not interested in what they are selling and let them go on to bug your neighbor. Or just do what I do to many of them... ignore the doorbell and just wait for them to move on.
Note: Do Not ignore the police. Especially the ones with the helmets, shields, automatic weapons and a fucking battering ram. I seen them come knocking a couple of times in my complex (one was a bank robber who tried to hold up at his mom's house, the other was a son at his mother's house threatening his sister and mother with a knife). Both cases ended up with the door busted into splinters and flash grenades going off in the living room. I do not recommend you ignore the police.

Prince Of Dorkness

drinkbigredinstead wrote:

If the government was threatening to separate your family, would you just say "oh we'll... Don't worry, be happy?"

No - I would fight the government with every last drop of my blood.

Most here though, our wonderful little community of PJ fans, would do what we could to help. We are not your enemy.


I truly hope your troubles are resolved soon and that the most weighing thoughts you have are "how many PJ shows can I fit in this tour?"

I usually do four shows.

Anyway,.. You are very right that most of us here are all on side. I know most here are not the enemy, but this thread was about religious people coming to your door and how do we deal with them.

Being someone whose family was targeted by the Mormons, I said that I tell them to go f*ck themselves. And honestly, I think I'm totally within my rights to do that. Just as I think an African-Ameican would be totally within his rights to tell a Klansmen where to go. Respect and kindness are both granted and given until you prove yourselves unworthy.

I would submit that Mormons have proven themselves unworthy of my respect and kindness.

drinkbigredinstead

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

drinkbigredinstead wrote:

If the government was threatening to separate your family, would you just say "oh we'll... Don't worry, be happy?"

No - I would fight the government with every last drop of my blood.

Most here though, our wonderful little community of PJ fans, would do what we could to help. We are not your enemy.


I truly hope your troubles are resolved soon and that the most weighing thoughts you have are "how many PJ shows can I fit in this tour?"

I usually do four shows.

Anyway,.. You are very right that most of us here are all on side. I know most here are not the enemy, but this thread was about religious people coming to your door and how do we deal with them.

Being someone whose family was targeted by the Mormons, I said that I tell them to go f*ck themselves. And honestly, I think I'm totally within my rights to do that. Just as I think an African-Ameican would be totally within his rights to tell a Klansmen where to go. Respect and kindness are both granted and given until you prove yourselves unworthy.

I would submit that Mormons have proven themselves unworthy of my respect and kindness.

You are correct...this thread is about religious people coming to your door.

I have to say my worst experience was with sales people. I was 7 months pregnant and taking a shower while my 3 year old son was watching TV. Well I out of the shower and start calling for my son since he wasn't on my bed watching TV, I go downstairs to find these strangers in my foyer asking my son for water!! When I asked them why they were in my house univited they pointed to my son and said 'he let us in' WTF!!! Needless to say we installed a deadbolt and I had a long talk with my son about answering the door.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

so many people telling Prince to "stop being so angry". Would you have said that to a black person in the 50's? or even now? Jesus Christ people, look at what his community goes through on a daily basis. I find it appalling what goes on and is tolerated, and I'm fucking straight! Just the same as I find racism appalling! Why don't you people see the relation here?

while I don't agree with people telling others to fuck off just because they came to their door uninvited, I think Prince (and anyone in a similar position) has every right to. Almost obligated to.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Godfather. wrote:

don't take it out on someone who has shown the train love and respect in just about every post she does..com'on man.

Godfather.

replace "love and respect" with "judgment and condescension", and I'll agree with you.

SweetChildofMine

anybody can say the words - anybody can preach the words

but its all in the actions

and the actions of love come from understanding

with actions of understanding comes compassion and empathy and so moves the exponential ripples on the ocean.

Your actions will speak louder than a stupid few words on a forum page.

Your actions will prove your negative or positive flow upon humanity, your actions are a testament to your character whether or not u believe in any faith

your integrity, kindness, truth and purity of actions from the heart show and produce positive permanent lasting flow/ripples

selfish actions(even done or seen as a giving action) will still produce negative flow/ripples

such things do not lie or steal

negative actions have bad consequences


anyway

pandora

"And he still gives his love, he just gives it away
The love he receives is the love that is saved"

Brisk.

MISS YOU MAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO129-RfhVE

SweetChildofMine

Lol... but "God" intervenes at the point of gutting... stops the follower and says this was just a test and only a test of your faith and the child lives


furthermore, on the testament & stupendous long explanations on understanding such insane things ... I will remain silent

Prince Of Dorkness

SweetChildofMine wrote:

Lol... but "God" intervenes at the point of gutting... stops the follower and says this was just a test and only a test of your faith and the child lives


furthermore, on the testament & stupendous long explanations on understanding such insane things ... I will remain silent

No... In the story of Job, he kills everything that he loves to show his love for the blood-thirsty Christian god.

Nobody intervenes.

SweetChildofMine

Oh I was thinking of the other story of.... Issac & Abraham. Genesis 22

SweetChildofMine

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

SweetChildofMine wrote:

Lol... but "God" intervenes at the point of gutting... stops the follower and says this was just a test and only a test of your faith and the child lives


furthermore, on the testament & stupendous long explanations on understanding such insane things ... I will remain silent

No... In the story of Job, he kills everything that he loves to show his love for the blood-thirsty Christian god.

Nobody intervenes.

read up buddy

lol

Job is tested by God by asking Satan to take away his wealth and family everything he has to see he if curses or turns from his Faith then. God replaces everything he loses and then some after all his sufferings.

blood thristy is a bit strong? Besides its Satan that does that stuff to see if he will turn to him instead. soooo...

Jeanwah

Seeing where this thread has gone, all I can say is...

Meh!


Live and let live, mind your own business and tell no one else how they should live.

pandora

live and let live and love... most important part I'd say

Cosmo

Jeanwah wrote:

Seeing where this thread has gone, all I can say is...
Meh!
Live and let live, mind your own business and tell no one else how they should live.

...
Yeah, Jean... that's my basic M.O.

pandora

Funniest thing some claim to stay out of other's business then just get all up in it ...
even in their most private space...
that is one part I have learned ... the claiming part.

Speaking of soliciting ...
Girl Scout cookies are on the way...
I think that is one door most are going to happily answer