All I'm saying is that it would become a lot harder to dismiss knocks against PJ that have been made in the past by guys like Cobain if PJ went and played some commercialized circus like the Super Bowl. Hard to reconcile some of the things Pearl Jam has said, done and stood for with playing a spectacle like the Super Bowl.
when was the last time a performer/band really benefited from the 15mins of exposure during the SuperBowl...
hasn't been any benefit to the last 5 as far as I can tell...
Madonna...over-the-top lip-synching
Black Eyed Peas...like the majority of reviews, I agree that this was pretty unspectacular
the Who....the sound quality killed this one...showed their age as well
Springsteen...got to admit, not bad. But, what did he gain? A few sales on iTunes? He seems better than that.
Tom Petty...zzzzzz. Same ol. same ol...& I LIKE Petty
the last good one was Prince & he didn't exactly light up the Soundscan charts after it either...but it was a pretty solid performance. Rain & all
it all seems like a huge money grab to me.....just my opinion though
& yes I would watch PJ do it, but I'd still feel a little sad inside
All I'm saying is they've collaborated with Target and Ticketmaster.
What's the big deal if they play the superbowl?
That wasn't really a Target commercial per say...
It was really a commercial for Backspacer that was being sold at Target or on itunes.
As bad as that "video" was, at least there was a reason behind it.
I don't think Pearl Jam would ever play the SB. It just doesn't seem like their bag.
Besides, who would want to see a bunch of radio singles crow-barred together for a 15 minute set.
I think Prince and Petty both have a better catalog for a "hit and run" kind of show...
Just my 2 cents.
After watching that terrible "performance" by Madonna I would NEVER want PJ to perform the superbowl.
That entire show was just an overproduced waste. 99.9% of the talent in that performance was everyone except Madonna. PJ doesn't do stupid circus act shows like this, so performing at the super bowl would be too "boring" for the general sheep. And if they did turn it into a circus act, they would be complete sellouts.
Im not the type to call out a band for selling out, didn really care about the target deal, but PJ+super bowl= sellout.
All I'm saying is they've collaborated with Target and Ticketmaster.
What's the big deal if they play the superbowl?
That wasn't really a Target commercial per say...
It was really a commercial for Backspacer that was being sold at Target or on itunes.
As bad as that "video" was, at least there was a reason behind it.
I don't think Pearl Jam would ever play the SB. It just doesn't seem like their bag.
Besides, who would want to see a bunch of radio singles crow-barred together for a 15 minute set.
I think Prince and Petty both have a better catalog for a "hit and run" kind of show...
Just my 2 cents.
After watching that terrible "performance" by Madonna I would NEVER want PJ to perform the superbowl.
That entire show was just an overproduced waste. 99.9% of the talent in that performance was everyone except Madonna. PJ doesn't do stupid circus act shows like this, so performing at the super bowl would be too "boring" for the general sheep. And if they did turn it into a circus act, they would be complete sellouts.
Im not the type to call out a band for selling out, didn really care about the target deal, but PJ+super bowl= sellout.
After watching that terrible "performance" by Madonna I would NEVER want PJ to perform the superbowl.
That entire show was just an overproduced waste. 99.9% of the talent in that performance was everyone except Madonna. PJ doesn't do stupid circus act shows like this, so performing at the super bowl would be too "boring" for the general sheep. And if they did turn it into a circus act, they would be complete sellouts.
Im not the type to call out a band for selling out, didn really care about the target deal, but PJ+super bowl= sellout.
They don't have to do a show like that.
I'm pretty sure the artist doesn't produce the half-time performance. In other words, PJ probably wouldn't have a lot of say in how much of a circus the show turned out to be.
I'm surprised that more people don't agree that the Super Bowl is completely not PJ's thing.
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the people concerned that if PJ played the SB they would have rappers and dancers and backup singers on stage must not have watched the superbowl with Tom Petty...... a great band doesnt need all that crap and Pearl Jam certainly wouldnt want it.
The reason they have to have 9 different entertainers (not musicians) on stage for one halftime show is because it takes 9 of them to add up to 1 actual good band....... if even.
With that said, I dont want Pearl Jam to play the SB.........because you have to be a sellout to accept that offer.
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the nfl and the network produce the show...atleast they did last night
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the people concerned that if PJ played the SB they would have rappers and dancers and backup singers on stage must not have watched the superbowl with Tom Petty...... a great band doesnt need all that crap and Pearl Jam certainly wouldnt want it.
True.
With that said, I dont want Pearl Jam to play the SB.........because you have to be a sellout to accept that offer.
Also probably true.
the nfl and the network produce the show...atleast they did last night
Again, also true.
Which means that PJ might not want backup singers and Lady Gaga (I was more or less joking in my initial response), but because the show is usually not produced by the band, they wouldn't have a lot of ability to protest if the producers wanted, say, Steven Tyler to come out and sing with the band. (Can you imagine the boardroom thinking that would produce a suggestion like this? Sadly, I can...)
This all leads me back to my subjective conclusion that PJ playing the Super Bowl is a nightmare scenario.
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Which means that PJ might not want backup singers and Lady Gaga (I was more or less joking in my initial response), but because the show is usually not produced by the band, they wouldn't have a lot of ability to protest if the producers wanted, say, Steven Tyler to come out and sing with the band. (Can you imagine the boardroom thinking that would produce a suggestion like this? Sadly, I can...)
This all leads me back to my subjective conclusion that PJ playing the Super Bowl is a nightmare scenario.
So what if the NFL said - hey, whataya think of having Pete play with you?
Why are folks saying what pj would be "forced" to do based on what peas and Madonna did? That makes no sense. You need look no further than the who, Springsteen, petty to see that bands that don't do that stuff ordinarily, don't do it here? I've never seen Madonna, but I'm guessing her actual show is not much different than the over production we ignored last night.
And I love the sell out comments. So,when thet get in the rock hof, should they decline? Or do what their heroes did and accept? The sb is a prestigious event. Pj should be begging to do it just to mark it off their bucket list. It has nothing to do with getting a popularity bump or selling out. It's just something cool to do that not many folks get to do. And it is the largest crowd by far that would ever have the option of seeing them.
I don't care either way, but all this self righteousness is silly. They work with ticketmaster! Can we please stop pretending they are in their 20's?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Which means that PJ might not want backup singers and Lady Gaga (I was more or less joking in my initial response), but because the show is usually not produced by the band, they wouldn't have a lot of ability to protest if the producers wanted, say, Steven Tyler to come out and sing with the band. (Can you imagine the boardroom thinking that would produce a suggestion like this? Sadly, I can...)
This all leads me back to my subjective conclusion that PJ playing the Super Bowl is a nightmare scenario.
So what if the NFL said - hey, whataya think of having Pete play with you?
Why are folks saying what pj would be "forced" to do based on what peas and Madonna did? That makes no sense. You need look no further than the who, Springsteen, petty to see that bands that don't do that stuff ordinarily, don't do it here? I've never seen Madonna, but I'm guessing her actual show is not much different than the over production we ignored last night.
And I love the sell out comments. So,when thet get in the rock hof, should they decline? Or do what their heroes did and accept? The sb is a prestigious event. Pj should be begging to do it just to mark it off their bucket list. It has nothing to do with getting a popularity bump or selling out. It's just something cool to do that not many folks get to do. And it is the largest crowd by far that would ever have the option of seeing them.
I don't care either way, but all this self righteousness is silly. They work with ticketmaster! Can we please stop pretending they are in their 20's?
Look I'm not trying to debate the politics of selling out or not (although I seriously beg to differ that the Super Bowl is a prestigious event or that PJ would have it on their "bucket list"); I'm just saying that for me personally, seeing PJ on that stage, with the ridiculous circus that it is, is personally a nightmare for me as a fan. It's not self-righteousness; its my opinion.
I guess I'm actually shocked that more people think PJ would actually entertain playing something like this. With all we know about the band, is there any doubt that the band (Ed in particular) would be completely averse to this? Again, this is just my opinion and I'm just shocked that on this point, more people don't share it.
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Not a good idea for PJ. They wouldn't even think about doing it.
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I'm not going to pretend to know what someone I don't know personally thinks, but who doesn't want to be a rock star and play in front of 100 million people?
I also find it interesting that it seems that folks on this board think pj is not talented or good enough to overcome the limitations of the set up. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
And going on MTV unplugged is NOT selling out, but playing to the biggest audience of your life is?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
going on MTV unplugged is NOT selling out, but playing to the biggest audience of your life is?
going on MTV UnPlugged at the beginning of your career, 20yrs ago, is NOT selling out....
playing the SuperBowl 20yrs & 70 million records later, IMO.....is
going on MTV unplugged is NOT selling out, but playing to the biggest audience of your life is?
going on MTV UnPlugged at the beginning of your career, 20yrs ago, is NOT selling out....
playing the SuperBowl 20yrs & 70 million records later, IMO.....is
And what is going on late night tv and agreeing to sing balls in your mouth? (as funny as that was)
And who cares? Either I like their music or I don't. Whatever they choose to do is fine with me.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
And what is going on late night tv and agreeing to sing balls in your mouth? (as funny as that was)
totally different scenario....c'mon
I don't care, but I don't see how that is not worse. The only reason to do that is sell records. Which is perfectly fine. But feel free to rationalize.
They would do it if asked (assuming they are not forced to do a Madonna style show. Though it would be fun to see Stone in a corset. )
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I'll sign the petition as long as they play the Super Bowl Halftime Show drunk ..... like they did for the 'Singles' release promotional party back in '92.
No million dollar stage set-up, extravagant costumes, outrageous light show ... just a simple stage and PJ.
Now that would be entertaining and something to see (definitely better than sitting thru another boring lip-synced performance by Madonna). And who wouldn't love to see Eddie staring into the camera and repeatedly screaming "F@%k NBC ... berating the crowd, excutives and government officials..... while destroying the stage. :P
can anyone who thinks pj would play the sb please get a clue and leave? if you have any clue what the band is about you know they wont be there. sorry for candor but its just how it is.
Fair enough. But who turns down the biggest gig of their lives? Paul McCartney didn't. The Who didn't. Bruce Springsteen didn't. So on and so forth.
McCartney was a Beatle....nuff said
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He continued, admitting that the show could have gone better, "Cameras were everywhere, I was so blinded that I couldn't see.
Springsteen did ok....but what did he gain?
wasnt springsteen also on american idol or one of those shit shows? w all due respect to all other bands, they still arent Pj. i can maybe see it when pj's reached the iconic level of a springsteen or who (if they do). Basically, when theyre really, really old and its just like what the hell, why not?
I'd bet that the artists that play the SB Halftime show are only doing it because they are getting obscene amounts of money to do so..... I'm guessing that gig could command a cool million.
I'll sign the petition as long as they play the Super Bowl Halftime Show drunk ..... like they did for the 'Singles' release promotional party back in '92.
No million dollar stage set-up, extravagant costumes, outrageous light show ... just a simple stage and PJ.
Now that would be entertaining and something to see (definitely better than sitting thru another boring lip-synced performance by Madonna). And who wouldn't love to see Eddie staring into the camera and repeatedly screaming "F@%k NBC ... berating the crowd, excutives and government officials..... while destroying the stage. :P
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All I'm saying is they've collaborated with Target and Ticketmaster.
What's the big deal if they play the superbowl?
hasn't been any benefit to the last 5 as far as I can tell...
Madonna...over-the-top lip-synching
Black Eyed Peas...like the majority of reviews, I agree that this was pretty unspectacular
the Who....the sound quality killed this one...showed their age as well
Springsteen...got to admit, not bad. But, what did he gain? A few sales on iTunes? He seems better than that.
Tom Petty...zzzzzz. Same ol. same ol...& I LIKE Petty
the last good one was Prince & he didn't exactly light up the Soundscan charts after it either...but it was a pretty solid performance. Rain & all
it all seems like a huge money grab to me.....just my opinion though
& yes I would watch PJ do it, but I'd still feel a little sad inside
That wasn't really a Target commercial per say...
It was really a commercial for Backspacer that was being sold at Target or on itunes.
As bad as that "video" was, at least there was a reason behind it.
I don't think Pearl Jam would ever play the SB. It just doesn't seem like their bag.
Besides, who would want to see a bunch of radio singles crow-barred together for a 15 minute set.
I think Prince and Petty both have a better catalog for a "hit and run" kind of show...
Just my 2 cents.
That entire show was just an overproduced waste. 99.9% of the talent in that performance was everyone except Madonna. PJ doesn't do stupid circus act shows like this, so performing at the super bowl would be too "boring" for the general sheep. And if they did turn it into a circus act, they would be complete sellouts.
Im not the type to call out a band for selling out, didn really care about the target deal, but PJ+super bowl= sellout.
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Uh.... Alright man.
They don't have to do a show like that.
That's all.
I'm pretty sure the artist doesn't produce the half-time performance. In other words, PJ probably wouldn't have a lot of say in how much of a circus the show turned out to be.
I'm surprised that more people don't agree that the Super Bowl is completely not PJ's thing.
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The reason they have to have 9 different entertainers (not musicians) on stage for one halftime show is because it takes 9 of them to add up to 1 actual good band....... if even.
With that said, I dont want Pearl Jam to play the SB.........because you have to be a sellout to accept that offer.
True.
Also probably true.
Again, also true.
Which means that PJ might not want backup singers and Lady Gaga (I was more or less joking in my initial response), but because the show is usually not produced by the band, they wouldn't have a lot of ability to protest if the producers wanted, say, Steven Tyler to come out and sing with the band. (Can you imagine the boardroom thinking that would produce a suggestion like this? Sadly, I can...)
This all leads me back to my subjective conclusion that PJ playing the Super Bowl is a nightmare scenario.
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If I knew where it was I would take you there.
So what if the NFL said - hey, whataya think of having Pete play with you?
Why are folks saying what pj would be "forced" to do based on what peas and Madonna did? That makes no sense. You need look no further than the who, Springsteen, petty to see that bands that don't do that stuff ordinarily, don't do it here? I've never seen Madonna, but I'm guessing her actual show is not much different than the over production we ignored last night.
And I love the sell out comments. So,when thet get in the rock hof, should they decline? Or do what their heroes did and accept? The sb is a prestigious event. Pj should be begging to do it just to mark it off their bucket list. It has nothing to do with getting a popularity bump or selling out. It's just something cool to do that not many folks get to do. And it is the largest crowd by far that would ever have the option of seeing them.
I don't care either way, but all this self righteousness is silly. They work with ticketmaster! Can we please stop pretending they are in their 20's?
Look I'm not trying to debate the politics of selling out or not (although I seriously beg to differ that the Super Bowl is a prestigious event or that PJ would have it on their "bucket list"); I'm just saying that for me personally, seeing PJ on that stage, with the ridiculous circus that it is, is personally a nightmare for me as a fan. It's not self-righteousness; its my opinion.
I guess I'm actually shocked that more people think PJ would actually entertain playing something like this. With all we know about the band, is there any doubt that the band (Ed in particular) would be completely averse to this? Again, this is just my opinion and I'm just shocked that on this point, more people don't share it.
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I also find it interesting that it seems that folks on this board think pj is not talented or good enough to overcome the limitations of the set up. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
And going on MTV unplugged is NOT selling out, but playing to the biggest audience of your life is?
going on MTV UnPlugged at the beginning of your career, 20yrs ago, is NOT selling out....
playing the SuperBowl 20yrs & 70 million records later, IMO.....is
I think the feeling is mutual. I'm guessing they are not on the nfl's radar. Maybe if Theo becomes NFL commissioner, that rumor could start.
And what is going on late night tv and agreeing to sing balls in your mouth? (as funny as that was)
And who cares? Either I like their music or I don't. Whatever they choose to do is fine with me.
totally different scenario....c'mon
I don't care, but I don't see how that is not worse. The only reason to do that is sell records. Which is perfectly fine. But feel free to rationalize.
They would do it if asked (assuming they are not forced to do a Madonna style show. Though it would be fun to see Stone in a corset.
I disagree
Fair enough. But who turns down the biggest gig of their lives? Paul McCartney didn't. The Who didn't. Bruce Springsteen didn't. So on and so forth.
The Who sounded terrible & they said so: "Daltrey says, "It didn't even feel like a concert. It's a television show. And what can you do in twelve minutes?"
He continued, admitting that the show could have gone better, "Cameras were everywhere, I was so blinded that I couldn't see.
Springsteen did ok....but what did he gain?
agree to disagree
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