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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,799
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Agree.  
    The Browns are hot trash

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Agree.  
    The Browns are hot trash

    Your tears are nourishing. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Zero chance the NFL wins in federal court.  Plus,  all of its Kraft, Jones,  and other dirty secrets become discoverable, because it's the basis for their defense.  That's no good for the league. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,799
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Agree.  
    The Browns are hot trash

    Your tears are nourishing. 
     
    🔥 🗑 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Agree.  
    The Browns are hot trash

    Your tears are nourishing. 
     
    🔥 🗑 
    Cock and balls,  please
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 

    its allowed under the cba....
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 

    its allowed under the cba....
    yeah, I’m pretty sure Brady’s suspension for deflategate was upheld because, in a nutshell, Goodell can do whatever he wants. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If Goodell imposes a harsher sentence,  the NFL will be sued in federal court.  If that happens,  Watson will be on the field all season. 
    I would rather see Watson sue, play this year and then be suspended next season. That way missing game checks would be sizable instead of the minuscule amounts they would be this year. The league allowing his contract with the Browns to be really low this year to lessen the amount he would lose during a suspension is shameful. 
    Agree.  
    The Browns are hot trash

    Your tears are nourishing. 
     
    🔥 🗑 
    Cock and balls,  please
    Sounds like a massage request from Watson….well except for the “please” part. 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
    Bingo.....this wasnt about getting laid. Any dummy with a lil dough can get some, nevermind a high profile rich athlete. Something aint right with this guy or the countless other celebs that thrive off the POWER dynamic. They feel they are untouchable and can do whatever....sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you dont. This guy was sloppy. Also READ what the judge said...Agreed it was ASSAULT .....


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
    I tend not to apply motives to people's behavior when there is zero evidence to support it.  This is completely conjecture. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
    I tend not to apply motives to people's behavior when there is zero evidence to support it.  This is completely conjecture. 
    Well yeah it's conjecture. It has to be. I can't get inside this guy's head. But there's research that suggests that many (not all, but many) sexual assailants do it for the reasons I mentioned. So that's my guess regarding Watson's behavior. What your guess? Why did your new hero have over sixty massage therapists and over twenty have accused him of sexual harassment or sexual assault? This isn't a courtroom, it's a message board. So feel free to speculate. Conjecture is a-okay here. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
    I tend not to apply motives to people's behavior when there is zero evidence to support it.  This is completely conjecture. 
    Well yeah it's conjecture. It has to be. I can't get inside this guy's head. But there's research that suggests that many (not all, but many) sexual assailants do it for the reasons I mentioned. So that's my guess regarding Watson's behavior. What your guess? Why did your new hero have over sixty massage therapists and over twenty have accused him of sexual harassment or sexual assault? This isn't a courtroom, it's a message board. So feel free to speculate. Conjecture is a-okay here. 
    Conjecture is a-ok, but everyone wants to eliminate someone's career based on their amateur psycho-analysis, lack of grand jury indictment and court settlements.  Sorry, I don't subscribe to that mindset regardless of the athlete.  I despise Big Ben, and he was accused (not convicted) of violent assault.  I never once thought he should be taken out of the league because of it.  

    What's my guess why he did it?  He probably has some sort of massage fetish.  It was cheap, easy and he got his share of strange from young women who weren't prostitutes.  Seems pretty simple to me.  
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    $ sure makes people act stupid

    this guy won a title @ Clemson, his story prior was nice ( Falcons Ball boy, believe warrick dunn helped his family)

    now this...regardless of is this legal or that, its shady as hell for a guy making this kind of $ and being a supposed LEADER of men, a city etc......hes a clown.

    Just go out and meet women, its not that hard. 

    Because its not about Sex...its about CONTROL & other disturbing shit.......
    When I was 26, it was actually about sex. 
    I think he's saying that most sexual assailants don't do it because they can't get laid (though I'm sure some do). They do it to control/manipulate the victim and treat them like an object or a toy. If Watson wanted sex, there's more than enough available high-end escorts out there he could've gone to. 
    I tend not to apply motives to people's behavior when there is zero evidence to support it.  This is completely conjecture. 
    Well yeah it's conjecture. It has to be. I can't get inside this guy's head. But there's research that suggests that many (not all, but many) sexual assailants do it for the reasons I mentioned. So that's my guess regarding Watson's behavior. What your guess? Why did your new hero have over sixty massage therapists and over twenty have accused him of sexual harassment or sexual assault? This isn't a courtroom, it's a message board. So feel free to speculate. Conjecture is a-okay here. 
    Conjecture is a-ok, but everyone wants to eliminate someone's career based on their amateur psycho-analysis, lack of grand jury indictment and court settlements.  Sorry, I don't subscribe to that mindset regardless of the athlete.  I despise Big Ben, and he was accused (not convicted) of violent assault.  I never once thought he should be taken out of the league because of it.  

    What's my guess why he did it?  He probably has some sort of massage fetish.  It was cheap, easy and he got his share of strange from young women who weren't prostitutes.  Seems pretty simple to me.  
    I agree he shouldn’t be kicked out of the league. I just can’t believe they gave him the biggest contract ever as if everything was normal. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    One time?  Yeah, ok, you can learn from that mistake.  60?  That's a deviant.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited August 2022
    One time?  Yeah, ok, you can learn from that mistake.  60?  That's a deviant.
    How many people learn from mistakes before they are pinched?  He probably thinks he didn't do anything wrong.  And did he?  Did he do something wrong by asking for sex or propositioning?  What are the specific accusations by the four women that the NFL used to make their case?  Did he force them, manhandle them, rape them?  Not that I have heard or read.  Is it criminal to ask a girl for a hummer?  Is that even 'morally' wrong?