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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Merkin Baller said:
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    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    Again, some of us have known for some time that the league is an old boys club run by duplicitous pieces of shit. 

    If you're just realizing that now... where have you been? 
    I don't like American football, or athletic contests of any sort.  They are just testosterone filled nonsense.  

    And btw, I do know and have always known. But if everyone here knows as well, then why are the comments only in one direction?  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    There's a reason the Browns never win anything, folks. 
    I'd like to point you to the 1950s and 60s. 
    What a time to be alive that was!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    There's a reason the Browns never win anything, folks. 
    I'd like to point you to the 1950s and 60s. 
    What a time to be alive that was!
    It was glorious.  I used to put on my best suit and hat, take the RTA down to the Stadium while jamming "Fly Me to the Moon" and "Mack the Knife" all the way down.  My son and I (he was 12 at the time) would smoke a whole pack of Pall Mall's on the RTA.  
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    you do realize the CBA was changed because people disliked that Goodell had all the power in handing out suspensions before. So people bitched about that so they changed it.  Then people got pissed that the new person didn't hand out enough of a suspension.  It's like some people just like to bitch about things.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    you do realize the CBA was changed because people disliked that Goodell had all the power in handing out suspensions before. So people bitched about that so they changed it.  Then people got pissed that the new person didn't hand out enough of a suspension.  It's like some people just like to bitch about things.
    I do understand but all it really did was add an extra layer into the process BEFORE Goodell has final call. Now the federal judge makes a decision, but the appeal goes to Goodell or his designated representative.  So in actuality it's no different than it was before, other than one more layer.  
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    you do realize the CBA was changed because people disliked that Goodell had all the power in handing out suspensions before. So people bitched about that so they changed it.  Then people got pissed that the new person didn't hand out enough of a suspension.  It's like some people just like to bitch about things.
    I do understand but all it really did was add an extra layer into the process BEFORE Goodell has final call. Now the federal judge makes a decision, but the appeal goes to Goodell or his designated representative.  So in actuality it's no different than it was before, other than one more layer.  
    Goodell wanted a full season.  they compromised for 11 games.   To me it's a shitty compromise.   He should have gotten at least a full year.  And I do agree the Texans should suffer some consequences for enabling Watson.  They still might.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    you do realize the CBA was changed because people disliked that Goodell had all the power in handing out suspensions before. So people bitched about that so they changed it.  Then people got pissed that the new person didn't hand out enough of a suspension.  It's like some people just like to bitch about things.
    I do understand but all it really did was add an extra layer into the process BEFORE Goodell has final call. Now the federal judge makes a decision, but the appeal goes to Goodell or his designated representative.  So in actuality it's no different than it was before, other than one more layer.  
    Goodell wanted a full season.  they compromised for 11 games.   To me it's a shitty compromise.   He should have gotten at least a full year.  And I do agree the Texans should suffer some consequences for enabling Watson.  They still might.
    Well you point out the irony here.  The man who is supposed to be the arbitrator wanted a full season.  Some CBA.  

    But I'm glad at least someone here understands that the Texans are just as accountable for the work environment issue, which is what this boils down to. 
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really  stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.

    and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in?  I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    other day dude says he feels for these women, pain he CAUSED

    today, maintains innocence....way to go.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    Ummm....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really  stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.

    and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in?  I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
    Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible.  Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated.  Did he put his dick on a girl?  Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.  

    Did he violate NFL standards?  Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail.  But you think what you want.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    Ummm....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


    So the Grand Jury was paid off?  
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?

    Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes.  And you guys are all on board with it.  

    Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
    Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished.  Seems about right. 

    Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves. 


    Welcome to the club, Browns fans. 
    Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.  
    Again, some of us have known for some time that the league is an old boys club run by duplicitous pieces of shit. 

    If you're just realizing that now... where have you been? 
    I don't like American football, or athletic contests of any sort.  They are just testosterone filled nonsense.  

    And btw, I do know and have always known. But if everyone here knows as well, then why are the comments only in one direction?  

    IDK, maybe it's racism like you said.

    Or maybe it's just sports fandom where 31 other teams and fanbases are the enemy. 



    Maybe a little bit of both, or neither, idk. 
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really  stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.

    and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in?  I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
    Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible.  Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated.  Did he put his dick on a girl?  Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.  

    Did he violate NFL standards?  Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail.  But you think what you want.  

    I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $

    Otherwise wtf my man


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really  stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.

    and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in?  I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
    Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible.  Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated.  Did he put his dick on a girl?  Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.  

    Did he violate NFL standards?  Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail.  But you think what you want.  

    I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $

    Otherwise wtf my man


    I believe in redemption.  Always have.  I also think the NFL has been screwing over certain players for a long time.  What Ray Rice did was horrible, but the punishment did not match the crime or the precedent.  I think CK got screwed, although now I think he's taking advantage of his situation.  

    But what I really don't like is overheated rhetoric.  So things like "kick out of the league forever" or "put him in jail" will always cause me to react the other way.  

    Also, I'm from Cleveland. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    Ummm....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


    So the Grand Jury was paid off?  
    Did I say that? Crojam implied that Watson's status as an NFL quarterback saved him here. He has millions of dollars and can afford the best lawyers money can buy. A regular Joe Schmoe without those resources, who's accused of the same thing, will likely end up in jail.
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    edited August 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really  stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.

    and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in?  I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
    Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible.  Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated.  Did he put his dick on a girl?  Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.  

    Did he violate NFL standards?  Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail.  But you think what you want.  

    I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $

    Otherwise wtf my man


    I believe in redemption.  Always have.  I also think the NFL has been screwing over certain players for a long time.  What Ray Rice did was horrible, but the punishment did not match the crime or the precedent.  I think CK got screwed, although now I think he's taking advantage of his situation.  

    But what I really don't like is overheated rhetoric.  So things like "kick out of the league forever" or "put him in jail" will always cause me to react the other way.  

    Also, I'm from Cleveland. 
    i also believe, IF any of these woman or ANYBODY makes accusations vs someone....they should PAY ALL LEGAL FEES, $$ for pain & suffering and also see the inside of a jail cell IF FOUND to be full of shit

    we have whats called due process...things need to play out. If i was accused and i had his resources, id fight like hell. Most of us DONT....once accused you have to FOLD otherwise risk further penalty & being Bankrupt

    I hardly think he was railroaded.....I understand the process DRAGs o, and hes already lost a year of his prime.....but man, keep fighting


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
    That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once.  So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist.   Is this right?  Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?

    I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime.  Is that illegal in your state?  In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work.  And that's not a crime!  Tell me about your state.  
    Ummm....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


    So the Grand Jury was paid off?  
    Did I say that? Crojam implied that Watson's status as an NFL quarterback saved him here. He has millions of dollars and can afford the best lawyers money can buy. A regular Joe Schmoe without those resources, who's accused of the same thing, will likely end up in jail.
    You didn't say anything, that's why I was asking.  

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