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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    Wobbie said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jameis winston signing as back up at the factory of sadness....

    some real "character guys" in the QB room...
     And forget that young people make mistakes.  Give me a fucking break. 
    So, you're dismissing Watson's exploits as a young dude making some mistakes?
    And BTW, I was talking about Winston.  Thought that was clear.  And Wobbie's stupid ass comment.  
    Wobbie's comment was "some real character guys in the QB room"
    That would include Watson.
    Right, disparaging Winston.  So my reply about youth was about Winston.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jameis winston signing as back up at the factory of sadness....

    some real "character guys" in the QB room...
     And forget that young people make mistakes.  Give me a fucking break. 
    So, you're dismissing Watson's exploits as a young dude making some mistakes?
    Are you saying what Watson did was worse than other player's in the league that have received second chances?  Cuz I can roll of some serious criminal shit where second chances were given.  Namely by the Niners and Cowboys, whose fans seem to be particularly high and mighty.  But if we talk about Watson, are we going to talk about Texans management who set him up in the hotel and wrote the NDA's for him?  That's cool right.. no reason they should get any grief for that.  That would be like punishing Jerry Jones or Kraft for their shit.  Can't have that.  
    Watson is by no means the only one with culpability in the sexual assault cases against him, but he's by far the most culpable. Why you would ever defend him is beyond me.
    Texans organization certainly also at fault, but not as much as the POS who perpetrated the crimes. But at least he was sufficiently punished with a $230M fully guaranteed contract.
    Exactly what sexual assault?  He was not found either guilty or culpable of sexual assault.  Nor was it criminally charged.  He was accused of sexual harassment and misconduct.  That's not assault and is a world of difference.  

    And I don't defend him, J'accuse the hypocrisy of this board.  And I also support our actual legal system, criminal and civil and the grand juries who have cleared him of any criminal charges.  
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,917
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jameis winston signing as back up at the factory of sadness....

    some real "character guys" in the QB room...
     And forget that young people make mistakes.  Give me a fucking break. 
    So, you're dismissing Watson's exploits as a young dude making some mistakes?
    Are you saying what Watson did was worse than other player's in the league that have received second chances?  Cuz I can roll of some serious criminal shit where second chances were given.  Namely by the Niners and Cowboys, whose fans seem to be particularly high and mighty.  But if we talk about Watson, are we going to talk about Texans management who set him up in the hotel and wrote the NDA's for him?  That's cool right.. no reason they should get any grief for that.  That would be like punishing Jerry Jones or Kraft for their shit.  Can't have that.  
    Watson is by no means the only one with culpability in the sexual assault cases against him, but he's by far the most culpable. Why you would ever defend him is beyond me.
    Texans organization certainly also at fault, but not as much as the POS who perpetrated the crimes. But at least he was sufficiently punished with a $230M fully guaranteed contract.
    J'accuse 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,573
    Damn, Steelers making some moves.
    Pickett to Philly in Friday and traded a pick for Justin Fields yesterday....

    Having watched Fields at OSU , I think he's a great fit for us.

    reporting is he isnt expected to compete for the starting job this year but learn from Wilson....
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    Surprised by the Stillers moves, for sure, and they really didn't give much up.  Pickett was a first rounder and all, but glad they moved on.  Still need a C and WR(s).  Don't know what to expect from the offense at all right now.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Vitalogensia said:
    Surprised by the Stillers moves, for sure, and they really didn't give much up.  Pickett was a first rounder and all, but glad they moved on.  Still need a C and WR(s).  Don't know what to expect from the offense at all right now.  
    4.5 million for two qbs is a steal.  Very shrewd. 
  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    mrussel1 said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    Surprised by the Stillers moves, for sure, and they really didn't give much up.  Pickett was a first rounder and all, but glad they moved on.  Still need a C and WR(s).  Don't know what to expect from the offense at all right now.  
    4.5 million for two qbs is a steal.  Very shrewd. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    mickeyrat said:
    Damn, Steelers making some moves.
    Pickett to Philly in Friday and traded a pick for Justin Fields yesterday....

    Having watched Fields at OSU , I think he's a great fit for us.

    reporting is he isnt expected to compete for the starting job this year but learn from Wilson....
    Justin Fields? Really?  Don't get your hopes up.  Thankfully he's going to a great organization that maybe able to make something of him.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,263
    Vitalogensia said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    Surprised by the Stillers moves, for sure, and they really didn't give much up.  Pickett was a first rounder and all, but glad they moved on.  Still need a C and WR(s).  Don't know what to expect from the offense at all right now.  
    4.5 million for two qbs is a steal.  Very shrewd. 
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    Ha.  I like that.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,597
    As they say these days, what are we doing here?


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    I am all for more kickoff returns...but why not just go back to what we were doing like ten years ago? They changed it due to injury concerns, but I, for the life of me, do not recall tons of injuries on those plays.

    They outlawed these hip drop tackles this week too.....lol

    How soon before they're all wearing flags?
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,597
    The Juggler said:
    I am all for more kickoff returns...but why not just go back to what we were doing like ten years ago? They changed it due to injury concerns, but I, for the life of me, do not recall tons of injuries on those plays.

    They outlawed these hip drop tackles this week too.....lol

    How soon before they're all wearing flags?
    I'd like to hear the ways of tackling that are permitted.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    I don't have any problems with the game being made safer.  You already have parents not letting their kids play.  I didn't let my son play.  If we want football to survive, then easy changes like this are welcomed.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    The Juggler said:
    I am all for more kickoff returns...but why not just go back to what we were doing like ten years ago? They changed it due to injury concerns, but I, for the life of me, do not recall tons of injuries on those plays.

    They outlawed these hip drop tackles this week too.....lol

    How soon before they're all wearing flags?
    I'd like to hear the ways of tackling that are permitted.
    I cannot imagine the confusion among players, fans, refs, etc etc etc whey they start calling these drop tackle penalties. 
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,172
    I agree with both of you ^^^^

    safer is good but the hip drop tackle could be an officiating nightmare. hell, they still haven’t decided what constitutes a “catch.”
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,263
    Wobbie said:
    I agree with both of you ^^^^

    safer is good but the hip drop tackle could be an officiating nightmare. hell, they still haven’t decided what constitutes a “catch.”💯 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Wobbie said:
    I agree with both of you ^^^^

    safer is good but the hip drop tackle could be an officiating nightmare. hell, they still haven’t decided what constitutes a “catch.”💯 
    I understand wanting to guard against concussions but it seems like they've gone too far with injuries in total. It's a violent sport to begin with. Taking the violence out of it, lessens the game to me and makes it less enjoyable. 

    This hip drop tackle thing has disaster written all over it. 

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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
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    What I don’t understand is why do the owners get to vote on rule changes but the NFLPA has no say?  The players really do suck at negotiating CBAs.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Glorified KC said:
    What I don’t understand is why do the owners get to vote on rule changes but the NFLPA has no say?  The players really do suck at negotiating CBAs.
    Is that true?  There is no player or union rep on competition or safety committees?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    mrussel1 said:
    Glorified KC said:
    What I don’t understand is why do the owners get to vote on rule changes but the NFLPA has no say?  The players really do suck at negotiating CBAs.
    Is that true?  There is no player or union rep on competition or safety committees?
    They might be on a committee but it's the owners who are voting for all the rule changes. 
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    mrussel1 said:
    Glorified KC said:
    What I don’t understand is why do the owners get to vote on rule changes but the NFLPA has no say?  The players really do suck at negotiating CBAs.
    Is that true?  There is no player or union rep on competition or safety committees?
    If I'm reading this right, their only say is in a survey.  They don't have any players or NFLPA as part of the Competition Committee or final vote.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    You’re never going to have a bunch of billionaires and members of one of the most exclusive clubs on the planet turning over control of the game/their business to the “rabble/players.” Safety be damned.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You’re never going to have a bunch of billionaires and members of one of the most exclusive clubs on the planet turning over control of the game/their business to the “rabble/players.” Safety be damned.

    Right can't have the "inmates running the prison" bull shit.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,044
    Diggs to Texans was kinda surprising. Houston is gonna be real good this season.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,263
    He sucked the back half of the season and cost them in that playoff loss, big time.  He used to be super.  Maybe this will be a wake up call.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    F Me In The Brain said:
    He sucked the back half of the season and cost them in that playoff loss, big time.  He used to be super.  Maybe this will be a wake up call.
    He has been a crybaby malcontent too.

    I think he will be happy in Houston and give them a good season before he finds some kind of slight to be upset about and vaguepost on social media

    The Bills look poised to try to trade up in the 1st for a WR

    This cap cleansing hurts.  They have cut a lot of older players.  Need to hit on some picks.  They should have a really good amount of $ to spend next offseason
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,573

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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    OJ Died
  • ZoSoTimZoSoTim Posts: 1,057
    CROJAM95 said:
    OJ Died
    Oh well. Hope he enjoys the warm weather where he’s headed. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Unfortunately he'll now never find the real killers. 
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