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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2021
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
    The one 70 yard run or whatever really changes the story on that


    Similarly, if you remove one other play, the N'Keal Harry "let me return this punt with my facemask" play, the Bills end up with a whopping 3 points. Thus, cherry picking a play to ignore to try and prove a point is worthless.
    my point isnt to imply that the Bills really won the game...  It is the rushing stats look a lot different if you remove a pretty huge outlier, and that gets ignored the morning after by all the pundits who paint a somewhat different picture than what really occurred.


    Its this narrative that the result was due to some sort of Belichick mastery of running the ball 46 times and getting first down after first down bleeding the clock, which didnt happen.  They still only scored 14 points, and their opponent had plenty of chances to win and kept shooting themselves in the foot.  I believe the Bills' average drive start was north of their 40 yard line

    I have immense respect and reverence for Belichick and think he is the greatest coach ever.  They won last night despite the offensive gameplan, not because of it.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
    The one 70 yard run or whatever really changes the story on that


    Similarly, if you remove one other play, the N'Keal Harry "let me return this punt with my facemask" play, the Bills end up with a whopping 3 points. Thus, cherry picking a play to ignore to try and prove a point is worthless.
    And the rest of Buffalo's points came as result of a drive that was extended by a phantom Unnecessary Roughness call on the sideline. 



    McDermott got embarrassed last night (and he knows it). 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Merkin Baller said:
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
    The one 70 yard run or whatever really changes the story on that


    Similarly, if you remove one other play, the N'Keal Harry "let me return this punt with my facemask" play, the Bills end up with a whopping 3 points. Thus, cherry picking a play to ignore to try and prove a point is worthless.
    And the rest of Buffalo's points came as result of a drive that was extended by a phantom Unnecessary Roughness call on the sideline. 



    McDermott got embarrassed last night (and he knows it). 
    To me, the genius of it is simply that they were willing to stick with it despite what Mayday is saying. Yeah they had that one big run that padded their overall stats. But their game plan was to grind it out no matter what. I think they knowingly left points off the board and did whatever they could to control the clock and just let their defense frustrate the Bills who were not willing to do the same thing despite the 40 mph winds. So many other teams abandon their plans when they get down or when the game gets tight. 

    Can you imagine what a Pats/Bucs Super Bowl would be like? lol 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    edited December 2021
    If I could remove one play from the Niners' game on Sunday (fake punt TD allowed) we would have kicked the winning FG as the clock bled out.

    :lol:
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    The Juggler said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Poncier said:
    MayDay10 said:
    The one 70 yard run or whatever really changes the story on that


    Similarly, if you remove one other play, the N'Keal Harry "let me return this punt with my facemask" play, the Bills end up with a whopping 3 points. Thus, cherry picking a play to ignore to try and prove a point is worthless.
    And the rest of Buffalo's points came as result of a drive that was extended by a phantom Unnecessary Roughness call on the sideline. 



    McDermott got embarrassed last night (and he knows it). 
    To me, the genius of it is simply that they were willing to stick with it despite what Mayday is saying. Yeah they had that one big run that padded their overall stats. But their game plan was to grind it out no matter what. I think they knowingly left points off the board and did whatever they could to control the clock and just let their defense frustrate the Bills who were not willing to do the same thing despite the 40 mph winds. So many other teams abandon their plans when they get down or when the game gets tight. 

    Can you imagine what a Pats/Bucs Super Bowl would be like? lol 
    You know the NFL wants that SB to happen. Look for questionable officiating throughout the playoffs if it looks possible, particularly in any close games.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2021
    I'm not saying that I wish a play were removed to declare buffalo the winner or anything like that.  The play happened.  It's not a "my team would have won if" conversation

    It's just the game was not the patriots bleeding the clock and running at will.  They only had 2 drives more than 5 plays and time of possession was equal.  Their defense played great and buffalo coaching and some drops shot themselves in the foot.

    If Knox or doggs hangs onto a td catch which was inches away, it would be a 180 degree turn on the narrative and people would be criticizing the running and media would be questioning if belichick trusts Jones to pass, etc.  

    It's an interesting game.  There is a big debate here locally about indoor vs outdoor for the new stadium.  I prefer outdoor and variability.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    mcdermott poked the bear, as well. the rematch should be interesting.
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,858
    F Me In The Brain said:
    If I could remove one play from the Niners' game on Sunday (fake punt TD allowed) we would have kicked the winning FG as the clock bled out.

    :lol:
    Yep.  :|
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,062
    RIP Demaryius Thomas


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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    Man that sucks.  
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    eeriepadave said:
    RIP Demaryius Thomas


    Wow that's just awful.

    RIP.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
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    Meltdown99 said:
    Mike Garafolo on Twitter: "This is just… I have no words for this. https://t.co/UlsW82laoK" / Twitter

    LMFAO @ Meyer

    Yeah…he’s not going to last long. 

    That kind of nonsense can work in college but there are zero players in the nfl that will respond to that positively 
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    Guy has always been an obvious redass.
    Now I'm thinking the Heart Issues thing was always a scam.  He has many other issues.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    A truly bad person 
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    I kinda root for the Bills because of the “Josh Allen played for one of the ten colleges I root for” angle….that, and the “I hate belichick” angle….but they are a clown show, right now. wha happened?????
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    Yay!! another week of the refs fucking a team so Brady can win.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Yeah, that was bad.  A string of 4-5 calls/no calls that essentially determined the outcome
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
    Why watch the NFL if you think the games are rigged?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
    Dallas in the NFC Championship game?
    Dude, whatever you're smoking has transported your brain back to 1995.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
    Why watch the NFL if you think the games are rigged?
    Rigged? Just a desired outcome on occasion. Why would you believe a $12-$16 billion industry owned by 32 individual organizations would be on the up and up?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,028
    Poncier said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
    Dallas in the NFC Championship game?
    Dude, whatever you're smoking has transported your brain back to 1995.
    Cards are posers and soft. And my brain has been transported back to the 70s. You know, back when America was great and the Cowboys were America’s team?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,602
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Poncier said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You know the NFL wants to see a Brady/BB super bowl and me thinks we will. With Dallas getting porked by the officiating in the NFC championship game. 
    Dallas in the NFC Championship game?
    Dude, whatever you're smoking has transported your brain back to 1995.
    Cards are posers and soft. And my brain has been transported back to the 70s. You know, back when America was great and the Cowboys were America’s team?

    when they got beat twice by THE  STEELERS in the SB....
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    eeriepadave said:
    RIP Demaryius Thomas


    Yeah I meant to write about this.  I really liked him on the Broncos.  Sucks that he was so damn young.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Well the Cowboys lived up to the guaranteed win.  Good for them.

    Watching Josh Allen and Brady play is pretty amazing.  Allen is so damn fast.

    Rodgers still owns the Breas apparently, lol.

    Go Broncos.  Fugazi win over the Lions but still a win.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Brady vs New England would be a great Super Bowl and a Disney Movie 🍿.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    edited December 2021
    Meltdown99 said:
    Brady vs New England would be a great Super Bowl and a Disney Movie 🍿.
    Sports commentators have already suggested that.

    I don't want it as it might be low scoring.  I want action in the games.
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