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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    norm said:

    "Super Bowl 50 Golden Team"

    Offense
    QB Joe Montana
    RB Franco Harris
    RB Emmitt Smith
    WR Jerry Rice
    WR Lynn Swann
    TE Jay Novacek
    OT Art Shell
    OT Forrest Gregg
    OG Gene Upshaw
    OG Larry Allen
    C Mike Webster

    Defense
    DE Reggie White
    DE Charles Haley
    DL Joe Greene
    DL Randy White
    OLB Lawrence Taylor
    OLB Jack Ham
    ILB Jack Lambert
    ILB Ray Lewis
    CB Mel Blount
    CB Deion Sanders
    S Ronnie Lott
    S Jake Scott

    Specialists
    K Adam Vinatieri
    PR/KR Desmond Howard
    P Ray Guy

    Coach
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  • pjhawks
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    Poncier said:

    Amongst the Ani said:

    They had this debate in AZ after the Panthers crushed the Cards. Using record as a qualifier and only after league went to 16 game schedule as part of the debate. 2 teams have gone 18-1 while winning a super bowl (84 49ers and 85 Bears). Pats don't count since they lost the big one that 18-1 year. The consesus is Panthers are 3rd. That Bears team probably goes first with the 49ers a close second. Both had all time greats on them which elevates their status. 49ers had Montana and Lott (Rice was drafted later) and Bears had Payton and the best defense ever. This Carolina team is missing those all timers to compete with the other 2.

    Though I think you could argue for a couple of other teams that didn't go 18-1 being better all time than this year's Panthers...

    78 Steelers
    88 49ers
    91 Redskins
    03 Patriots
    04 Patriots

    All 17-2, arguable they may have played tougher competition, but history will bear that out.

    what about the Cowboys with Aiken, Smith and Irvin? probably 1992 was their best team and I think better than this Carolina team.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,639

    ESPN’s Greatest Players in Super Bowl History

    10. QB Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XXIV, XXIX

    9. QB Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams/Arizona Cardinals, Super Bowls: XXXIV, XXXVI, XLIII

    8. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants, Super Bowls: XLII, XLVI

    7. QB Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowls: IX, X, XIII, XIV

    6. QB John Elway, Denver Broncos, Super Bowls: XXI, XXII, XXIV, XXXII, XXXIII

    5. RB Emmitt Smith, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    4. WR Jerry Rice, San Francisco 49ers/Oakland Raiders, Super Bowls: XXIII, XXIV, XXIX, XXXVII

    3. QB Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV

    2. QB Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    1. QB Tom Brady, New England Patriots, Super Bowls: XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII, XLVI, XLIX
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Did Steve Young relieve Montana in garbage time of SB XXIV? He only has the one as a starter. That feels like a reach.

    First reaction is to put Eli higher but looking at who is in front of him I'm not sure how or where.

    Would probably flip Montana and Aikman.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    JimmyV said:

    Did Steve Young relieve Montana in garbage time of SB XXIV? He only has the one as a starter. That feels like a reach.

    He was 2 for 3 for 20 yards and had 6 rushing yards. Probably fell just short of Montana in MVP voting for the game.
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  • Amongst the Ani
    Amongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Montana has the late comeback wins that Aikmen doesn't have. I have no issue with Aikmen but also believe Montana was higher.

    I also don't think you can compare these older players and teams to new teams. No free agency back then but also the league was much more brutal. Could you imagine Brady with all his bitching to the refs everytime he gets touched playing in Lawrence Taylor's and Charles Haley's era? Haley wanted to kill you on every snap. Taylor would have snapped Brady in half. If Montana played in todays game he would have been able to play until he was 40 like Manning/Brady since he wouldn't have defenders breaking his back like he did.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,005
    igotid88 said:


    ESPN’s Greatest Players in Super Bowl History

    10. QB Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XXIV, XXIX

    9. QB Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams/Arizona Cardinals, Super Bowls: XXXIV, XXXVI, XLIII

    8. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants, Super Bowls: XLII, XLVI

    7. QB Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowls: IX, X, XIII, XIV

    6. QB John Elway, Denver Broncos, Super Bowls: XXI, XXII, XXIV, XXXII, XXXIII

    5. RB Emmitt Smith, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    4. WR Jerry Rice, San Francisco 49ers/Oakland Raiders, Super Bowls: XXIII, XXIV, XXIX, XXXVII

    3. QB Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV

    2. QB Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    1. QB Tom Brady, New England Patriots, Super Bowls: XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII, XLVI, XLIX

    I would go:

    1. Montana
    2. Brady
    3. Bradshaw
    4. Rice
    5. Smith
    6. Aikman
    7. Eli
    8. Elway

    And I feel like there are two better options for 9 and 10
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    SVRDhand13 said:

    igotid88 said:


    ESPN’s Greatest Players in Super Bowl History

    10. QB Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XXIV, XXIX

    9. QB Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams/Arizona Cardinals, Super Bowls: XXXIV, XXXVI, XLIII

    8. QB Eli Manning, New York Giants, Super Bowls: XLII, XLVI

    7. QB Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers, Super Bowls: IX, X, XIII, XIV

    6. QB John Elway, Denver Broncos, Super Bowls: XXI, XXII, XXIV, XXXII, XXXIII

    5. RB Emmitt Smith, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    4. WR Jerry Rice, San Francisco 49ers/Oakland Raiders, Super Bowls: XXIII, XXIV, XXIX, XXXVII

    3. QB Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers, Super Bowls: XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV

    2. QB Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowls: XXVII, XXVIII, XXX

    1. QB Tom Brady, New England Patriots, Super Bowls: XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLII, XLVI, XLIX



    And I feel like there are two better options for 9 and 10
    Starr, Staubach, Griese and Plunkett all won 2, certainly should put them ahead of Warner and Young.
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  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730

    Hey, Brady haters

    Did ya hear what goodell did with all the data collected regarding air pressure of game balls during the season?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-s-missing-data-on-air-pressure-is-another-black-eye-in-deflate-gate-saga-025852568.html
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  • ed243421
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    this is from last July

    It's what the NFL said it was going to do with football air pressure data collected this past season

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-nfl-testing-footballs-20150727-story.html
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,306
    Did Goodell accidentally put the data in the Spygate tape incinerator?
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  • ed243421
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    Typical hater deflection

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  • Jason P
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    ed243421 said:

    Typical hater deflection

    Deflation, not deflection!

    Come on, man

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  • Amongst the Ani
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    Hahahahahaha. Brady looks like such an idiot
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  • mickeyrat
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    Rams leaving St Louis with $144 million in debt on the stadium.

    Stay Classy NFL owners.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And did you notice how the NFL announced before the AFC championship game that they were going to release the report/findings but as soon as the Patriots lost, the story and the release of the information, well, it just kind of went away. Yea, right, Roger Goodell and the NFL, neutral arbitrators of the truth.

    Nothing like a contrived controversy for the 2 weeks leading up to the super bowl to potentially influence the outcome so you don't have to hand the trophy to the GOAT.
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  • Cliffy6745
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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14720378/johnny-manziel-dad-says-quarterback-refused-enter-rehab-needs-help

    Sad stuff
  • pjhawks
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    Cliffy6745 said:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14720378/johnny-manziel-dad-says-quarterback-refused-enter-rehab-needs-help

    Sad stuff

    sounds like he is even worse shape than i would have thought. let's hope he doesn't hurt himself or worse someone else.

    as for the Super Bowl - this one has no juice for me. No excitement for this game at all. I think it's going to be boring and Carolina wins fairly easily.
  • The Juggler
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    I think Denver keeps it closing a low scoring affair.
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  • buck502000
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    Cam Newton is a clown - the NFL made sure the Panthers lost a game this year - no undefeated season - this will be Peyton Manning's last game - so you think the NFL let him not go out on top?

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