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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    except no Eagle fan has claimed it didn't happen. Pats fans love to claim neither Bellichick nor Brady have cheated...yet the organization was penalized by the league of both.  anyway don't you guys have a game to be concerned about?
    See now you're arguing apple & oranges.
    My Vick comment was in response to your Aaron Hernandez comment.
    You made the comment basically inferring the Pats drafted him knowing he was a murderer. this happened after he was on the team, you don't criticize the Panthers for drafting Rae Carruth. The difference is the Eagles signed Vick knowing of his criminal activity cause he just got out of prison. So skip the moral outrage. Every team, including and possibly most notably yours (remember they traded for Michael Bennett just after he beat up an old woman at the Super Bowl) will turn a blind eye to some player off field issues to gain an advantage on field.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    except no Eagle fan has claimed it didn't happen. Pats fans love to claim neither Bellichick nor Brady have cheated...yet the organization was penalized by the league of both.  anyway don't you guys have a game to be concerned about?
    See now you're arguing apple & oranges.
    My Vick comment was in response to your Aaron Hernandez comment.
    You made the comment basically inferring the Pats drafted him knowing he was a murderer. this happened after he was on the team, you don't criticize the Panthers for drafting Rae Carruth. The difference is the Eagles signed Vick knowing of his criminal activity cause he just got out of prison. So skip the moral outrage. Every team, including and possibly most notably yours (remember they traded for Michael Bennett just after he beat up an old woman at the Super Bowl) will turn a blind eye to some player off field issues to gain an advantage on field.
    the Aaron Hernandez comment was in jest.  It was made because Patriots fans are the only people in the world who can't admit they were caught cheating, so as a joke i inferred you all probably think Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer even though he was caught.  Multiple Pats fans are on here claiming they weren't cheating or it didn't happen.The league multiple times disagrees. as does the rest of the world. Brady is the greatest QB of all time...and was suspended 4 games for cheating. that's not an opinion.  Michael Vick was a dog killer and a felon and was suspended for it.  both are clear as day yet only one side is claiming the truth is not the truth.  
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    edited February 2019
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    That same guy was also a proponent of dropping the puppy killer back to pass 70% of the time.....couldn't resist, sorry! haha
    At least I don't claim the Pats win because of their running backs.  Yes people he claimed the Pats were winning a few years ago because of Steven Ridley.
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  • pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    except no Eagle fan has claimed it didn't happen. Pats fans love to claim neither Bellichick nor Brady have cheated...yet the organization was penalized by the league of both.  anyway don't you guys have a game to be concerned about?
    See now you're arguing apple & oranges.
    My Vick comment was in response to your Aaron Hernandez comment.
    You made the comment basically inferring the Pats drafted him knowing he was a murderer. this happened after he was on the team, you don't criticize the Panthers for drafting Rae Carruth. The difference is the Eagles signed Vick knowing of his criminal activity cause he just got out of prison. So skip the moral outrage. Every team, including and possibly most notably yours (remember they traded for Michael Bennett just after he beat up an old woman at the Super Bowl) will turn a blind eye to some player off field issues to gain an advantage on field.
    the Aaron Hernandez comment was in jest.  It was made because Patriots fans are the only people in the world who can't admit they were caught cheating, so as a joke i inferred you all probably think Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer even though he was caught.  Multiple Pats fans are on here claiming they weren't cheating or it didn't happen.The league multiple times disagrees. as does the rest of the world. Brady is the greatest QB of all time...and was suspended 4 games for cheating. that's not an opinion.  Michael Vick was a dog killer and a felon and was suspended for it.  both are clear as day yet only one side is claiming the truth is not the truth.  
    If the NFL "investigations" were presented in a court of law before a jury, they would have been acquitted, every time. The NFL caved to a bunch of whiney ass owners, Irsay being the whiniest, who are tired of being left out of the winner's circle, and the NFL is desperately trying to spread the wealth in an effort to maintain fan bases and interest. Watch the officiating closely on Sunday. "The league?" You might as well say "the cartel."
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  • pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    That same guy was also a proponent of dropping the puppy killer back to pass 70% of the time.....couldn't resist, sorry! haha
    At least I don't claim the Pats win because of their running backs.  Yes people he claimed the Pats were winning a few years ago because of Steven Ridley.
    But you have to admit that they are much more dangerous with a mediocre to strong running game, yes?
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    mace1229 said: loo mo
    g under p said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    except no Eagle fan has claimed it didn't happen. Pats fans love to claim neither Bellichick nor Brady have cheated...yet the organization was penalized by the league of both.  anyway don't you guys have a game to be concerned about?
    As a fan since '71 I've never said or even think the breaking of the rules didn't happen. It did happen I just don't think the Patriots gained any advantage in what they did. The price is being paid in that they will forever be called cheaters regardless of what evidence may say otherwise. So yes continue to call the Patriots cheaters of the NFL and have their championships voided.

    Not concerned about the game, I'm confident the Patriots will win this game.

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    Not gaining an advantage doesn't make you not a cheater. It just makes you a bad cheater.
    Never said the Patriots did not cheat whether it was to gain an advantage or not. They broke the rule therefore it must be a cheating culture up there in New England. I can understand the disdain towards the Patriots especially since they win every now and then. If they were losers most of the time their cheating would probably NOT runb non fans the wrong way.

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    except no Eagle fan has claimed it didn't happen. Pats fans love to claim neither Bellichick nor Brady have cheated...yet the organization was penalized by the league of both.  anyway don't you guys have a game to be concerned about?
    See now you're arguing apple & oranges.
    My Vick comment was in response to your Aaron Hernandez comment.
    You made the comment basically inferring the Pats drafted him knowing he was a murderer. this happened after he was on the team, you don't criticize the Panthers for drafting Rae Carruth. The difference is the Eagles signed Vick knowing of his criminal activity cause he just got out of prison. So skip the moral outrage. Every team, including and possibly most notably yours (remember they traded for Michael Bennett just after he beat up an old woman at the Super Bowl) will turn a blind eye to some player off field issues to gain an advantage on field.
    the Aaron Hernandez comment was in jest.  It was made because Patriots fans are the only people in the world who can't admit they were caught cheating, so as a joke i inferred you all probably think Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer even though he was caught.  Multiple Pats fans are on here claiming they weren't cheating or it didn't happen.The league multiple times disagrees. as does the rest of the world. Brady is the greatest QB of all time...and was suspended 4 games for cheating. that's not an opinion.  Michael Vick was a dog killer and a felon and was suspended for it.  both are clear as day yet only one side is claiming the truth is not the truth.  
    If the NFL "investigations" were presented in a court of law before a jury, they would have been acquitted, every time. The NFL caved to a bunch of whiney ass owners, Irsay being the whiniest, who are tired of being left out of the winner's circle, and the NFL is desperately trying to spread the wealth in an effort to maintain fan bases and interest. Watch the officiating closely on Sunday. "The league?" You might as well say "the cartel."
    Yea and for the AFC Championship games Pats fans were up in arms before the game because the ref was the same guy as the deflate gate game. and they ended up getting the benefit on a few 50-50 calls/challenges...so yea it was a giant conspiracy against the Pats then too.  just stop.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited February 2019
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok
    Says the guy who is a fan of the team who signed Vick after he was convicted of killing sweet innocent puppies
    That same guy was also a proponent of dropping the puppy killer back to pass 70% of the time.....couldn't resist, sorry! haha
    At least I don't claim the Pats win because of their running backs.  Yes people he claimed the Pats were winning a few years ago because of Steven Ridley.
    Cute!
    You get exposed in every argument you've ever partook in. It's uncanny.

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  • Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I don't know if it's a sign I'm getting older or that no one really cares about this matchup, but I have not heard a single person bring up the Super Bowl in conversation and who do you think will win and plans for getting together this entire week.  Not one person.  Usually a few people send out the square where you can bet $5 on the final score and I haven't even seen those.  I can only deduce is that most are tired of watching the Pats and no one knows / cares about the LA Rams. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    Jason P said:
    I don't know if it's a sign I'm getting older or that no one really cares about this matchup, but I have not heard a single person bring up the Super Bowl in conversation and who do you think will win and plans for getting together this entire week.  Not one person.  Usually a few people send out the square where you can bet $5 on the final score and I haven't even seen those.  I can only deduce is that most are tired of watching the Pats and no one knows / cares about the LA Rams. 
    This will be the first super bowl I don't watch in probably 30 years. Partially for that reason right there. Decided to go skiing instead, heard the slopes are empty in SB Sunday. Lets hope some are actually watching it then.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Jason P said:
    I don't know if it's a sign I'm getting older or that no one really cares about this matchup, but I have not heard a single person bring up the Super Bowl in conversation and who do you think will win and plans for getting together this entire week.  Not one person.  Usually a few people send out the square where you can bet $5 on the final score and I haven't even seen those.  I can only deduce is that most are tired of watching the Pats and no one knows / cares about the LA Rams. 
    As opposed to the daily interactions of one person, I think a better way to gauge the interest is to look at television ratings which will be astronomic given these two television markets. 

    Yeah, I'm not fired up for it either, but I will be watching it with the same people I always watch the super bowl with. 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE

    get a life, kyle.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Wobbie said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE

    get a life, kyle.
    Like Rote or Wrote?
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
    If only the Patriots coaching staff knew what they were doing they could’ve won more than the five Super Bowls they’ve already accumulated. 
    Well they have lost three times as favorites. No other coach has done that. Oh and again it’s brady. 15 games under .500 before Brady became starter. Not that you think that stat matters.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,050
    edited February 2019
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
    If only the Patriots coaching staff knew what they were doing they could’ve won more than the five Super Bowls they’ve already accumulated. 
    Well they have lost three times as favorites. No other coach has done that. Oh and again it’s brady. 15 games under .500 before Brady became starter. Not that you think that stat matters.
    Eagles fan? Hahahahahahaha, wait another 53 years. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    buffalo lost 4 in a row. Must be great to be Kelly? Elway lost 3. He’s great too. But ahhhhhh, you know, TB sucks too.
     No. Credibility.                                           
     
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
    If only the Patriots coaching staff knew what they were doing they could’ve won more than the five Super Bowls they’ve already accumulated. 
    Well they have lost three times as favorites. No other coach has done that. Oh and again it’s brady. 15 games under .500 before Brady became starter. Not that you think that stat matters.
    If only they’d listened to you, perhaps they would’ve broken their own record for Super Bowl wins and appearances. What are they thinking?!?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jason P said:
    I don't know if it's a sign I'm getting older or that no one really cares about this matchup, but I have not heard a single person bring up the Super Bowl in conversation and who do you think will win and plans for getting together this entire week.  Not one person.  Usually a few people send out the square where you can bet $5 on the final score and I haven't even seen those.  I can only deduce is that most are tired of watching the Pats and no one knows / cares about the LA Rams. 
    As opposed to the daily interactions of one person, I think a better way to gauge the interest is to look at television ratings which will be astronomic given these two television markets. 

    Yeah, I'm not fired up for it either, but I will be watching it with the same people I always watch the super bowl with. 
    Hey, I know more then 1 person!  At least 3 or 4, maybe. 

    I think most in LA will be more fired up over the halftime show. I think the same amount of people in LA will tune in for the SB as they would have if the Rams were still in the Midwest. 
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
    If only the Patriots coaching staff knew what they were doing they could’ve won more than the five Super Bowls they’ve already accumulated. 
    Well they have lost three times as favorites. No other coach has done that. Oh and again it’s brady. 15 games under .500 before Brady became starter. Not that you think that stat matters.
    Eagles fan? Hahahahahahaha, wait another 53 years. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    buffalo lost 4 in a row. Must be great to be Kelly? Elway lost 3. He’s great too. But ahhhhhh, you know, TB sucks too.
     No. Credibility.                                           
     
    Good reading comprehension. Never said anything negative about brady’s on field production.  In fact if you could actually read you will see I think the pats win far more because of Brady than the coach. If you need help reading this just ask we can get someone to read it for ya 😎
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,050
    edited February 2019
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Of the Patriots' nine Super Bowl appearances, here's their pass/run ratio in the season leading up to them. Seems pretty balanced and only comes close to 60/40 twice. Yea, but throw the ball 80% of the time. Just stop.

    Year pass att. run att. pass % run % SB Outcome
    2001 482 473 50.4 49.5 W
    2003 537 473 53.1 46.8 W
    2004 485 524 48.0 51.9 W
    2007* 586 451 56.5 43.4 L
    2011** 612 438 58.2 41.7 L
    2014 609 438 58.1 41.8 W
    2016 550 482 53.2 46.7 W
    2017 587 448 56.7 43.2 L
    2018 574 478 54.5 45.4  
    * Randy Moss on the roster
    ** No 1,000 yard rusher and Hernandez listed as an RB/TE
    as an opponent 100% of the time i want the pats running the ball instead of in Brady's hands for a pass.  
    If only the Patriots coaching staff knew what they were doing they could’ve won more than the five Super Bowls they’ve already accumulated. 
    Well they have lost three times as favorites. No other coach has done that. Oh and again it’s brady. 15 games under .500 before Brady became starter. Not that you think that stat matters.
    Eagles fan? Hahahahahahaha, wait another 53 years. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.

    buffalo lost 4 in a row. Must be great to be Kelly? Elway lost 3. He’s great too. But ahhhhhh, you know, TB sucks too.
     No. Credibility.                                           
     
    Good reading comprehension. Never said anything negative about brady’s on field production.  In fact if you could actually read you will see I think the pats win far more because of Brady than the coach. If you need help reading this just ask we can get someone to read it for ya 😎
    Except the Patriots went 11-5 when Brady was out for the season and 3-1 when he served his suspension. But I guess that makes Marv Levy and Dan Reeves shitty coaches.    
                                                                                                
     
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,928
    Just got my squares numbers and nailed the dreaded 5, 5.
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  • Poncier said:
    Just got my squares numbers and nailed the dreaded 5, 5.

    No way!

    hahahahhaha

    I'll pull for ya!

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  • Poncier said:
    Just got my squares numbers and nailed the dreaded 5, 5.
    I don't join any pool that doesn't change numbers just for that reason.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    igotid88 said:
    Tony G. the only real star. FB HOF is pretty shaky.

    MLB HOF is a joke, too.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    Poncier said:
    Just got my squares numbers and nailed the dreaded 5, 5.
    cuz you fuck with me endlessly.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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