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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude
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  • igotid88
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    The Juggler wrote: »
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    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »
    Who watches tv just for commercials. What a game. What a finish. Great ending to a weird season.

    the majority of people who watch the super bowl watch for the commercials and halftime performer

    The ratings wouldn't be much different. Yesterday is like a national holiday.

    yea because all the parties and stuff. But not everyone is interested in the game itself.

    Well earlier you said the ratings would be lower, now you say they wouldn't be.

    Are you more interested in the commercials?

    I didn't say they wouldn't be. But it's understandable why they're high. Most are there to be with friends or the commercials or something other than the game. There aren't 100 million Patriots fans.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    I disagree. They're a little similar in the "holy shit, did that really just happen?" factor. But Tyree's catch was a great play. He caught a pass with a guy hanging all over him. People talk about it like he had stick-um on his helmet. He didn't. He just out-muscled Rodney Harrison. Last night's play was a lucky ricochet.
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  • igotid88
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    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    If it was Brady you would say different. And it wasn't about the throw, which was the only place he could have thrown it. But the catch was more smart than luck. If you want to say Eli getting out of the potential sack is lucky,fine.
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  • The Juggler
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    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    I disagree. They're a little similar in the "holy shit, did that really just happen?" factor. But Tyree's catch was a great play. He caught a pass with a guy hanging all over him. People talk about it like he had stick-um on his helmet. He didn't. He just out-muscled Rodney Harrison. Last night's play was a lucky ricochet.

    I agree that he out muscled Harrison...but he used his helmet to hold it! And I think the whole play itself had a certain amount of luck involved. Eli was dead in the water in the pocket. He makes a miraculous escape to elude a sack and heaves it up to Tyree. Eli is not necessarily known as Mr Elusive in the pocket. And of course both came in the waning moments of the 4th with the game on the line. I think if Seattle won, those two plays would be linked together forever.

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  • The Juggler
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    edited February 2015
    igotid88 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »
    Who watches tv just for commercials. What a game. What a finish. Great ending to a weird season.

    the majority of people who watch the super bowl watch for the commercials and halftime performer

    The ratings wouldn't be much different. Yesterday is like a national holiday.

    yea because all the parties and stuff. But not everyone is interested in the game itself.

    Well earlier you said the ratings would be lower, now you say they wouldn't be.

    Are you more interested in the commercials?

    I didn't say they wouldn't be. But it's understandable why they're high. Most are there to be with friends or the commercials or something other than the game. There aren't 100 million Patriots fans.

    You said they would be "much lower" if people knew they could watch the commercials prior to the game. That's ridiculous. People are attending Super Bowl parties or watching the Super Bowl....because of the game and everything else that goes along with it. Of course there not 100 million Pats or Giants or Seahawks fans, but most people have $ on the game in some shape or form so they're rooting for one team or the other for sure.

    If it was more about the commercials and halftime show, the ratings would plummet in the 2nd half.
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  • Jason P
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    Johnny Football is entering rehab. Hopefully he gets the help he needs and is actually seeking it.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    The Juggler wrote: »
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    I disagree. They're a little similar in the "holy shit, did that really just happen?" factor. But Tyree's catch was a great play. He caught a pass with a guy hanging all over him. People talk about it like he had stick-um on his helmet. He didn't. He just out-muscled Rodney Harrison. Last night's play was a lucky ricochet.

    I agree that he out muscled Harrison...but he used his helmet to hold it! And I think the whole play itself had a certain amount of luck involved. Eli was dead in the water in the pocket. He makes a miraculous escape to elude a sack and heaves it up to Tyree. Eli is not necessarily known as Mr Elusive in the pocket. And of course both came in the waning moments of the 4th with the game on the line. I think if Seattle won, those two plays would be linked together forever.

    I agree that they'd be linked together. Hell, the Tyree catch is linked with Manningham catch when the there's nothing at all lucky about the Manningham one. It was just Eli making one of the great throws of all-time. But as for Tyree, I don't get why you say "he used his helmet to hold it." That's all he could have done. And that's harder than simply using your hands. I dunno. I just don't think anything about it was lucky on Tyree's end. Even Eli's escape wasn't lucky. Trust me, I know he's not Mr. Elusive. But in the biggest situations, shouldn't making plays you don't normally make be complimented instead of being dismissed as lucky? I think so.

    One thing though....there did appear to be some offensive holds by the Giants on that play that weren't called. So if I'm gonna concede anything about that play as being "lucky", that's what I'll concede. But the worst are the people that say Eli should have been called "down in the grasp." FUCK THAT. Tackle the man. But yeah....there might have been some holds.
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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
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    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    If it was Brady you would say different. And it wasn't about the throw, which was the only place he could have thrown it. But the catch was more smart than luck. If you want to say Eli getting out of the potential sack is lucky,fine.

    I'm talking about the whole play in general, yes to your last sentence. And I'm obviously an Eagles fan so your first sentence is null and void. I have no bias here.
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    At least one Seahawk is thinking what I had passing thoughts about last night: that the final playcall was born out of Carroll preferring Wilson make the hero play over Lynch:

    http://deadspin.com/anonymous-seahawk-blames-final-play-call-on-anti-lynch-1683218259

    Knowing Pete's ways from the years of scrutinizing everything he did while @ USC I strongly disagree with this speculation. No way to prove it but I dont think he made that call, I think he was covering for his OC. Even if he did make the final play call, I dont believe him to be the type of man who would risk the game on trying to stoke the ego or public persona of one player over another. We called him Big Balls Pete because he loved to go for it...look at what he did in the first half going for the TD and getting it....I just dont think he would look past what he felt was the best option to go to another good option to stand up Wilson.
    Fully understand the players being disappointed and upset but this seems like a stretch.
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  • Last-12-Exit
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    But there are 100 million nfl fans.
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    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    I disagree. They're a little similar in the "holy shit, did that really just happen?" factor. But Tyree's catch was a great play. He caught a pass with a guy hanging all over him. People talk about it like he had stick-um on his helmet. He didn't. He just out-muscled Rodney Harrison. Last night's play was a lucky ricochet.

    I agree that he out muscled Harrison...but he used his helmet to hold it! And I think the whole play itself had a certain amount of luck involved. Eli was dead in the water in the pocket. He makes a miraculous escape to elude a sack and heaves it up to Tyree. Eli is not necessarily known as Mr Elusive in the pocket. And of course both came in the waning moments of the 4th with the game on the line. I think if Seattle won, those two plays would be linked together forever.

    I agree that they'd be linked together. Hell, the Tyree catch is linked with Manningham catch when the there's nothing at all lucky about the Manningham one. It was just Eli making one of the great throws of all-time. But as for Tyree, I don't get why you say "he used his helmet to hold it." That's all he could have done. And that's harder than simply using your hands. I dunno. I just don't think anything about it was lucky on Tyree's end. Even Eli's escape wasn't lucky. Trust me, I know he's not Mr. Elusive. But in the biggest situations, shouldn't making plays you don't normally make be complimented instead of being dismissed as lucky? I think so.

    One thing though....there did appear to be some offensive holds by the Giants on that play that weren't called. So if I'm gonna concede anything about that play as being "lucky", that's what I'll concede. But the worst are the people that say Eli should have been called "down in the grasp." FUCK THAT. Tackle the man. But yeah....there might have been some holds.

    Dude, the juggler may be right. EVERYTHING about Eli/David Tyree was lucky.
  • SatansFuton
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    Jason P wrote: »
    Johnny Football is entering rehab. Hopefully he gets the help he needs and is actually seeking it.

    I think his problem is more of an attitude issue than addiction, but it can't hurt.

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    edited February 2015
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    The Juggler wrote: »
    igotid88 wrote: »
    marjen wrote: »
    So I had this crazy dream last night, that David Tyree made this crazy catch for the Seahawks with a minute left in the game and then the Seahawks tried to throw the ball from the 1 yd line even though they had Lynch in the backfield? Wait something along those lines actually happened?!

    That was an insane ending to a great game. I had horrible flashbacks to the the 2 NYG superbowls on that catch. Was trying to wrap my brain around how a team could lose 3 superbowls because of a 1 in a million catch. And then the Butler did it! What a play, one of the greatest plays in SB history. I expect to watch that play about 500 times today. A little hung over, but damn I am still pumped.

    Those were 2 good throws and catches. Not the same as that Seahawks catch

    The Tyree play was extremely similar. Take off your Eli Manning jersey and try looking at things objectively for once dude

    I disagree. They're a little similar in the "holy shit, did that really just happen?" factor. But Tyree's catch was a great play. He caught a pass with a guy hanging all over him. People talk about it like he had stick-um on his helmet. He didn't. He just out-muscled Rodney Harrison. Last night's play was a lucky ricochet.

    I agree that he out muscled Harrison...but he used his helmet to hold it! And I think the whole play itself had a certain amount of luck involved. Eli was dead in the water in the pocket. He makes a miraculous escape to elude a sack and heaves it up to Tyree. Eli is not necessarily known as Mr Elusive in the pocket. And of course both came in the waning moments of the 4th with the game on the line. I think if Seattle won, those two plays would be linked together forever.

    I agree that they'd be linked together. Hell, the Tyree catch is linked with Manningham catch when the there's nothing at all lucky about the Manningham one. It was just Eli making one of the great throws of all-time. But as for Tyree, I don't get why you say "he used his helmet to hold it." That's all he could have done. And that's harder than simply using your hands. I dunno. I just don't think anything about it was lucky on Tyree's end. Even Eli's escape wasn't lucky. Trust me, I know he's not Mr. Elusive. But in the biggest situations, shouldn't making plays you don't normally make be complimented instead of being dismissed as lucky? I think so.

    One thing though....there did appear to be some offensive holds by the Giants on that play that weren't called. So if I'm gonna concede anything about that play as being "lucky", that's what I'll concede. But the worst are the people that say Eli should have been called "down in the grasp." FUCK THAT. Tackle the man. But yeah....there might have been some holds.

    Dude, the juggler may be right. EVERYTHING about Eli/David Tyree was lucky.

    Whoa I never thought about it like that! See I thought it was a great play. Like the ball was in the air and Tyree could have made play and so could have Harrison....and it was Tyree that made it. But the way you capitalized "EVERYTHING" makes me rethink the way I've thought about this play over the last seven years.
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Eli/Tyree in my opinion is certainly a lucky play. (Not as lucky however as that catch last night!) They showed the Giants play over and over yesterday and there was not 1 time where I didn't feel it was lucky as could be. Makes me want to capitalize it too.
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    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Eli/Tyree in my opinion is certainly a lucky play. (Not as lucky however as that catch last night!) They showed the Giants play over and over yesterday and there was not 1 time where I didn't feel it was lucky as could be. Makes me want to capitalize it too.

    Well to each their own I guess. It's totally subjective. I can see the elements of the play that some might call "lucky". But the actual catch? I'd call it "hard" or "difficult" before I'd call it "lucky." But enough about Tyree's catch. Let's get back to that disastrous final sequence for Seattle. It was like a bad play I'd make in Madden. "I bet a slant will work here!" And then I get picked off. Also, that was a great play by Butler. Not every DB, even one that knew the play was coming, would have reacted fast enough to make a play. And ya gotta catch it. He he collides with the receiver and doesn't make the catch. Then it's third down and things could have been very different.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Eli/Tyree in my opinion is certainly a lucky play. (Not as lucky however as that catch last night!) They showed the Giants play over and over yesterday and there was not 1 time where I didn't feel it was lucky as could be. Makes me want to capitalize it too.

    Well to each their own I guess. It's totally subjective. I can see the elements of the play that some might call "lucky". But the actual catch? I'd call it "hard" or "difficult" before I'd call it "lucky." But enough about Tyree's catch. Let's get back to that disastrous final sequence for Seattle. It was like a bad play I'd make in Madden. "I bet a slant will work here!" And then I get picked off. Also, that was a great play by Butler. Not every DB, even one that knew the play was coming, would have reacted fast enough to make a play. And ya gotta catch it. He he collides with the receiver and doesn't make the catch. Then it's third down and things could have been very different.

    Agree and like the comparison to a bad play call made by a gamer.
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  • Last-12-Exit
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    Yes, it was a great play. But is Eli known for his elusiveness? He should have been sacked but NE made him look like Randall Cunningham on that play. Is Tyree even in the league anymore? He was, at the time, the unknown hero like NE cb Butler was last night. Right?
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    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Ledbetterman10 wrote: »
    F Me In The Brain wrote: »
    Eli/Tyree in my opinion is certainly a lucky play. (Not as lucky however as that catch last night!) They showed the Giants play over and over yesterday and there was not 1 time where I didn't feel it was lucky as could be. Makes me want to capitalize it too.

    Well to each their own I guess. It's totally subjective. I can see the elements of the play that some might call "lucky". But the actual catch? I'd call it "hard" or "difficult" before I'd call it "lucky." But enough about Tyree's catch. Let's get back to that disastrous final sequence for Seattle. It was like a bad play I'd make in Madden. "I bet a slant will work here!" And then I get picked off. Also, that was a great play by Butler. Not every DB, even one that knew the play was coming, would have reacted fast enough to make a play. And ya gotta catch it. He he collides with the receiver and doesn't make the catch. Then it's third down and things could have been very different.

    Agree and like the comparison to a bad play call made by a gamer.

    And that plays right into carrols decision to "waste" a play.
  • The Juggler
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    edited February 2015
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    Yes, it was a great play. But is Eli known for his elusiveness? He should have been sacked but NE made him look like Randall Cunningham on that play. Is Tyree even in the league anymore? He was, at the time, the unknown hero like NE cb Butler was last night. Right?

    As a Bills fan, surely this play was on your mind when typing out that post:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MeycJbMIAw

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