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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    Pats go 12-4 with Garopolo going 2-2 in Tom's absence, win their division and the AFC Championship.

    Highly unlikely that they go 2-2 with Jimmy.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,889

    Pats go 12-4 with Garopolo going 2-2 in Tom's absence, win their division and the AFC Championship.

    Highly unlikely that they go 2-2 with Jimmy.
    3 home games against Miami, Buffalo and Houston in the first 4. They should go 3-1, so 2-2 is very do-able.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    The Pats went 11-5 with Cassel. They can go 2-2 or 3-1 with Jimmy
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    Poncier said:

    Tom Brady: Suspected of being "generally aware" of air being let out of footballs that science has proven was likely caused by atmospheric conditions; 4 game suspension.

    Sheldon Richardson: Arrested for evading police & resisting arrest in a high speed chase in Missouri, reaching speeds of 143 MPH with a loaded gun, a 12 year old child and the scent of marijuana in the car; 1 game suspension.

    Roger Goodell: Fair and even handed.

    Unfortunately this is what happens when you challenge the dictator. This will some day come back to haunt him. Patriots will go 2-2 during Brady's unwelcomed vacation.

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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    edited July 2016
    Poncier said:

    Pats go 12-4 with Garopolo going 2-2 in Tom's absence, win their division and the AFC Championship.

    Highly unlikely that they go 2-2 with Jimmy.
    3 home games against Miami, Buffalo and Houston in the first 4. They should go 3-1, so 2-2 is very do-able.
    All of those teams are teams going up, not down.

    Well, Houston isn't going up.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969

    Pats go 12-4 with Garopolo going 2-2 in Tom's absence, win their division and the AFC Championship.

    Highly unlikely that they go 2-2 with Jimmy.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,969
    ESPN is reporting that mesmerization has been banned by the NFL. Jonathan Kraft is quoted as being very interested in a trade for a qb explaining that the first four games of the season are crucial to their long term success. He reportedly said all options are on the table before walking away and refusing to answer any further questions. Tom Brady meanwhile was quoted as saying, mmmmmmmm, Geisel. Back to you Larry.
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190

    I'm predicting as the season draws closer around Labor Day, NFL will lower suspension to 2 Games
    Reason: To make the league look good. And ratings
    Also Week 3 Houston @ New England - Primetime Thursday night.
    NFL knows no 1 wants to see Osweiler vs Garrapolo
    NE opens @ Arizona -ALSO Primetime Sept 11....Pats are then HOME to Fish
    It does no one any good to bring Brady back in Week 5- @ Cleveland/ Regional telecast
    They will want JJ Watt vs. Brady...plus Osweiler beat Pats last year with Brady........
    Tom deciding to drop suit means NFL won, they will cave and NBC needs them to

    What do you think.....?

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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,825
    ^^^^Well, i don't think he should've been suspended (and i'm not a Pats fan). From what i read teams have been fined fucking with the ball. $25,000 , i think. But, who knows with the NFL.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,520
    g under p said:


    I'm predicting as the season draws closer around Labor Day, NFL will lower suspension to 2 Games
    Reason: To make the league look good. And ratings
    Also Week 3 Houston @ New England - Primetime Thursday night.
    NFL knows no 1 wants to see Osweiler vs Garrapolo
    NE opens @ Arizona -ALSO Primetime Sept 11....Pats are then HOME to Fish
    It does no one any good to bring Brady back in Week 5- @ Cleveland/ Regional telecast
    They will want JJ Watt vs. Brady...plus Osweiler beat Pats last year with Brady........
    Tom deciding to drop suit means NFL won, they will cave and NBC needs them to

    What do you think.....?

    Peace

    don't see that happening since the NFLPA it still saying they are going to try continue the case and Kraft continues to rip the NFL. and NFL doesn't need Tom Brady for ratings. they are already the highest rated show every week.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I'm surprised the NFL didn't schedule a Pats vs Colts game this year
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jason P said:

    I'm surprised the NFL didn't schedule a Pats vs Colts game this year

    They don't just "schedule" games like that. Each team plays their division rivals twice (6 games), one entire division in their conference (4 games) and one division in the other conference (4 games). That's a total of 14 games. The other two games are determined by where you placed in your division. New England came in first place in their division (like fucking always), and they're playing the entire AFC North, so they'll play their other two AFC games against the first place teams in the two AFC divisions they're not playing (Texans from the AFC South and Broncos from the AFC West).

    The fact the Patriots and Colts played each other so often for so many years is purely coincidental. It was never scheduled to capitalize on the Brady/Manning stuff or anything like that. But for the most part, both teams would come in first in their divisions so they'd play each other. But there were also occasions when both teams didn't come in first and still played. In 2008 for example, the Patriots were second in their division, and the Colts were first....but they played each other in 2009 because their divisions played each other.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    ^ I did not know that.

    Still doesn't make sense that the Dolphins didn't go to the AFC South ...
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,889
    Jason P said:

    ^ I did not know that.

    Still doesn't make sense that the Dolphins didn't go to the AFC South ...

    That was to preserve long time rivalries, kind of like the way Dallas doesn't make geographic sense being in the NFC east and when the league re-aligned would have made sense to move them and have someone like maybe Carolina go to the east, but no way the NFL is eliminating a rivalry like Redskins-Cowboys (or Eagles-Cowboys & Giants-Cowboys).

    At least with the Rams moving back to LA, the divisions look pretty logical from a geographic sense with the exception of Dallas and maybe Indy & Miami.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,889
    g under p said:


    I'm predicting as the season draws closer around Labor Day, NFL will lower suspension to 2 Games
    Reason: To make the league look good. And ratings
    Also Week 3 Houston @ New England - Primetime Thursday night.
    NFL knows no 1 wants to see Osweiler vs Garrapolo
    NE opens @ Arizona -ALSO Primetime Sept 11....Pats are then HOME to Fish
    It does no one any good to bring Brady back in Week 5- @ Cleveland/ Regional telecast
    They will want JJ Watt vs. Brady...plus Osweiler beat Pats last year with Brady........
    Tom deciding to drop suit means NFL won, they will cave and NBC needs them to

    What do you think.....?

    Peace

    No way the suspension gets reduced unless Roger Goodell gets hit by a bus.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Poncier said:

    Jason P said:

    ^ I did not know that.

    Still doesn't make sense that the Dolphins didn't go to the AFC South ...

    That was to preserve long time rivalries, kind of like the way Dallas doesn't make geographic sense being in the NFC east and when the league re-aligned would have made sense to move them and have someone like maybe Carolina go to the east, but no way the NFL is eliminating a rivalry like Redskins-Cowboys (or Eagles-Cowboys & Giants-Cowboys).

    At least with the Rams moving back to LA, the divisions look pretty logical from a geographic sense with the exception of Dallas and maybe Indy & Miami.
    I guess it worked out for the Colts as the rest of the AFC South has historically sucked. The Titans were good for a while. The Jags have had a few good seasons (damn you Jones-Drew) but for the most part are bottom feeders, and the Texans just can't turn the corner when it seems like they might become contenders.
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    Poncier said:

    g under p said:


    I'm predicting as the season draws closer around Labor Day, NFL will lower suspension to 2 Games
    Reason: To make the league look good. And ratings
    Also Week 3 Houston @ New England - Primetime Thursday night.
    NFL knows no 1 wants to see Osweiler vs Garrapolo
    NE opens @ Arizona -ALSO Primetime Sept 11....Pats are then HOME to Fish
    It does no one any good to bring Brady back in Week 5- @ Cleveland/ Regional telecast
    They will want JJ Watt vs. Brady...plus Osweiler beat Pats last year with Brady........
    Tom deciding to drop suit means NFL won, they will cave and NBC needs them to

    What do you think.....?

    Peace

    No way the suspension gets reduced unless Roger Goodell gets hit by a bus.
    Well let's hope he does, one of those big red Trailways bus.

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Poncier said:

    Jason P said:

    ^ I did not know that.

    Still doesn't make sense that the Dolphins didn't go to the AFC South ...

    That was to preserve long time rivalries, kind of like the way Dallas doesn't make geographic sense being in the NFC east and when the league re-aligned would have made sense to move them and have someone like maybe Carolina go to the east, but no way the NFL is eliminating a rivalry like Redskins-Cowboys (or Eagles-Cowboys & Giants-Cowboys).

    At least with the Rams moving back to LA, the divisions look pretty logical from a geographic sense with the exception of Dallas and maybe Indy & Miami.
    I complete understand this...but have always felt it was unfair to Miami and Dallas as far as travel goes. Dallas has to fly about 1,500 miles three times a year to play Washington, New York, and Philadelphia. Those three teams only have to make that trip once. Otherwise, they're just within four hours (driving) of each other. This goes the same for Miami as the Pats, Bills, and Jets are all relatively close to each other.

    And remember when the Arizona Cardinals used to be in the NFC East? Weird.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    If the NFL has no issue trotting out the typical Thursday night matchups, they'll be just fine with trotting out a Brady-less Pats team.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    edited July 2016
    My personal realignment proposal:

    AFC North - Buffalo, Cleveland, New England, NY Jets
    AFC East - Baltimore, Cincinnati, Detroit, Pittsburgh
    AFC South - Jacksonville, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay
    AFC West - Denver, Kansas City, Oakland, Seattle

    NFC North - Chicago, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota
    NFC East - Carolina, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Washington
    NFC South - Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Tennessee
    NFC West - Arizona, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco
    Post edited by HesCalledDyer on
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    Dallas was kept in the East because of the rivalries
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,842
    Highly doubt they would ever realign since these teams only travel 8 times per year.
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    My personal realignment proposal:

    AFC North - Buffalo, Cleveland, New England, NY Jets
    AFC East - Baltimore, Cincinnati, Detroit, Pittsburgh
    AFC South - Jacksonville, Miami, New Orleans, Tampa Bay
    AFC West - Denver, Kansas City, Oakland, Seattle

    NFC North - Chicago, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota
    NFC East - Carolina, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Washington
    NFC South - Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Tennessee
    NFC West - Arizona, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco

    Why would you take buffalo out of the East (along with NE and the NYJ) and put Detroit (an NFC team) and Cindy in the east? Doesn't make any sense
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    edited July 2016
    It makes perfect sense. Detroit & Cincy are in the eastern time zone and Buffalo is north of both of them.

    What doesn't make sense is Pittsburgh, Baltimore, & Cinci currently in the north when there are numerous teams farther north than them.
    Post edited by HesCalledDyer on
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    I suppose you could swap Detroit & Cleveland but it's not that much of a difference.
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    It makes perfect sense. Detroit & Cincy are in the eastern time zone and Buffalo is north of both of them.

    What doesn't make sense is Pittsburgh, Baltimore, & Cinci currently in the north when there are numerous teams farther north than them.

    But buffalo, NE, Miami, and NYJ are all much farther east than cincy, Pitt, and detroit.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    They are also much farther north than them. The others are still in eastern United States. Suppose I call the East divisions in both conferences Mid-Atlantic instead?
    My goal was to get Miami out of a division with northeastern teams and into the south, Dallas out of the east, Indianapolis out of the south, as well as putting 4 teams geographically close together in all 8 divisions. Take a map, take 8 different color markers, and dot the map as I have it laid out. It's not perfect but it's certainly better than the current alignment.
    I didn't really have to swap New Orleans & Houston or San Diego & Seattle, either, but thought it was fun to mix it up a bit.
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    They are also much farther north than them. The others are still in eastern United States. Suppose I call the East divisions in both conferences Mid-Atlantic instead?
    My goal was to get Miami out of a division with northeastern teams and into the south, Dallas out of the east, Indianapolis out of the south, as well as putting 4 teams geographically close together in all 8 divisions. Take a map, take 8 different color markers, and dot the map as I have it laid out. It's not perfect but it's certainly better than the current alignment.
    I didn't really have to swap New Orleans & Houston or San Diego & Seattle, either, but thought it was fun to mix it up a bit.

    I just don't like the idea of teams switching conferences just for geographical purposes. It sounds like you just want Miami to be in an easier division. They are going to suck in any division. But the easiest way to do it would be to switch Miami with Baltimore. Then switch Miami with maybe Indy or Tennessee.
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Miami doesn't have it nearly as bad as Kansas city. Why the hell are they in the west?
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    igotid88 said:

    Dallas was kept in the East because of the rivalries

    Rivalries is the excuse. Money is the reason they're still in the NFC East.
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