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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,226
    edited September 2014
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  • Really, after watching this again, that has to be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. It was totally premeditated to punch her.

    It actually looks like he leaned in and spit on her before they got on the elevator and again after they got in. You can't see the spit but it looks like he makes the motion right before she swiped at him outside the elevator. I could be wrong but that just adds to his douchiness.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,141

    So does dude ever play again? He is a so so running back who is clearly a dirtball and will be a PR nightmare. At the same time, a lot of teams will need a running back down the stretch and Vick came back and played (although he did serve time), and there are clearly tons of dirtballs in the NFL.

    I think we've seen the last of him.
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  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited September 2014
    imalive said:

    So does dude ever play again? He is a so so running back who is clearly a dirtball and will be a PR nightmare. At the same time, a lot of teams will need a running back down the stretch and Vick came back and played (although he did serve time), and there are clearly tons of dirtballs in the NFL.

    I think we've seen the last of him.
    I agree. I don't remember videos of Michael Vick actually killing the dogs himself. People have a stronger reaction when they can see a video. It can't be unseen. I'm not giving Vick a pass as I believe he is a douche as well, but I can't see a team taking Rice on. His talent is also on the decline already.
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  • imalive said:

    So does dude ever play again? He is a so so running back who is clearly a dirtball and will be a PR nightmare. At the same time, a lot of teams will need a running back down the stretch and Vick came back and played (although he did serve time), and there are clearly tons of dirtballs in the NFL.

    I think we've seen the last of him.
    I agree. I don't remember videos of Michael Vick actually killing the dogs himself. People have a stronger reaction when they can see a video. It can't be unseen. I'm not giving Vick a pass as I believe he is a douche as well, but I can't see a team taking Rice on. His talent is also on the decline already.
    Yeah I agree too. He's a total pariah now. Knocking a woman out cold on video for the world to see is different than letting your stupid, freeloading friends run a dog-fighting ring. Not saying Vick wasn't in the wrong because he was. But this is so much more serious.
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  • Holy shit fuck John Harbaugh. A reporter just asked him why did the Ravens opinion change so drastically today with the release of the video. "What is it you think happened in that elevator?" asked the reporter. Harbaugh totally blew him off. Here's the real answer:

    "Well we knew he knocked her out. But we didn't care if people were upset about that because we need a tailback. But now that everybody has gone from "upset" to "totally pissed" after seeing the video, we decided to cut him."
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  • Ray Lewis should keep his fucking mouth shut.

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  • Nobody was ever convicted of murder in that little Ray Lewis incident, right?

    Nobody
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  • Nobody was ever convicted of murder in that little Ray Lewis incident, right?

    Nobody

    I actually agree with Ray Lewis. He said there's no comparison between him and Ray Rice....and he's right. He's far more comparable to Aaron Hernandez.
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  • Nobody was ever convicted of murder in that little Ray Lewis incident, right?

    Nobody

    I actually agree with Ray Lewis. He said there's no comparison between him and Ray Rice....and he's right. He's far more comparable to Aaron Hernandez.
    Michael Vick killed puppies
    Ray Lewis and his buddies were involved in MURDER.

    And people think Rice wont play in the NFL AGAIN?


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,880
    edited September 2014

    Nobody was ever convicted of murder in that little Ray Lewis incident, right?

    Nobody

    I actually agree with Ray Lewis. He said there's no comparison between him and Ray Rice....and he's right. He's far more comparable to Aaron Hernandez.
    Michael Vick killed puppies
    Ray Lewis and his buddies were involved in MURDER.

    And people think Rice wont play in the NFL AGAIN?


    No I don't think he'll play again and it has nothing to do with morals or degree of the crime. He's not as good a player as Ray Lewis or Michael Vick. Lewis is an all-time great player and Vick is....umm.....well......he was REALLY good on Madden that one year. You think Roethlisberger would still be a Steeler if was had Jay Cutler's career? Two sexual assault allegations? He'd have been shipped to Oakland in a heartbeat. The bottom-line is all that matters to these owners.
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  • I will not defend Ray rice and what he did. In no way shape or form is it acceptable behavior. He is coward, a bully, a criminal. He should be in a jail cell. But he's not. Why not? He's got money, a good lawyer, probably donates hundreds of thousands into charities and in his community. He's a first time offender. I know what the PTI program is. I know several good people that have gone through it. I don't know how often or if ever it has been used for a first time offender of high aggravated assault.

    I agree with Keith Olbermann, everybody involved with this case dropped the ball. This guys career is.most likely over. I don't feel sorry for him at all. I can only hope he saved some of the millions hes already made. But there are guys in the NFL right now who are responsible for the deaths of others. Why are we holding Ray Rice to a higher standard than that guy from the cowboys who's dui car accident killed his teammate? Or Ray Lewis? Hell, he will be in the hall of fame in a few years.

    I don't know how to feel about this whole situation. Rice is a piece of shit. I guess I'm not surprised that rice lied to keep his ass in the league. Could you say you wouldn't? And why the fuck did Goodell not have access to that video in the first place?
  • Holy shit fuck John Harbaugh. A reporter just asked him why did the Ravens opinion change so drastically today with the release of the video. "What is it you think happened in that elevator?" asked the reporter. Harbaugh totally blew him off. Here's the real answer:

    "Well we knew he knocked her out. But we didn't care if people were upset about that because we need a tailback. But now that everybody has gone from "upset" to "totally pissed" after seeing the video, we decided to cut him."

    Harbaugh is such a jerkoff. And the Ravens are a complete jerkoff organization. I still can't get over how badly this situation was handled by everyone involved.
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    I love how the Ravens send out the coach to talk. He is a fucking nobody in all of this. Where are all the decision makers from the NJ courts, Ravens and the NFL? They're are all cowards. Pro sports keeps estranging itself from me more and more everyday and I fucking love sports.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    edited September 2014
    I think he plays again, just not this year. Vick was welcomed back, Rothlisberger is revered, Rice will be back.

    Will Goodell survive this...that I don't know. My bet is probably yes but he has now blown too many signature decisions to be taken seriously. Plus, how many owners are hearing about this from there wives? He may be in trouble.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,519
    i really don't understand why there isn't a hell of a lot more scrutiny on the prosecution in this case as opposed to the NFL. getting probation and an ard program for this is more disgusting than only a 2 game ban in the NFL and those fuckers for sure had all the tapes.

    and no chance he ever plays in the NFL again. those comparing to Vick are wrong. Vick served jail time and paid his debt to society. she will divorce him in a few months when it settles down, take 1/2 of what he has got now and he will be dead broke within 3 years.
  • JimmyV said:



    Will Goodell survive this...that I don't know. My bet is probably yes but he has now blown too many signature decisions to be taken seriously. Plus, how many owners are hearing about this from there wives? He may be in trouble.

    With the amount of money the NFL owners are making, not a chance that Goodell gets booted.
  • pjhawks said:

    i really don't understand why there isn't a hell of a lot more scrutiny on the prosecution in this case as opposed to the NFL. getting probation and an ard program for this is more disgusting than only a 2 game ban in the NFL and those fuckers for sure had all the tapes.

    and no chance he ever plays in the NFL again. those comparing to Vick are wrong. Vick served jail time and paid his debt to society. she will divorce him in a few months when it settles down, take 1/2 of what he has got now and he will be dead broke within 3 years.

    He will be broke early anyway, he is a moron athlete. The guys that are smart are set for life...the morons are broke right away. That 30 for 30 on the topic was awesome. A lot of stupid, foolish people out there.


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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162

    Holy shit fuck John Harbaugh. A reporter just asked him why did the Ravens opinion change so drastically today with the release of the video. "What is it you think happened in that elevator?" asked the reporter. Harbaugh totally blew him off. Here's the real answer:

    "Well we knew he knocked her out. But we didn't care if people were upset about that because we need a tailback. But now that everybody has gone from "upset" to "totally pissed" after seeing the video, we decided to cut him."

    Harbaugh is such a jerkoff. And the Ravens are a complete jerkoff organization. I still can't get over how badly this situation was handled by everyone involved.
    Agree on all accounts. The video changed nothing- we all knew she was knocked out cold and dragged out. What did Goodell and the Ravens think? That they were cuddling and Ray's fist clocked her head on accident? The video shows what we all knew a long time ago.
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,659
    JK_Livin said:

    I love how the Ravens send out the coach to talk. He is a fucking nobody in all of this. Where are all the decision makers from the NJ courts, Ravens and the NFL? They're are all cowards. Pro sports keeps estranging itself from me more and more everyday and I fucking love sports.

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  • I'm getting a little tired of hearing these commentators say that the fans are enablers of the system that allows Ray rice to only be suspended for 2 games initially. We love football. That doesn't mean we agree with Roger Goodell. That doesn't mean we should boycott when we feel injustices occur. That doesn't mean i should stop watching football because Ray rice is a wife beater. Fuck that.
  • I'm getting a little tired of hearing these commentators say that the fans are enablers of the system that allows Ray rice to only be suspended for 2 games initially. We love football. That doesn't mean we agree with Roger Goodell. That doesn't mean we should boycott when we feel injustices occur. That doesn't mean i should stop watching football because Ray rice is a wife beater. Fuck that.

    We also love the competition. If they have to throw out 10 people to get others to come correct and respect the chance they have to make millions of dollars a year using their talents then so be it. The games will still be competitive. I loved football no less in 1988 when the Bubba Parris was the laughing stock of football with his fat 300+ pound frame. Now more lineman are 300 I bet than not. I may have even loved it more then.
    As fans we will scramble to keep up with whatever they put out there. If there are less spectacularly talented guys the talent level is still out of this world and entertaining. (And we know they already cut the normally talented guys that are a pain in the ass.)

    We all feed into the beast that the NFL is but I personally think they have a product that they cannot fuck up w/o over-saturating the market, getting too greedy, or having huge black eyes from issues like this.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,141

    I can't see a team taking Rice on. His talent is also on the decline already.

    sadly, his declining talent is probably why he's done. If he was marshawn lynch, teams would be calculating how soon would be too soon.....and they'd be crafting their "second chance" speech.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,878
    pjhawks said:

    i really don't understand why there isn't a hell of a lot more scrutiny on the prosecution in this case as opposed to the NFL. getting probation and an ard program for this is more disgusting than only a 2 game ban in the NFL and those fuckers for sure had all the tapes.

    well isn't this because his wife refused to press charges?
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  • pjhawks said:

    i really don't understand why there isn't a hell of a lot more scrutiny on the prosecution in this case as opposed to the NFL. getting probation and an ard program for this is more disgusting than only a 2 game ban in the NFL and those fuckers for sure had all the tapes.

    well isn't this because his wife refused to press charges?
    They don't her cooperation. They had all the evidence they needed to prosecute. They decided not to.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Ryan Leaf got another five years jail time although he won't have to serve any additional to what he is currently in for. Could the be any chasm wider between how careers played out for potential #1 picks than Leaf and Manning?
  • Jason P said:

    Ryan Leaf got another five years jail time although he won't have to serve any additional to what he is currently in for. Could the be any chasm wider between how careers played out for potential #1 picks than Leaf and Manning?

    Crazy. It's one thing for Leaf to turn out to be a bust, but now he's in jail while Manning just played in a Super Bowl last year at the age of 38. Colts sure made the right decision on that one.
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