US Marines urinating on dead bodies in Afghanistan

zarocat
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edited January 2012 in A Moving Train
WARNING: Graphic content

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/marines-peeing-taliban
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Why the hell would they film this and put on YouTube? They're only giving the Taliban more reasons to attack our bases there.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    This kind of abuse always goes on during wars of occupation. Soldiers cutting off ears, massacring people in cold blood, shooting passers-by for sport, e.t.c, e.t.c.

    It happened in Vietnam, and it happened in Afghanistan and Iraq. And these atrocities will always happen as long as the public in Britain and the U.S choose to remain blinkered to the crimes of their governments.

    People are already swallowing the latest bout of media bullshit regarding Iran, less than ten years after they swallowed the bullshit regarding Iraq. So this shit just goes on, and on...

    But I suppose that as long as it's not Americans being mutilated and killed then it just doesn't matter.
  • zarocat
    zarocat Posts: 1,901
    Newch91 wrote:
    Why the hell would they film this and put on YouTube? They're only giving the Taliban more reasons to attack our bases there.

    Politics.
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    2009: Toronto
    2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    zarocat wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Why the hell would they film this and put on YouTube? They're only giving the Taliban more reasons to attack our bases there.

    Politics.

    idiocy.
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    Oooh-Rah! :roll:
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Land of the Pee. The home of the Depraved.

    What they fuck were they thinking?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,621
    catefrances wrote:
    zarocat wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Why the hell would they film this and put on YouTube? They're only giving the Taliban more reasons to attack our bases there.

    Politics.

    idiocy.

    Don't know the original motives of the person filming or posting, but it's likely done for the truth, or at least that what I like to think. I support the disbursement of things like this. If people want their wars, then they should see what it's about and what goes on.
  • conman
    conman Posts: 7,493
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    What they fuck were they thinking?
    they weren't
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    why am i not surprised?

    war fucks people up.

    makes them do stupid things.

    i reckon when you see dead bodies everyday you kinda get desensitized to it and you have to joke around in the heavy moments.

    those guys are in hell over there. they just got out of a firefight so i doubt that with the adrenaline dump they were thinking very clearly.

    still, they killed the guys. i guess it was not enough so they had to piss on them as well...

    i hate war.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ...
    i hate war.

    any sane person does.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    I work with a lot of ex-military guys.

    They tend to flock to gay porn because it pays well, it's easy work to find for young men in good shape and as I've been told, "A Marine Adapts to Any Situation."

    They tell me some horror stories of things they've seen and done. And many people, no matter how hard we try not to, end up looking at them differently... maybe like they're the bad guys.

    I feel horrible for them, but wow... that's pretty fucked up.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited January 2012
    I recommend the documentary 'Winter Soldier' for anyone interested in the shit that goes down in these bullshit wars of occupation.
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  • Nevermind90
    Nevermind90 Posts: 722
    a bullet in each head I'd say.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
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  • MookiesLaw
    MookiesLaw Posts: 158
    It's sad that it takes a few bad apples to discredit the rest. Just how stupid can you get?

    As for the people saying they "hate war"...
    How much do you really hate it? Enough to vote for Ron Paul?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hey ... it's always a few bad apples here and there ...

    we should remember that the only reason why we see this stuff is because some of these bastards decide to film it or take pictures ... that's the ONLY way anything would get done about it ...

    the prisoner abuse at abu ghraib is another example ... it would have been business as usual if not for those pictures ... what that tells us is the problem is systemic and flows right on up through the chain of command ...

    you want to go over to someone else's country and impose your idea of freedom!? ... well, you are gonna have to kill people who resist that idea and so, you need to develop a real hate and be brainwashed into thinking these people are the scum of the earth ... this is the result ...
  • MookiesLaw
    MookiesLaw Posts: 158
    polaris_x wrote:
    hey ... it's always a few bad apples here and there ...

    we should remember that the only reason why we see this stuff is because some of these bastards decide to film it or take pictures ... that's the ONLY way anything would get done about it ...

    the prisoner abuse at abu ghraib is another example ... it would have been business as usual if not for those pictures ... what that tells us is the problem is systemic and flows right on up through the chain of command ...

    you want to go over to someone else's country and impose your idea of freedom!? ... well, you are gonna have to kill people who resist that idea and so, you need to develop a real hate and be brainwashed into thinking these people are the scum of the earth ... this is the result ...
    Agreed, so vote to bring them home. All of them.

    Or people can continue to be "outraged" when incidents like this occur. Our choice.
  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    As much as I can understand that being in a war can change a person's mentality and make you want to do something stupid in the heat of the moment, this type of behavior is inexcusable. It goes against everything our soldiers are trained to do. It gives the other side propaganda to use against us, which can help recruit people into terrorist groups who otherwise may not have joined those groups. It also puts their fellow soldiers in danger because a captured soldier could be treated even more harshly as revenge for this. Those same soldiers would be furious beyond comprehension if the other side did that to one of their fellow troops. To do it at all is stupid and unacceptable. To do it while being recorded is monumentally stupid (I haven't watched the clip so I don't know if they knew they were being filmed or not, but in this day and age it's pretty much a safe bet to just assume anything you do outside of your home could be recorded by someone). The only good thing about this being recorded is that it will lead to punishment for everyone involved. My question about it being posted, though, is this: if the person who posted it did it to expose bad behavior, why not just submit the footage to the military and let them handle it?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    MookiesLaw wrote:
    Agreed, so vote to bring them home. All of them.

    Or people can continue to be "outraged" when incidents like this occur. Our choice.

    do you think ron paul can stand up to the military industrial complex?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Monster Rain wrote:
    As much as I can understand that being in a war can change a person's mentality and make you want to do something stupid in the heat of the moment, this type of behavior is inexcusable. It goes against everything our soldiers are trained to do. It gives the other side propaganda to use against us, which can help recruit people into terrorist groups who otherwise may not have joined those groups. It also puts their fellow soldiers in danger because a captured soldier could be treated even more harshly as revenge for this. Those same soldiers would be furious beyond comprehension if the other side did that to one of their fellow troops. To do it at all is stupid and unacceptable. To do it while being recorded is monumentally stupid (I haven't watched the clip so I don't know if they knew they were being filmed or not, but in this day and age it's pretty much a safe bet to just assume anything you do outside of your home could be recorded by someone). The only good thing about this being recorded is that it will lead to punishment for everyone involved. My question about it being posted, though, is this: if the person who posted it did it to expose bad behavior, why not just submit the footage to the military and let them handle it?

    probably because of what i said ... this is a systemic problem - not an isolated incident ... these things happen all the time and if you "tell" on your fellow soldiers - you are a rat and they will consider you the one to be dealt with ...

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