we all know what's up....Bonds is alleged, too. right now, I figure they have already put in at least 4-5 steroid guys.
Rob, I'm with you. The only actual evidence Bonds used was the failed sample test that Big Papi and a decent portion of MLB failed. Baseball told the players the test wouldn't be used against them which should include the HOF. Bonds was eventually acquitted of the only charge from his trial he was convicted of. Mind you that charge was for obstruction for not fully answering a question about his trainer and other players, nothing to do with him. There is technically no more evidence against him than any of the other guys suspected from that era other than a book written with illegally obtained court documents. I hate when baseball says he was a roid user but other guys like Piazza are suspected. We all know he did them. I am not denying that but he is still technically a suspected user when it comes to MLB and the HOF.
how about his giant head? look at his body from the World Series with the Pirates to his body when with the Giants. He belongs in the hall but if you don't think he was doing PEDs pass that bong you must be hitting on a regular basis.
I've never said Barry didn't take roids. I just feel like pudge, bagwell, piazza, henderson and god-knows-who-else probably did, as well. In fact, bagwell is probably more of a "steroid guy" than Bonds in that steroids played a bigger role in him becoming a HOFer....and, as I've said many times. the "we know he DIDN"T take PED's" is no more valid than "we know he DID." I'm waiting for one of these guys to man up and drop a bombshell in his HOF acceptance speech.
I wouldn't doubt Griffey at least tried them....
If I had known then what I know now...
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we all know what's up....Bonds is alleged, too. right now, I figure they have already put in at least 4-5 steroid guys.
Rob, I'm with you. The only actual evidence Bonds used was the failed sample test that Big Papi and a decent portion of MLB failed. Baseball told the players the test wouldn't be used against them which should include the HOF. Bonds was eventually acquitted of the only charge from his trial he was convicted of. Mind you that charge was for obstruction for not fully answering a question about his trainer and other players, nothing to do with him. There is technically no more evidence against him than any of the other guys suspected from that era other than a book written with illegally obtained court documents. I hate when baseball says he was a roid user but other guys like Piazza are suspected. We all know he did them. I am not denying that but he is still technically a suspected user when it comes to MLB and the HOF.
how about his giant head? look at his body from the World Series with the Pirates to his body when with the Giants. He belongs in the hall but if you don't think he was doing PEDs pass that bong you must be hitting on a regular basis.
I've never said Barry didn't take roids. I just feel like pudge, bagwell, piazza, henderson and god-knows-who-else probably did, as well. In fact, bagwell is probably more of a "steroid guy" than Bonds in that steroids played a bigger role in him becoming a HOFer....and, as I've said many times. the "we know he DIDN"T take PED's" is no more valid than "we know he DID." I'm waiting for one of these guys to man up and drop a bombshell in his HOF acceptance speech.
I wouldn't doubt Griffey at least tried them....
agree. probably not even 10% of players in the 1990s didn't use Peds. it was just the norm of the day. the Hall has become a joke
Question: If you were to start a brand new Baseball Hall of Fame, who would you elect as the first member?
Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.
you already know my answer.
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I think Al's arm must've fell off and that's why he only pitched 6 full seasons, and just couldn't pitch anymore. But, he did have a down year in his 6th season>HAHAHAHA
I think Al's arm must've fell off and that's why he only pitched 6 full seasons, and just couldn't pitch anymore. But, he did have a down year in his 6th season>HAHAHAHA
Those 19th century stats are always fun to look at. Imagine a pitcher today with 300 wins and a career .313 average. Here we are thinking Bumgarner, Arrieta, & Syndergaard can rake!
I played baseball into college (D3) until my shoulder gave out and have coached for 12 years. One thing I still don't understand is slugging percentage! What the hell is it? Someone please explain it me.
I played baseball into college (D3) until my shoulder gave out and have coached for 12 years. One thing I still don't understand is slugging percentage! What the hell is it? Someone please explain it me.
A single is 1.000. a double is 2.000 triple 3 hr 4
But if you're a speedster you can stretch singles into doubles and doubles into triples. And even get more infield singles. Thus making it seem you're hitting for power more than someone
But if you're a speedster you can stretch singles into doubles and doubles into triples. And even get more infield singles. Thus making it seem you're hitting for power more than someone
Not a big fan of slugging pct as a measure of power for the very reason igotid88 stated. And conversely, if you're a big guy that can't run as well, many a would-be double will still have you standing on 1B.
Not a big fan of slugging pct as a measure of power for the very reason igotid88 stated. And conversely, if you're a big guy that can't run as well, many a would-be double will still have you standing on 1B.
Better than fucking WAR, though..
WAR! Good god! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing, I'll say it again now!
But if you're a speedster you can stretch singles into doubles and doubles into triples. And even get more infield singles. Thus making it seem you're hitting for power more than someone
That is not sustainable over a career. A half a dozen singles stretched into doubles a season is not going to have that much of an impact on slugging percentage. A base here or there does not really impact slugging, that's kind of the point of it
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I wouldn't doubt Griffey at least tried them....
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Me: I'd probably have to go with Al Spalding.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Albert Spalding
Ty Cobb
Babe Ruth
Honus Wagner
Christy Mathewson
Walter Johnson
Barry Bonds
Hank Aaron
Pete Rose
Mickey mantle
Joe DiMaggio
Ted Williams.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
I always laugh my ass off looking at his stats. Same with Al Spalding.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml
I think Al's arm must've fell off and that's why he only pitched 6 full seasons, and just couldn't pitch anymore. But, he did have a down year in his 6th season>HAHAHAHA
Jackie Robinson.
Johnny Bench (my all time favourite).
Rogers Hornsby.
And anybody who doesn't think Pudge belongs in the HOF can kiss my ass.
By FAR
In HISTORY
I don't know about all that, but he was damn good & exciting to watch and definitely Hall worthy.
A homerun and a single count the same in batting average. Not the same in slugging.
Better than fucking WAR, though..