see, this confusion and inconsistency on your position is exactly what happens when definitions are not rigidly applied.
pandora, you trying to repeatedly present and defend and expand upon your definition of trolling has created all of this. your definition is not how i apply it, and it is not how the majority of us apply it.
again, we should stick to the definitions of words that have been universally agreed upon.
actually it has been said my definition is correct in that of emotional response
This is the whole point I was trying to make all along.
I know and have seen the few people that enjoy trolling Byrzies posts. There are a few that are blatant attempts...
..posts that have been highlighted here that had obvious intentions to inflame and just stir the pot...its all in the context. Like "blast the fuckers again and again. Take their fucking oil too." What is that trash? It may be a core belief, but there has to be a line drawn. Yesterday Kat insisted someone edit their post that said they'd bomb the dept of education, which was obviously meant as "disassemble"... how is something as simple as that misunderstood?...but this other trash has to be called out. Suggestions of violence, aggression and hate is scary and unhealthy.
Calling another's opinion trash is borderline hateful and degrading in itself ...
do you see this?
Many are in support of our country using force on many issues,
they have the right to speak it. And they do and they use their votes too.
Personally for me the scariest and most unhealthy thing is what you are suggesting,
that is, trying to censor those you do not agree with.
What?! :? Now you're calling me hateful and degrading becaus eI think someones opinion to bomb and kill innocents and steal their oil is trash?! ..and I NEVER said censor! re-read my post. I said called-out. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Calling it trash is not hateful...why do you assume so much? I guess we need another Pandora dictionary lesson. Trash, in this instance is foolish or pointless ideas, talk, or writing, nonsense. Look it up.
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those advocating use of force also have the right to have their opinions dismissed. look at the westboro baptist church. their opinions are quite incendiary. the post about "bombing the fuckers and taking their oil" reminds me of something fred phelps would say, and the poster in question intended that..
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
This is the whole point I was trying to make all along.
I know and have seen the few people that enjoy trolling Byrzies posts. There are a few that are blatant attempts...
..posts that have been highlighted here that had obvious intentions to inflame and just stir the pot...its all in the context. Like "blast the fuckers again and again. Take their fucking oil too." What is that trash? It may be a core belief, but there has to be a line drawn. Yesterday Kat insisted someone edit their post that said they'd bomb the dept of education, which was obviously meant as "disassemble"... how is something as simple as that misunderstood?...but this other trash has to be called out. Suggestions of violence, aggression and hate is scary and unhealthy.
Calling another's opinion trash is borderline hateful and degrading in itself ...
do you see this?
Many are in support of our country using force on many issues,
they have the right to speak it. And they do and they use their votes too.
Personally for me the scariest and most unhealthy thing is what you are suggesting,
that is, trying to censor those you do not agree with.
What?! :? Now you're calling me hateful and degrading becaus eI think someones opinion to bomb and kill innocents and steal their oil is trash?! ..and I NEVER said censor! re-read my post. I said called-out. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Calling it trash is not hateful...why do you assume so much? I guess we need another Pandora dictionary lesson. Trash, in this instance is foolish or pointless ideas, talk, or writing, nonsense. Look it up.
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I think I called your words that not you
called out as in ? you actually said line drawn which sounds like not allowed
sorry if I took that wrong... sounds much more final
trash is trash Jonny you can spin away
still remains that is that posters opinion to dismiss it is degrading to that poster
Sometimes i wonder if he's a real person, or just someone the Admin's made up to stir up shit. The rules on this forum certainly work well in his favor. Or maybe that's why he's here and not on some other forum.
called out as in ? you actually said line drawn which sounds like not allowed
sorry if I took that wrong... sounds much more final
trash is trash Jonny you can spin away
still remains that is that posters opinion to dismiss it is degrading to that poster
I am just amazed that my opinion or words are considered hateful and degrading, yet the line "Bomb the fuckers again and again and take their oil" is considered ok due to free speech. Answer this, is that line hateful and degrading? The irony is thick here. If dismissing an opinion is degrading, then that is all that poster deserves.
Some only get as far as the shit they spew. Hate, violence, and bigotry, I dont have time for, and if its degrading to someone to be dismissed due to their views then so be it. If a person trolls and suggests violence, I'll be the first in line to dismiss them (or degrade, in your words)
called out as in ? you actually said line drawn which sounds like not allowed
sorry if I took that wrong... sounds much more final
trash is trash Jonny you can spin away
still remains that is that posters opinion to dismiss it is degrading to that poster
I am just amazed that my opinion or words are considered hateful and degrading, yet the line "Bomb the fuckers again and again and take their oil" is considered ok due to free speech. Answer this, is that line hateful and degrading? The irony is thick here. If dismissing an opinion is degrading, then that is all that poster deserves.
Some only get as far as the shit they spew. Hate, violence, and bigotry, I dont have time for, and if its degrading to someone to be dismissed due to their views then so be it. If a person trolls and suggests violence, I'll be the first in line to dismiss them (or degrade, in your words)
Not to me that line is not... it is a persons opinion on world politics just that
I may not agree but I agree with the basic right to speak his opinion on world politics
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actually it has been said my definition is correct in that of emotional response
Godfather.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
called out as in ? you actually said line drawn which sounds like not allowed
sorry if I took that wrong... sounds much more final
trash is trash Jonny you can spin away
still remains that is that posters opinion to dismiss it is degrading to that poster
Huh?
I am just amazed that my opinion or words are considered hateful and degrading, yet the line "Bomb the fuckers again and again and take their oil" is considered ok due to free speech. Answer this, is that line hateful and degrading? The irony is thick here. If dismissing an opinion is degrading, then that is all that poster deserves.
Some only get as far as the shit they spew. Hate, violence, and bigotry, I dont have time for, and if its degrading to someone to be dismissed due to their views then so be it. If a person trolls and suggests violence, I'll be the first in line to dismiss them (or degrade, in your words)
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Oh, he's here, but everyone has "foe"'d him.
I may not agree but I agree with the basic right to speak his opinion on world politics
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a. We operate on the "I'm rubber, you're glue" philosophy so if you make a wonderful, thoughtful post with good points and call the other guy a moron while you're at it, it'll be removed. See #3.
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