U2 so overblown....

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    g under p wrote:

    ....So the reason why they are overblown is because they sold quite a few tickets and made the most money on tour last year.....that's your reasoning. If it is that's the case that's very weak even for your standards you had a better point disliking ACDC than this one.

    BTW if things were reversed and PJ sold all those tickets and made all that money would your views of the band be still objective?

    Fact is the band U2 puts on a good enough show to sellout stadiums around the world and in this economy that's a great feat especially since you can get a floor seat for $55 which didn't change for 2 years!

    Peace

    U2 annoy me.
    PJ don't.

    U2 crave the spotlight, PJ do not.
    For that, I don't care if PJ sell all the tickets in the world, because they are down to earth humble artists.
    Wish I could say the same for Bono and the guys.

    You sure...PJ20 isn't craving the spotlight. There was no U2 whatever.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
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  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    Having become bored stiff with everything on the ipod I listened to all of U2s albums last week for the first time in years. They have written some stunning stuff.

    I still think Bono's a knob though.
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
    ZOO TV was irony and it was meant to be ironic and it is the greatest tour and show any band or artist ever put on, before or since.
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    Newch91 wrote:
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
    ZOO TV was irony and it was meant to be ironic and it is the greatest tour and show any band or artist ever put on, before or since.
    Oooooh... I am going to disagree with you on that one... It was a fantastic show...

    But I will go with The Stones on the Tattoo You tour for 200 Alec.
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Newch91 wrote:
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
    ZOO TV was irony and it was meant to be ironic and it is the greatest tour and show any band or artist ever put on, before or since.
    Oooooh... I am going to disagree with you on that one... It was a fantastic show...

    But I will go with The Stones on the Tattoo You tour for 200 Alec.
    Damn you BD! :x ;)
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  • Spoony C
    Spoony C Posts: 278
    I've been a longtime fan (since just after the Joshua Tree hype made them megastars), and have seen them on every tour since Popmart 1997. Their show is more scripted and orderly than a PJ show, due to all the moving parts that need to flow (similar to a Rolling Stones tour), but the most recent show I saw was amazing, and featured several surprises.

    I had seen the opening night of the first North American leg of U2-360 in 2009, but the 2011 version of the show had evolved into less promotion for the new album and more of a career-spanning setlist. Because the 2011 show I saw was in Nashville, they tagged a song with part of "The Wanderer" (a 1993 track which featured Johnny Cash on lead vocal), with Bono doing his best Man In Black impression. They'd never performed that song in front of an audience before, and the only known live recording was a runthrough done for a televised tribute to Johnny Cash, filmed at a soundcheck in an empty arena.

    That would have been enough surprise, but the end of the show was where the real magic happened: Bono, after the last song of the last encore, with the rest of his bandmates nearly off the stage, called everybody back and pulled an audience member from the front row of the pit (and pit front row at a U2 show is the same price as back-of-the-field GA, with a lot more camping out before the show, and isn't some rich-guy VIP thing). The man was blind, and had been holding up a sign that said "Blind Guitarist" all night. Bono handed the guy his Gretsch, asked him what song he wanted to play, and let the (clearly awestruck) guy dedicate the song ("All I Want is You," which features line, "You say you'll give me eyes in a moon of blindness") to his wife. The guy played guitar, Bono sang with full energy, and the other bandmates gradually picked up their instruments (Edge moving to piano). It was simply awesome. At the end, Bono gave the guy his guitar (I read that security took it off his hands and got him out of the stadium safely with it).

    As long as they can still do that kind of thing, I'm still a fan. :D
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,293
    Newch91 wrote:
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
    ZOO TV was irony and it was meant to be ironic and it is the greatest tour and show any band or artist ever put on, before or since.
    Oooooh... I am going to disagree with you on that one... It was a fantastic show...

    But I will go with The Stones on the Tattoo You tour for 200 Alec.

    Man, i saw that Tatto You Tour in 1981 too. I didn't see the Zoo TV tour though, so i can't argue> :lol:

    I ONLY saw U2 once, and i thought they were good.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,401
    lando wrote:
    HILDE wrote:
    Yeah, your right. Way overblown. Been together longer than PJ. Have 2 more albums than PJ.
    Sold 150+ million records...that would be just a couple more than PJ. Have 22 Grammy Awards. Campaign for a lot of great causes. Are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame...yeah, way overblown.

    You missed pretentious, self-indulgent, self righteous, pious and who gives a fuck about a Grammy

    the two sides of the debate, nicely summed up.

    I'm with HILDE....just like the DMB bashing, I just don't get why some PJ fans have to get so up in arms about other successful, long standing bands :?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • i grew up with this band and perhaps that makes a difference

    when the band decided to fill the setlist with achtung baby songs this past summer it once again became the greatest show on earth. nothing comes even close to that spectacle(360)

    and for people who say they were only relevant 20 years ago i would have to remind that the elevation tour/cd was a real thing of beauty, so was pop mart

    AND MOSTLY...the u2/dmb/acdc(etc) bashing gets real old real fast
    move on haters...no one cares what you hate.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    g under p wrote:

    ....So the reason why they are overblown is because they sold quite a few tickets and made the most money on tour last year.....that's your reasoning. If it is that's the case that's very weak even for your standards you had a better point disliking ACDC than this one.

    BTW if things were reversed and PJ sold all those tickets and made all that money would your views of the band be still objective?

    Fact is the band U2 puts on a good enough show to sellout stadiums around the world and in this economy that's a great feat especially since you can get a floor seat for $55 which didn't change for 2 years!

    Peace

    U2 annoy me.
    PJ don't.

    U2 crave the spotlight, PJ do not.
    For that, I don't care if PJ sell all the tickets in the world, because they are down to earth humble artists.
    Wish I could say the same for Bono and the guys.

    Whether a band ANY band craves the spotlight is pointless....why, isn't the point of being a major musical act is to get into the SPOTLIGHT playing music people around the world MAY like. By doing so like the band U2 by carving out more of that spotlight can therefore have more influence to better this world. Well atleast they're trying to do such a thing.....is that a bad thing....to better this world through music I don't think so. Hate their music all you want but craving the spotlight to me is a weak point to dislike this band .......ALL musical bands want, need or crave the spotlight.

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    Living on a lighted stage
    Approaches the unreal
    For those who think and feel
    In touch with some reality
    Beyond the gilded cage.

    Cast in this unlikely role,
    Ill-equipped to act,
    With insufficient tact,
    One must put up barriers
    To keep oneself intact.

    Living in the Limelight,
    The universal dream
    For those who wish to seem.

    Those who wish to be
    Must put aside the alienation,
    Get on with the fascination,
    The real relation,
    The underlying theme.

    Living in a fisheye lens,
    Caught in the camera eye.
    I have no heart to lie,
    I can't pretend a stranger
    Is a long-awaited friend.

    All the world's indeed a stage,
    And we are merely players,
    Performers and portrayers,
    Each another's Audience
    Outside the guilded cage.


    Peace
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Spoony C wrote:
    I've been a longtime fan (since just after the Joshua Tree hype made them megastars), and have seen them on every tour since Popmart 1997. Their show is more scripted and orderly than a PJ show, due to all the moving parts that need to flow (similar to a Rolling Stones tour), but the most recent show I saw was amazing, and featured several surprises.

    I had seen the opening night of the first North American leg of U2-360 in 2009, but the 2011 version of the show had evolved into less promotion for the new album and more of a career-spanning setlist. Because the 2011 show I saw was in Nashville, they tagged a song with part of "The Wanderer" (a 1993 track which featured Johnny Cash on lead vocal), with Bono doing his best Man In Black impression. They'd never performed that song in front of an audience before, and the only known live recording was a runthrough done for a televised tribute to Johnny Cash, filmed at a soundcheck in an empty arena.

    That would have been enough surprise, but the end of the show was where the real magic happened: Bono, after the last song of the last encore, with the rest of his bandmates nearly off the stage, called everybody back and pulled an audience member from the front row of the pit (and pit front row at a U2 show is the same price as back-of-the-field GA, with a lot more camping out before the show, and isn't some rich-guy VIP thing). The man was blind, and had been holding up a sign that said "Blind Guitarist" all night. Bono handed the guy his Gretsch, asked him what song he wanted to play, and let the (clearly awestruck) guy dedicate the song ("All I Want is You," which features line, "You say you'll give me eyes in a moon of blindness") to his wife. The guy played guitar, Bono sang with full energy, and the other bandmates gradually picked up their instruments (Edge moving to piano). It was simply awesome. At the end, Bono gave the guy his guitar (I read that security took it off his hands and got him out of the stadium safely with it).

    As long as they can still do that kind of thing, I'm still a fan. :D


    That is so awesome
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Newch91 wrote:
    PJ20 wasn't a world wide ZOO TV.....
    ZOO TV was irony and it was meant to be ironic and it is the greatest tour and show any band or artist ever put on, before or since.
    Best show ever? I don't know, but I've seen the film from it...

    Gotta go with Arcade Fire, Free show in Montreal this fall. 101,000 people.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498

    AND MOSTLY...the u2/dmb/acdc(etc) bashing gets real old real fast
    move on haters...no one cares what you hate.


    Who in their right mind hates AC/DC???
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    AND MOSTLY...the u2/dmb/acdc(etc) bashing gets real old real fast
    move on haters...no one cares what you hate.


    Who in their right mind hates AC/DC???


    :wave: im sorta in my right mind.but i dont hate them, i just choose not to listen to them. 8-)
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  • AND MOSTLY...the u2/dmb/acdc(etc) bashing gets real old real fast
    move on haters...no one cares what you hate.


    Who in their right mind hates AC/DC???

    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=123332&hilit=acdc

    the OP
    hate breeds hate
    nuff said
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165

    AND MOSTLY...the u2/dmb/acdc(etc) bashing gets real old real fast
    move on haters...no one cares what you hate.


    Who in their right mind hates AC/DC???

    http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... hilit=acdc

    the OP
    hate breeds hate
    nuff said

    Hate AC/DC.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    OP is it because ACDC is played everywhere these days. I hear it at every basketball, hockey, football game played today...Hells Bells

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Yes the music can be good but I won't feel any connection to a band with a big ego.
    @ 12345AGNST1.....no I would not like that, I'd be more a Kurt Cobain type, hate people following me and hanging around me, P-R-I-V-A-C-Y it's priceless to me.

    You think Kurt didn't have a huge ego?

    I think some people can handle fame easier than others. At least Bono has done a huge amount of good with his fame. You can't honestly say that Bono won't leave a postive legacy to the world.