Van Halen 2012 Album & Tour

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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    OGT92 wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:
    It's hard to get past the anger and gives these guys another shot, they could have been the greatist band of my life time, better than U2, or even P.J., well see, hopefully there's some magic left.
    It's hard to be the greatest band when you have a good number of cover songs on your albums. I once did the math and on all of their albums about 20% were cover songs. I might be wrong but it's close to that. I think every album has at least one cover. Hardly great in my mind. I do enjoy most of their music but not all.

    No covers on Women and Chilren First, Fair Warning, 1984, 5150, OU812, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Balance, or 3.

    And they were/are one of the greatest bands in my lifetime.
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  • djklambake
    djklambake PHX, AZ Posts: 2,524
    I was debating this... And then I stopped. Damn right I'm going.
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  • OGT92
    OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    Flagg wrote:
    OGT92 wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:
    It's hard to get past the anger and gives these guys another shot, they could have been the greatist band of my life time, better than U2, or even P.J., well see, hopefully there's some
    magic left.
    It's hard to be the greatest band when you
    have a good number of cover songs on your albums. I once did the math and on all of their albums about 20% were cover songs. I might be wrong but it's close to
    that. I think every album has at least one cover. Hardly great in my mind. I do enjoy most of their music but not all.
    No covers on Women and Chilren First, Fair Warning, 1984, 5150, OU812, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Balance, or 3.

    And they were/are one of the greatest bands in my lifetime.

    I was talking about Dave only. I prefer Sammy over Dave anyway.
    "I read about the evils of drinking, so I gave up reading." - Henry Youngman
  • skeetopunk01
    skeetopunk01 Posts: 145
    I will be going to the Oracle Arena show (Oakland, CA) Already added the event to my last.fm page. Hellz Yeah! I wouldn't miss this reunion for anything. Frankly, I thought it would never happen.
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  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    OGT92 wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    OGT92 wrote:
    It's hard to be the greatest band when you
    have a good number of cover songs on your albums. I once did the math and on all of their albums about 20% were cover songs. I might be wrong but it's close to
    that. I think every album has at least one cover. Hardly great in my mind. I do enjoy most of their music but not all.
    No covers on Women and Chilren First, Fair Warning, 1984, 5150, OU812, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Balance, or 3.

    And they were/are one of the greatest bands in my lifetime.

    I was talking about Dave only. I prefer Sammy over Dave anyway.
    So he just listed 3 of the albums with Dave. Van Halen I=1 cover song, Van Halen II=1 cover song, Diver Down=4 cover songs counting Happy Trails. Wow thats 6 covers in 6 albums at tops thats like 10%.

    I saw them 3 times with Dave and 4 with Sammy and every time rocked. This was my band in the 80s.
    #FHP
  • OGT92
    OGT92 Posts: 1,588
    WOW!!! Dude really? I didn't say my numbers were concrete. I was just saying they have way too many covers on their albums. Just making a point. It's almost as bad as the artists or bands that dont write their own music.

    Covers should be for shows or b-sides or compilations not studio albums. It makes it seem like they ran out of ideas or they got really lazy, but that's just my opinion.
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  • surfanddestroy
    surfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    As much as I love DLR, Sammy will always be my fave he is one of the best front men ever. That being said it would be my dream come to to be able to get to one of these shows, let's just hope they announce some UK dates.

    On an up note i will be seeing Sammy and Michael next week with Chickenfoot :mrgreen:
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    Ain't gonna be any middle anymore.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Oh, sorry. Wasn't trying to start a fight. I just love Van Halen. I'm almost 40 and growing up, they were like Pearl Jam is to me now. I collected boots and posters and all that shit. Tried to go to a lot of shows. Dave originally quit when I was only 12 so I never got to see the original lineup. Just minus Mike in 2008. I do love Sammy as well since he was the singer when I really got into music at around 14 or so, so no matter how bitter or crazy he comes off as now, I still love his version of the band. F.U.C.K. is one of my all time favorite albums.

    They changed my life as much as Pearl Jam did later. I can't wait to see them again and I cannot believe there is actually going to be a new album. Never thought I would see this.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    OGT92 wrote:
    It's hard to be the greatest band when you
    have a good number of cover songs on your albums. I once did the math and on all of their albums about 20% were cover songs. I might be wrong but it's close to
    that. I think every album has at least one cover. Hardly great in my mind. I do enjoy most of their music but not all.
    Horos wrote:
    OGT92 wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    No covers on Women and Chilren First, Fair Warning, 1984, 5150, OU812, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Balance, or 3.

    And they were/are one of the greatest bands in my lifetime.

    I was talking about Dave only. I prefer Sammy over Dave anyway.
    So he just listed 3 of the albums with Dave. Van Halen I=1 cover song, Van Halen II=1 cover song, Diver Down=4 cover songs counting Happy Trails. Wow thats 6 covers in 6 albums at tops thats like 10%.

    I saw them 3 times with Dave and 4 with Sammy and every time rocked. This was my band in the 80s.

    If the cover song brings something new to the rerecording I'm all for them on anyone's album. Most times they're as good as the original track and in VH's case most were that good.

    Loved Dave with VH and the Diamond Dave concert on his own is STILL in my top 10 of alltime of the over 500 shows I've seen. He kept coming up with surprises throughtout the concert including him playing steel drums. If this new album of there's is of ANY quality I MAY be tempted to try and see them and see if they can still put on a show since i first saw them on the DD tour. I even waited on Diamond Dave...real kool guy even though it was 3:30 in the morning.

    Peace
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,690
    Tattoo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfQ-hV3 ... r_embedded
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    igotid88 wrote:
    Tattoo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfQ-hV3 ... r_embedded


    Adolescent lyrics, kick ass grove, soaring solo, Dave acting like a clown. Yay!! Its 1984 all over again!!

    Can't wait for the Dallas show!
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  • Heisenberg
    Heisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,958
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    As much as I once liked them.....ARE THEY SERIOUS! Nothing new or innovative there in that song that sucked.....ok what else you got.

    ACDC comes up with better cheesy lyrics than that crap.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Awful lyrics sure, but I think it's a decent enough song. I'm surprised it's gotten negative reviews pretty well across the board...What were people expecting?

    Dunno why anybody would be looking for anything new or innovative. All rumors about the album are that it sounds like old VH.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    DewieCox wrote:
    Awful lyrics sure, but I think it's a decent enough song. I'm surprised it's gotten negative reviews pretty well across the board...What were people expecting?

    Dunno why anybody would be looking for anything new or innovative. All rumors about the album are that it sounds like old VH.

    Yeah, I don't get it either. Not sure what the expectation is. Not like Dave is going to grow up all of the sudden.

    But people like what they like and vice versa so it's cool.

    I dig it. I realize it is just a rework of Down in Flames but I still dig it.
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  • Atomic Punk
    Atomic Punk Posts: 2,941
    I also don't understand what it was that people were looking for here. I like it a lot. The first listen I was a bit leery, and yeah, the lyrics are cheesy, but what VH song w Roth (and for the most part Hagar for that matter) really have any kind of deep lyrics? Took a couple of listens to get used to it and I like it more with each listen actually. Love the solo, especially when he drags out the end of it. Also love Eddies deep vocals. Cheesy lyrics aside Dave sounds good. Looking forward to hearing all 13 tracks. I wonder if ALL of them are old demos redone. This song, Me Wise Magic and Can't Get This Stuff No More are all better than the tracks they made in '04 for the Hagar tour and Best of album. So anyway, I dig it and look forward to the rest of it.

    I wonder if Mikey gets royalties if he was in on the original songs that are being redone. I will miss Mikey. Wolfgang holds his own and it isn't his fault that his dad kicked Mikey out of the band, so I can't hold anything against the kid.
  • dCowboyPJ
    dCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    man, i know on the first page i said i wouldn't go see them, but i'm starting to change my mind.

    the past couple days i've been on a huge VH kick. i really haven't listened to them much over the past few years. and you know sometimes you forgot how awesome a band really is.

    i've been rocking out to fair warning and 1984 constantly at work.
  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    This was played at the recent NYC show. It's the second song on the new album and a reworking of an old demo. You can't make out the vocals, but based on the barely audible guitar (especially solo!) and the bass groove, and knowing the old demo, this song is going to kick major ass! :shock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzNNg9ALr8w
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    This was played at the recent NYC show. It's the second song on the new album and a reworking of an old demo. You can't make out the vocals, but based on the barely audible guitar (especially solo!) and the bass groove, and knowing the old demo, this song is going to kick major ass! :shock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzNNg9ALr8w


    She's The Woman. Yes, it will. There is another old one called Bullethead on the new record. I've heard that one on boots from 1976. Its really fast. Kind of like Light up the Sky, etc.
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I proudly display all of the Van Halen albums I own, from their debut to Balance. The songs in the 90's with DLR and VHIII with Gary Cherone were awful. I had hope for this new album, but after hearing Tattoo, that hope is lost. They reworked a throwaway song from the 70's, and made it even more throwawayable. The chorus makes me cringe. I thought maybe I'd see the tour this year... I'm less thrilled about that idea now... but Eddie's still got it... but the ticket prices are redonk... maybe I'll win tickets from the WZLX workforce... then I'll be happy to go :)

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