Universal healthcare...lets discuss!

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  • MayDay Malone is too angry to actually discuss anything like an adult...respectable grown ups can their case then listen respectfully to others opinions, in a hope to inform or be informed. What's the point in going so mental over this? You seem to be so angry about how illegal immigrants are poisoning your world. I'm sure if this was a thread on any other issue of American politics, you'd find a way to rant on about the same point. Your 'evidence' is nowhere near as strong as the volume and frequency by which you shout. Are you really expecting your generalizing views to actually convince anyone that you are right? Probably not...your posts have led me to believe that you likely don't care how people respond to you...which makes me question: what are you trying to achieve? You've managed to turn this thread into a one person shouting match, taking away all focus from people who are actually contributing very well, as adults. No one's expecting unanimous agreement - we're allowed to have different political viewpoints...just stop being an arse about it.


    I think its funny that you are affected by my "volume and shouting", ON AN INTERNET BOARD. :lol:

    I recommend a little sunshine for you, maybe a hobby or two.
    :lol:

    I love the liberal hatred being dished my way... keep it coming.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    My anecdotes were about American Medical providers providing care to ILLEGALS.

    Look, I just don't care to discuss this with you anymore. I'll be nice and just say we disagree.

    I can't cancel my Xmas because some jackass on the internet is wrong.

    Peace through strength, bitches.

    More blatant personal attacks from the troll who has no ability to support his outrageously erroneous claims. Surprise, surprise. :roll:

    Given that this is your MO in every thread, I have no understanding of why you're even allowed to be here. Maybe the mods have the Christmas spirit.
  • _ wrote:
    My anecdotes were about American Medical providers providing care to ILLEGALS.

    Look, I just don't care to discuss this with you anymore. I'll be nice and just say we disagree.

    I can't cancel my Xmas because some jackass on the internet is wrong.

    Peace through strength, bitches.

    More blatant personal attacks from the troll who has no ability to support his outrageously erroneous claims. Surprise, surprise. :roll:

    Given that this is your MO in every thread, I have no understanding of why you're even allowed to be here. Maybe the mods have the Christmas spirit.


    Keep it up man.. The troll bait has been tried by hateful libs before- I have a DIFFERENT opinion than you. That is all.

    Calling people trolls, following them around the boards to snipe, will get you your own ban...

    Merry Christmas. Christ is Lord.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    _ wrote:
    My anecdotes were about American Medical providers providing care to ILLEGALS.

    Look, I just don't care to discuss this with you anymore. I'll be nice and just say we disagree.

    I can't cancel my Xmas because some jackass on the internet is wrong.

    Peace through strength, bitches.

    More blatant personal attacks from the troll who has no ability to support his outrageously erroneous claims. Surprise, surprise. :roll:

    Given that this is your MO in every thread, I have no understanding of why you're even allowed to be here. Maybe the mods have the Christmas spirit.


    Keep it up man.. The troll bait has been tried by hateful libs before- I have a DIFFERENT opinion than you. That is all.

    Calling people trolls, following them around the boards to snipe, will get you your own ban...

    Merry Christmas. Christ is Lord.

    We're not discussing opinions; we're discussing facts. Medicaid eligibility is a matter of fact, not opinion. The claim you made about undocumented immigrants having more publicly-funded health services available to them is a matter of fact, not opinion. Just because what you said isn't true doesn't suddenly make it an opinion.

    And you're the one who's following me to other threads trying to bait me - and always threatening people with bans, like you have any control to be making threats. Please. :roll: Leave me alone.
  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    _ wrote:
    The fact is that it can be very difficult for poor people in the United States to get health coverage. It's nearly impossible if you don't have the proper documentation. There is some pretty good coverage for children through Medicaid, but different states have different income requirements for that and many people make too much money for their kids to get Medicaid but not enough money to pay out of pocket for private insurance if their employer doesn't provide it. Even if their employer does provide medical insurance, it can still be very costly and many people still can't afford it. And those who do have private insurance still often have to wait a long time for care and can't ever guarantee that their services will really be covered.
    Thank you. I agree. I'm not sure if by health 'coverage' you are referring to insurance, or federally funded programs, or both. I also think that the current system makes it difficult for I guess what could be called the lower-middle class or the blue-collar workers, for many of the reasons that you mentioned. For example, the parents of the children who receive Medicaid make too much money to get coverage themselves (and I am mostly referring to preventative-type medical care to include dental), but they don't make enough money to tend to themselves adequately, much less be able to afford private insurance. I think that it puts many people in a bad spot. They are only able to go see doctors or dentists when it is absolutely necessary, and at that point oftentimes, I venture to guess, the problems they are having are either worse than they think or lead to the discovery of some underlying serious problem that could have been resolved much more easily had they had preventative care available. By that point, they have no choice but to have something done, and to have to pay for it out of pocket (or for the rest of their lives).
  • This thread has died a death...some good thoughts though! Merry Xmas all! See you in Manchester 20th and 21st June! XXXXXXXXXX
    You can't spend your time alone, re-digesting past regrets - you can't come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself - it makes much more sense to live in the present tense.

    Leeds Festival - 25/08/2006, London O2 - 18/08/2009. London Hyde Park - 25/06/2010...upcoming... Manchester MEN - 20/06/2012, Manchester MEN - 21/06/2012 :)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,192
    This thread has died a death...some good thoughts though! Merry Xmas all! See you in Manchester 20th and 21st June! XXXXXXXXXX

    Healthcare ones typically go down in flames because it's difficult to defend the current system in the U.S. Oddly enough, at the same time, it's difficult to change the current system.

    I guess Mayday tried, but you see how well that worked out.
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