Embarrassment

HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
edited December 2011 in The Porch
I’m probably going to be in trouble for saying this so I apologize to Kat and Sea and the rest of the 10C in advance if I upset anyone. I sincerely hope I don’t get the message board boot for saying so, but I’m tired of biting my tongue and I’m terribly embarrassed. I’m embarrassed by how spoiled, entitled, selfish, and childish a large number of people in this fan club seem to have become.
I fully understand how frustrated people are with the recent pre-sales (especially the Europeans) and I agree that many, if not all of the complaints are 100% justified. There’s really no disputing that things definitely need to be fixed.
But…to have Kelly Curtis take time out of his busy schedule to try and PERSONALLY ADDRESS questions and concerns of 10C members and then proceed to watch many of those members, (not all, but enough) flood the thread with mostly selfish, childish, and wise ass questions and remarks instead of legitimate concerns is completely and totally embarrassing.
“were you aware at Alpine that a secondary company was selling killer VIP tickets 10 Club was unaware about, and then shut down their operation and all who might buy from them----including me.”? …
”Please address why it took more than 24 hours for 10C to issue any sort of statement regarding the ticketing issue. This is a huge point.”?...
“Is the money we give the band annually in dire economic times taken seriously at all? We're not all rock stars....”?
Are you f**king kidding me? It’s a wonder Mr. Curtis didn’t just walk away because bullshit like that doesn’t even deserve a response.
Just trying to read the responses from Kelly was nearly impossible and maybe if he was shown more respect instead of arrogance, he may have addressed a few more concerns.
Instead we got the same mundane pictures of Nickelback and Creed posted in the middle of a thread like that joke would somehow be funnier the 250th time it has been used this week? People were trying to get answers to legitimate questions…save that stuff for another thread.
Some of you sit on here and repeatedly complain about the presales, then you complain about what cities the band is playing, then you complain about not getting tickets, then when you get tickets you complain about the seats. You complain about the shirts, the limited edition items (as if you don’t understand the term “LIMITED EDITION”), your membership numbers, the costs…it never stops and some of you are never, ever happy regardless of what the band or the 10C does. I can’t figure out for the life of me why some of you are even here!
I’ve met some really wonderful people through this club and I have had some amazing experiences courtesy of the hard working (albeit imperfect) staff of the 10C. I sincerely hope that that never changes. But to see people acting like the immature Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber fans who litter facebook pages with death threats any time they are upset, only 3 months after all of the good will and positivity of PJ20 is truly disheartening.
Again, I apologize to the 10C staff if any of this violates message board etiquette, but based on what I’ve read this weak, I don’t see how it could. I’m sorry if this is considered “adding to the negativity”, but some of you really need to grow up, be more respectful, and stop acting like spoiled little children…you know who you are, but I doubt you’re grown up enough to admit it.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Good post. I did post a stupid question to Mr. Curtis and in hindsight probably shouldn't have and you're right. I'm a joking person by nature but it wasn't the right time. Sorry to you and anyone else that feels disrespected. Was not my intention at all. Sorry again.


    David
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    agreed
  • Well put. I avoided the porch this week for this reason. Wayyyyy too much bitching and moaning.
    Just, not enough.
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    I just need it.
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  • pjfan31pjfan31 Posts: 7,335
    :clap::clap::clap:

    What he said...
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    shazaam!!!
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  • Superb post.
  • Hope the OP hasn't heard the Tim Bierman phone interview yet.
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  • some posts were just flatout disrespectful. embarrassment is an understatement
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • joewalshdc wrote:
    Superb post.
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • I concur.
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  • SoybeansSoybeans Posts: 256
    I cringed through most of the Q & A. There should be a separate forum just for bitching so I don't need to see it.

    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.
    90 shows and counting...some of my favs: Randall's Island night 2, Milwaukee '95 night 2, Hawaii '06, St Johns '05, PJ20!
  • Soybeans wrote:
    I cringed through most of the Q & A. There should be a separate forum just for bitching so I don't need to see it.

    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.
    i like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D
  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    DS1119 wrote:
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D
    Smalbany! better than analbany I guess ;)
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • DS1119 wrote:
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D

    that show was effin badass my friends! the first time ive ever gotten blood! i almost shit
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • DS1119 wrote:
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D

    that show was effin badass my friends! the first time ive ever gotten blood! i almost shit
    my buddy got an EV pick for smokin dope out of an apple under his nose. lol.
    and for rockin out hard, i'm sure.
    :D:D:D
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    DS1119 wrote:
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D
    Smalbany! better than analbany I guess ;)


    Which is better than small analbany!
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    DS1119 wrote:
    Soybeans wrote:
    BTW.I heard Ghost from Albany '03 on PJ Radio today. That song is way underrated.


    That show is underrated! Smalbany as a city blows though. I think I may have said that before. :D

    that show was effin badass my friends! the first time ive ever gotten blood! i almost shit


    It was a good one. :D
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    that show was effin badass my friends! the first time ive ever gotten blood! i almost shit
    my buddy got an EV pick for smokin dope out of an apple under his nose. lol.
    and for rockin out hard, i'm sure.
    :D:D:D[/quote]


    8-):mrgreen:
  • Heisenberg wrote:
    I’m probably going to be in trouble for saying this so I apologize to Kat and Sea and the rest of the 10C in advance if I upset anyone. I sincerely hope I don’t get the message board boot for saying so, but I’m tired of biting my tongue and I’m terribly embarrassed. I’m embarrassed by how spoiled, entitled, selfish, and childish a large number of people in this fan club seem to have become.
    I fully understand how frustrated people are with the recent pre-sales (especially the Europeans) and I agree that many, if not all of the complaints are 100% justified. There’s really no disputing that things definitely need to be fixed.
    But…to have Kelly Curtis take time out of his busy schedule to try and PERSONALLY ADDRESS questions and concerns of 10C members and then proceed to watch many of those members, (not all, but enough) flood the thread with mostly selfish, childish, and wise ass questions and remarks instead of legitimate concerns is completely and totally embarrassing.
    “were you aware at Alpine that a secondary company was selling killer VIP tickets 10 Club was unaware about, and then shut down their operation and all who might buy from them----including me.”? …
    ”Please address why it took more than 24 hours for 10C to issue any sort of statement regarding the ticketing issue. This is a huge point.”?...
    “Is the money we give the band annually in dire economic times taken seriously at all? We're not all rock stars....”?
    Are you f**king kidding me? It’s a wonder Mr. Curtis didn’t just walk away because bullshit like that doesn’t even deserve a response.
    Just trying to read the responses from Kelly was nearly impossible and maybe if he was shown more respect instead of arrogance, he may have addressed a few more concerns.
    Instead we got the same mundane pictures of Nickelback and Creed posted in the middle of a thread like that joke would somehow be funnier the 250th time it has been used this week? People were trying to get answers to legitimate questions…save that stuff for another thread.
    Some of you sit on here and repeatedly complain about the presales, then you complain about what cities the band is playing, then you complain about not getting tickets, then when you get tickets you complain about the seats. You complain about the shirts, the limited edition items (as if you don’t understand the term “LIMITED EDITION”), your membership numbers, the costs…it never stops and some of you are never, ever happy regardless of what the band or the 10C does. I can’t figure out for the life of me why some of you are even here!
    I’ve met some really wonderful people through this club and I have had some amazing experiences courtesy of the hard working (albeit imperfect) staff of the 10C. I sincerely hope that that never changes. But to see people acting like the immature Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber fans who litter facebook pages with death threats any time they are upset, only 3 months after all of the good will and positivity of PJ20 is truly disheartening.
    Again, I apologize to the 10C staff if any of this violates message board etiquette, but based on what I’ve read this weak, I don’t see how it could. I’m sorry if this is considered “adding to the negativity”, but some of you really need to grow up, be more respectful, and stop acting like spoiled little children…you know who you are, but I doubt you’re grown up enough to admit it.

    Well said. Thank you, Heisenberg. I completely agree.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Heisenberg hit it ut of the park with this one.

    A big fat LIKE on this thread.
  • nicely put.
    "let me tell you something, if I had this guy's voice you could all kiss my ass"
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Heisenberg wrote:
    I don’t see how it could. I’m sorry if this is considered “adding to the negativity”, but some of you really need to grow up, be more respectful, and stop acting like spoiled little children…you know who you are, but I doubt you’re grown up enough to admit it.

    I agreed with a lot of what you said, to some extent, until that part. You say be respectful, and then call people names in the same sentence.
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  • papa_pearls_jam.pj20papa_pearls_jam.pj20 Chicago USA Posts: 2,142
    I can’t figure out for the life of me why some of you are even here!

    Been trying to figure that out for the short time I've been visiting the forum. Not sure how one calls oneself a fan and then turns the switch in the off direction so quickly.

    Maybe when I've been a Ten Club member long enough, but for now, I'll keep keeping it ALIVE.

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  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    you don't have to apologize to me, most stuff I read from you was pretty cool, both what I agreed and disagred, and mostly the jokes and puns, not at all offensive...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • Great post! Very well said, someone needed to say it!!
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  • Well said.

    My thoughts exactly, you probably agree with my post from last night:

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178982
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,384
    Sawyer wrote:
    agreed

    I'm glad you agree. It seems like much of the op was directed to you.
  • DS1119 wrote:
    Good post. I did post a stupid question to Mr. Curtis and in hindsight probably shouldn't have and you're right. I'm a joking person by nature but it wasn't the right time. Sorry to you and anyone else that feels disrespected. Was not my intention at all. Sorry again.


    David

    Respect! Well played sir :):clap:
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