Also keep in mind that the length of time it was available is irrelevant. The fact that the content was limited is the issue. If it sold out in 3 weeks or 3 minutes only X number of people could have purchased it. If I bought it sometime during those 3 weeks it would have just prevented someone else who did purchase it from getting it. Then they would be here asking for it to be re-released instead of me but the same issue would still remain.
It may be splitting hairs, but it was not "available" in the Goods section for three weeks. It was pre sold. It was sold out several weeks before it was ever released, don't forget that. That to me is a big indicator that the Ten Club badly underestimated demand and should have ordered more right then.
Also, I think it's a bad assumption that the same people who refused to pay the price also now complain that it is no longer available. I remember that I did mention I thought it was too expensive for what one got, but I was still going to buy it. I simply had to wait until payday. By then it was gone. And this was before the release date still.[/quote]
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
My 22 shows:
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Montreal, Toronto
2000 - Montreal, Toronto
2003 - Toronto, Montreal
2004 - Boston I, Boston II
2005 - Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa
2013 - London, Seattle
2016 - Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
Also, I think it's a bad assumption that the same people who refused to pay the price also now complain that it is no longer available. I remember that I did mention I thought it was too expensive for what one got, but I was still going to buy it. I simply had to wait until payday. By then it was gone. And this was before the release date still.
I think the question is. How many more copies could they have sold? With the relatively small run of them, I'm guessing doing a 2nd press would of been even smaller. Maybe demand for several thousand? The artwork and bluray's look fairly custom made. I don't imagine it would be easy or cheap. My best guess...
They most definitely underestimated demand. It's probably more hassle then it's worth to do a 2nd run. We'll never see it.
I do have a proposal though. If my argument is correct. Re-Release in a standard 3disc plastic bluray case with minimal artwork? Sure that and pressing some blurays wouldn't be too hard. I would think the artwork for PJ merch (never being of standard fare) is the toughest part to contend with.
Also, I think it's a bad assumption that the same people who refused to pay the price also now complain that it is no longer available. I remember that I did mention I thought it was too expensive for what one got, but I was still going to buy it. I simply had to wait until payday. By then it was gone. And this was before the release date still.
[/quote]I think the question is. How many more copies could they have sold? With the relatively small run of them, I'm guessing doing a 2nd press would of been even smaller. Maybe demand for several thousand? The artwork and bluray's look fairly custom made. I don't imagine it would be easy or cheap. My best guess...
They most definitely underestimated demand. It's probably more hassle then it's worth to do a 2nd run. We'll never see it.
I do have a proposal though. If my argument is correct. Re-Release in a standard 3disc plastic bluray case with minimal artwork? Sure that and pressing some blurays wouldn't be too hard. I would think the artwork for PJ merch (never being of standard fare) is the toughest part to contend with.[/quote]
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PJ_Soul:
Yeah, I don't care if it comes in used video store cases on completely blank disc faces, frankly. I just want the content!!
Don't forget the DVD!!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not going to be released again. Stop crying. Ten club was not even able to send me a replacement copy after mine showed up broken or damaged
Yeah, but we're assuming they will print a second run, at least a bare bones one, with the bonus features. Not that they still have stock left right now. Could happen! You never know! Thing is, they are losing piles of money by not re-releasing it. I can imagine that someone would take that into account and release something with the bonus material in some form.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Memorial Stadium-October 4, 1996; Riverbend Music Center- August 20, 2000; Post-Gazette Pavilion-September 5, 2000; Verizon Wireless Ampitheatre Charlotte-April 16, 2003; US Bank Arena-June 24, 2006; Scottrade Center-May 4, 2010; Consol Energy Center-October 11, 2013(On the Rail!); Time Warner Cable Arena-October 30, 2013
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It may be splitting hairs, but it was not "available" in the Goods section for three weeks. It was pre sold. It was sold out several weeks before it was ever released, don't forget that. That to me is a big indicator that the Ten Club badly underestimated demand and should have ordered more right then.
Also, I think it's a bad assumption that the same people who refused to pay the price also now complain that it is no longer available. I remember that I did mention I thought it was too expensive for what one got, but I was still going to buy it. I simply had to wait until payday. By then it was gone. And this was before the release date still.[/quote]
Keep it going...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
BERN, SWITZERLAND - 13 SEP 06 // PORTLAND - 26 SEP 09 // CHICAGO - 19 JUL 13 // PORTLAND - 29 NOV 13
CHICAGO - 20 AUG 16 // CHICAGO - 22 AUG 16 // PHOENIX - 09 MAY 22 // CHICAGO - 05 SEP 23 // CHICAGO - 07 SEP 23
come on guys, re-stock, please!
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Montreal, Toronto
2000 - Montreal, Toronto
2003 - Toronto, Montreal
2004 - Boston I, Boston II
2005 - Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa
2013 - London, Seattle
2016 - Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
I think the question is. How many more copies could they have sold? With the relatively small run of them, I'm guessing doing a 2nd press would of been even smaller. Maybe demand for several thousand? The artwork and bluray's look fairly custom made. I don't imagine it would be easy or cheap. My best guess...
They most definitely underestimated demand. It's probably more hassle then it's worth to do a 2nd run. We'll never see it.
I do have a proposal though. If my argument is correct. Re-Release in a standard 3disc plastic bluray case with minimal artwork? Sure that and pressing some blurays wouldn't be too hard. I would think the artwork for PJ merch (never being of standard fare) is the toughest part to contend with.
[/quote]I think the question is. How many more copies could they have sold? With the relatively small run of them, I'm guessing doing a 2nd press would of been even smaller. Maybe demand for several thousand? The artwork and bluray's look fairly custom made. I don't imagine it would be easy or cheap. My best guess...
They most definitely underestimated demand. It's probably more hassle then it's worth to do a 2nd run. We'll never see it.
I do have a proposal though. If my argument is correct. Re-Release in a standard 3disc plastic bluray case with minimal artwork? Sure that and pressing some blurays wouldn't be too hard. I would think the artwork for PJ merch (never being of standard fare) is the toughest part to contend with.[/quote]
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PJ_Soul:
Yeah, I don't care if it comes in used video store cases on completely blank disc faces, frankly. I just want the content!!
Don't forget the DVD!!
Redigested past regrets
I see things clearer
Sucks to that. Bump! :wave:
BERN, SWITZERLAND - 13 SEP 06 // PORTLAND - 26 SEP 09 // CHICAGO - 19 JUL 13 // PORTLAND - 29 NOV 13
CHICAGO - 20 AUG 16 // CHICAGO - 22 AUG 16 // PHOENIX - 09 MAY 22 // CHICAGO - 05 SEP 23 // CHICAGO - 07 SEP 23
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And the thousand that were lost in mail didnt get replaced either. Even a better reason to re issue
BERN, SWITZERLAND - 13 SEP 06 // PORTLAND - 26 SEP 09 // CHICAGO - 19 JUL 13 // PORTLAND - 29 NOV 13
CHICAGO - 20 AUG 16 // CHICAGO - 22 AUG 16 // PHOENIX - 09 MAY 22 // CHICAGO - 05 SEP 23 // CHICAGO - 07 SEP 23
yup, they did. And mine was one of them. BUMP!
This gives me hope too.
BERN, SWITZERLAND - 13 SEP 06 // PORTLAND - 26 SEP 09 // CHICAGO - 19 JUL 13 // PORTLAND - 29 NOV 13
CHICAGO - 20 AUG 16 // CHICAGO - 22 AUG 16 // PHOENIX - 09 MAY 22 // CHICAGO - 05 SEP 23 // CHICAGO - 07 SEP 23