***Petition for 10c to re-stock PJ20 Blu Ray***

skanji32

Viva La Weiner wrote:

If I missed this idea please disregard.

Has anyone thought about taking this petition to Mike via Twitter? It seems that he is the most accessible member of the band and might be able to help. Just a thought...

I tweeted Mike and Cameron Crowe a couple of times over the last month about this.

jonbond1779

I know I started this petition but Id be so pissed if 10c did re-stock the Blu-Ray purely because I splashed out on the DVD box set after the blu rays went out of stock!

Sweet Oblivion

jonbond1779 wrote:

I know I started this petition but Id be so pissed if 10c did re-stock the Blu-Ray purely because I splashed out on the DVD box set after the blu rays went out of stock!

I wouldn't worry about that too much. I'd say the chances are slim of another printing. And if there is, I'm sure you'll be able to offload your DVD copy fairly quickly.

hostis

skanji32 wrote:

Sweet Oblivion wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

nothing yet?

Nope. I don't know what's more disappointing - not getting it or the lack of acknowledgement from the club on this matter.

The lack of acknowledgement. In my 15 years with Ten Club, I've never been this peeved.

Our only hope is through Cameron Crowe.

they have acknowledged? they said x amount were made. x amount were sold. how is that not an acknowledgement?

(so wish I was allowed to drop bombs on this. its becoming a joke)

skanji32

hostis wrote:

they have acknowledged? they said x amount were made. x amount were sold. how is that not an acknowledgement?

(so wish I was allowed to drop bombs on this. its becoming a joke)

So then why allow this petition to continue?

What about the acknowledgement from 10c that more should have been made?

What about the acknowledgement from 10c that this should have never been made a LE set?

What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand?

What about the acknowledgement that if no other options exists to purchase for 10c members, that fans can go and trade the set freely?

Again, why this pisses so many of you off who don't believe in the cause continues to surprise and amaze me. But i'm sure we amuse you as much as you amuse us...

Sweet Oblivion

skanji32 wrote:

hostis wrote:

they have acknowledged? they said x amount were made. x amount were sold. how is that not an acknowledgement?

(so wish I was allowed to drop bombs on this. its becoming a joke)

So then why allow this petition to continue?

What about the acknowledgement from 10c that more should have been made?

What about the acknowledgement from 10c that this should have never been made a LE set?

What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand?

What about the acknowledgement that if no other options exists to purchase for 10c members, that fans can go and trade the set freely?

Again, why this pisses so many of you off who don't believe in the cause continues to surprise and amaze me. But i'm sure we amuse you as much as you amuse us...

Exactly! Great points made.

hostis

So then why allow this petition to continue? - its easier to keep one big thread than 500 small annoying ones
What about the acknowledgement from 10c that more should have been made? - they said x amount were made and x amount sold
What about the acknowledgement from 10c that this should have never been made a LE set? - they said the band requested it to be limited edition
What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand? - the bluray disc can be purchased from best buy
What about the acknowledgement that if no other options exists to purchase for 10c members, that fans can go and trade the set freely? - you can trade in lost dogs. "You can trade and set a reasonable price here for Pearl Jam memorabilia as long as the item is not available elsewhere on the site. No flipping* posters, or selling illegal items such as illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, homemade CDs and DVDs, items purchased marked "not for resale", etc."

skanji32

hostis wrote:

So then why allow this petition to continue? - its easier to keep one big thread than 500 small annoying ones
What about the acknowledgement from 10c that more should have been made? - they said x amount were made and x amount sold
What about the acknowledgement from 10c that this should have never been made a LE set? - they said the band requested it to be limited edition
What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand? - the bluray disc can be purchased from best buy
What about the acknowledgement that if no other options exists to purchase for 10c members, that fans can go and trade the set freely? - you can trade in lost dogs. "You can trade and set a reasonable price here for Pearl Jam memorabilia as long as the item is not available elsewhere on the site. No flipping* posters, or selling illegal items such as illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, homemade CDs and DVDs, items purchased marked "not for resale", etc."

The LE BluRay including the 3rd disc cannot be purchased and is at the root of this issue - please stay informed.

Not to start a further argument as I agree with Kat on this once I was informed, however I received a warning a couple of weeks ago regarding copying the bluray:

The following is a warning which has been issued to you by an administrator or moderator of this site.
This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: viewtopic.php?f=4&p=3991168#p3991168 .

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If anyone can rip the BluRay, I'll pay what it cost you.

I liken this to sharing tapes in the good ol days, except wait...you could actually buy tapes in stores.

Now that the 3 BluRays are sold out, I'm game to buy since I have no other option to get the 3 BluRays.

Please PM me directly. Again, really interested in a BluRay of the 3 discs.endquote

****Encouraging bootlegging is not ok. See Posting Guidelines.****

hostis

skanji32 wrote:

The LE BluRay including the 3rd disc cannot be purchased and is at the root of this issue - please stay informed.

LIMITED EDITION.

skanji32

hostis wrote:

skanji32 wrote:

The LE BluRay including the 3rd disc cannot be purchased and is at the root of this issue - please stay informed.

LIMITED EDITION.

...and therein lies the problem with your solution:
What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand? - the bluray disc can be purchased from best buy

...not a solution.

So we can't buy the LE, can't copy the LE, can't trade the LE....see the problem here?

hostis

skanji32 wrote:

...and therein lies the problem with your solution:
What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand? - the bluray disc can be purchased from best buy

...not a solution.

So we can't buy the LE, can't copy the LE, can't trade the LE....see the problem here?

where theres a will theres a way.

skanji32

hostis wrote:

skanji32 wrote:

...and therein lies the problem with your solution:
What about the acknowledgement that alternate solutions are being met to meet the demand? - the bluray disc can be purchased from best buy

...not a solution.

So we can't buy the LE, can't copy the LE, can't trade the LE....see the problem here?

where theres a will theres a way.

no question - agreed there. I guess my point is, I want 10c to understand and recognize the situation that so many members that have signed this petition are in.

If 10c was in our position who missed out, what would they do? Chalk it up to bad timing and move on even though this is the definitive visual history of the band on 3 discs? Would they submit to not copying the discs (which, having received the warning will definitely adhere to)? Or would they continue to make their voices heard?

It goes back to my original point - an acknowledgement of our frustrations would be nice. Even acknoledgement that Cameron Crowe is looking into this matter (which we know for a fact he is), would alleviate so much frustration with the 10c around these parts.

PRSNT10S

SIGNED! I WANT A COPY!!!

ME91059

Oooooh. I know how to ease all the disgruntled fans that missed out on the LE box sets..... Update the News with an awesome version of Not for you. Just so we know exactly what we missed out on!

How about the next new News Item;

A MESSAGE FROM 10C, PEARL JAM AND EVERYONE WHO PURCHASED THE KIDS ARE TWENTY

10.26.11

.....Suck Eggs!

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I am still so angry about this!!!!!!!

theanswersarefatal

theanswersarefatal wrote:

Is it true that anyone and their grandmother could have ordered these Limited Edition sets? (And was there a cap on the quantity ordered?)

If so, they should have initially been made available only to Ten Club members, as a pre-sale opportunity. Then maybe after the official release, the product would be opened up to the general public.

I mean, the major reason to be a part of any fanclub is for the perks...the most up-to-date info on the band, pre-sale tickets & merch, and the possibility of the best seats in the house. But if the club is going to start opening up the good stuff to the general public, then that lessens the exclusivity of being in the club.

It's honestly pretty sad that enough of these sets weren't produced so that someone who would need to wait until the next pay period wouldn't have a chance in hell to get one.

Guess I'll be scoping out ebay everyday for now...i'm sure some non-fan "Top Rated Seller" is drooling over the dough they're gonna get from a true fan. :roll:

Sweet Oblivion wrote:

That is true. No limit to how many ordered and not limited to just club members. This is allowed to happen yet when people order more than one white Backspacer, their order is cancelled. I'm not saying that multiple orders of the LE should be cancelled (cause some members do purchase for gifts/friends and not for scalping purposes) but there should at least be some consistency with the way the goods section is run.

Plus, you're dead on about the "perks" with the club. What's the point in paying membership fees when most of the stuff can be bought without being a member? And we all know the ticket presales are useless these days anyway so it really makes you think why bother.

Glad someone agrees with me.

theanswersarefatal

theanswersarefatal wrote:

Is it true that anyone and their grandmother could have ordered these Limited Edition sets? (And was there a cap on the quantity ordered?)

If so, they should have initially been made available only to Ten Club members, as a pre-sale opportunity. Then maybe after the official release, the product would be opened up to the general public.

I mean, the major reason to be a part of any fanclub is for the perks...the most up-to-date info on the band, pre-sale tickets & merch, and the possibility of the best seats in the house. But if the club is going to start opening up the good stuff to the general public, then that lessens the exclusivity of being in the club.

It's honestly pretty sad that enough of these sets weren't produced so that someone who would need to wait until the next pay period wouldn't have a chance in hell to get one.

Guess I'll be scoping out ebay everyday for now...i'm sure some non-fan "Top Rated Seller" is drooling over the dough they're gonna get from a true fan. :roll:

Sweet Oblivion wrote:

That is true. No limit to how many ordered and not limited to just club members. This is allowed to happen yet when people order more than one white Backspacer, their order is cancelled. I'm not saying that multiple orders of the LE should be cancelled (cause some members do purchase for gifts/friends and not for scalping purposes) but there should at least be some consistency with the way the goods section is run.

Plus, you're dead on about the "perks" with the club. What's the point in paying membership fees when most of the stuff can be bought without being a member? And we all know the ticket presales are useless these days anyway so it really makes you think why bother.

Jeff side wrote:

If you don't like the "perks" that your $20/$40 gets you, don't renew!!
And put that extra money towards buying a deluxe edition on the secondary market.

In all the years I've been buying tickets, I've never been shut out through Ten Club.
It's not easy by any means but it's far from "useless".

Speaking for myself, I do like the perks. What I don't like is them being indirectly given to non-members. And in all the years I've been buying tickets, I've also never been shut out through the Ten Club. I love the Ten Club. I ordered a sticker once and they sent me three. They answer my emails in a day. But we're not talking about tickets or stickers or emails here. We're talking about a Limited Edition set being offered to non-members w/no cap on the quantity ordered, thereby reducing members' chance at getting one, which makes great business sense but in terms of servicing the true fans doesn't make much sense to me or most of the people posting here. The point is that in this merchandising venture, the members of the club were not put first, and that's a huge drag.

VedHead2

I want one!!

EGrover88

Signed

smoke20

sell more for gods sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aus_suz

jonbond1779 wrote:

I know I started this petition but Id be so pissed if 10c did re-stock the Blu-Ray purely because I splashed out on the DVD box set after the blu rays went out of stock!

Im sure u wouldnt have trouble selling it at face..