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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    And is there anywhere more white than Utah? Certainly not Tampa which is very diverse.  But I'm sure you know all about it since you saw a guy wearing a pink polo at the rink or something. 
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,659
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    tampa?

    RED necks, WHITE people and BLUE hairs?

    utah, well at least salt lake, might surprise you.
    Yes the conservative LDS values embedded in the laws is right up my alley. 
    that’s true. Fight the power!
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    Wobbie said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    tampa?

    RED necks, WHITE people and BLUE hairs?

    utah, well at least salt lake, might surprise you.
    Yes the conservative LDS values embedded in the laws is right up my alley. 
    that’s true. Fight the power!
    Che Wobbie
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    FiveBelowFiveBelow Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,218
    mrussel1 said:
    And is there anywhere more white than Utah? Certainly not Tampa which is very diverse.  But I'm sure you know all about it since you saw a guy wearing a pink polo at the rink or something. 
    The majority of New England.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,973
    Wobbie said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    tampa?

    RED necks, WHITE people and BLUE hairs?

    utah, well at least salt lake, might surprise you.
    Yes the conservative LDS values embedded in the laws is right up my alley. 
    that’s true. Fight the power!
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Fleury’s 1st ever Vezina…
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    Fleury’s 1st ever Vezina…
    His numbers were good but I thought Vasy would take it. 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Fleury’s 1st ever Vezina…
    His numbers were good but I thought Vasy would take it. 
    I think most of these awards are subjective…the only award I’m certain of that went to the right player is the hart…McDavid was incredible this year…
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Adam Fox had a helluva season. Nice to see him get the Norris.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    mrussel1 said:
    Fleury’s 1st ever Vezina…
    His numbers were good but I thought Vasy would take it. 
    I think most of these awards are subjective…the only award I’m certain of that went to the right player is the hart…McDavid was incredible this year…
    No doubt.  No surprise. 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Is the NHL the only league that allows trades and talking to potential free agents while the playoffs are still happening…how is this fair to the playoff teams?  
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
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    I love this trade for the Kings.
    In great position with the deepest farm system and huge salary cap flexibility combined with tyge expansion draft coming up to make some truly one sided deals.
    Hope they can get two-three-four deals like this done to go with the youth movement and the few vets left.

    Boo-hoo for the teams in the finals.  :lol:.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    This may come as a surprise but I really don’t care about your kings…I’ll leave that to the 20 or 30 fans they have…hehehe
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,802
    They do fine for fans.  Watched them raise two cups since you beat them almost 30 years ago.  How many have you watched the Habs raise since then?
    None.

    Glory days are deep (deep!) in the rearview.

    I hope the Habs raise one this year, though, and their fam base can celebrate after the long wait.

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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,373
    Is the NHL the only league that allows trades and talking to potential free agents while the playoffs are still happening…how is this fair to the playoff teams?  
    Trades can happen in NBA (Celtics traded Kemba Walker to OKC a few weeks ago for Al Horford), but not free agent negotiations.
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Poncier said:
    Is the NHL the only league that allows trades and talking to potential free agents while the playoffs are still happening…how is this fair to the playoff teams?  
    Trades can happen in NBA (Celtics traded Kemba Walker to OKC a few weeks ago for Al Horford), but not free agent negotiations.
    That makes sense…both the nhl and nba are bush leagues and the nhl commissioner is an NBA reject…

    Both leagues should have dates set aside when trades can take place…once the trade deadline ends, then no transactions should take place until the playoffs are completed…

    Dougie Hamilton has permission to seek a new team…assuming it’d be a trade and sign type of deal…love to see him in Montreal…

    your in Boston?  Are the Bruins going to  be able to sign Hall.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,373
    Poncier said:
    Is the NHL the only league that allows trades and talking to potential free agents while the playoffs are still happening…how is this fair to the playoff teams?  
    Trades can happen in NBA (Celtics traded Kemba Walker to OKC a few weeks ago for Al Horford), but not free agent negotiations.


    your in Boston?  Are the Bruins going to  be able to sign Hall.
    Hall claims he wants to stay and said he's not seeking to break the bank on contract. (Rumors were he vetoed some other trade destinations out of Buffalo and forced his way to Boston, hence the relatively low return Sabres got.)
    So its a matter of dollars, if he is willing to take something like 5.5M to 6M per year then I think he is back wearing a spoked B.
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Is the NHL the only league that allows trades and talking to potential free agents while the playoffs are still happening…how is this fair to the playoff teams?  
    Trades can happen in NBA (Celtics traded Kemba Walker to OKC a few weeks ago for Al Horford), but not free agent negotiations.


    your in Boston?  Are the Bruins going to  be able to sign Hall.
    Hall claims he wants to stay and said he's not seeking to break the bank on contract. (Rumors were he vetoed some other trade destinations out of Buffalo and forced his way to Boston, hence the relatively low return Sabres got.)
    So its a matter of dollars, if he is willing to take something like 5.5M to 6M per year then I think he is back wearing a spoked B.
    Good for Boston.  I live 30 minutes from where Hall played junior, watched him lead Windsor to a couple of memorial cup championships…I always liked Hall.  I know at one time Montreal was on his list, he grew up in a Kingston and thats not to far from montreal…good for the bruins…and good for hall…
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,973
    Embarrassing!
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    ^^^this

    congrats Tampa.  Montreal doesn’t deserve a 4th game.  The same problems from the regular season appeared in the finals…it’s called being LAZY.

    Let’s never do these lousy divisions again because the fans deserve better than this.

    @mrussel1 congrats and enjoy the cup.

    Montreal needs to part ways with Weber and Price…you can not pay guys who are well past their prime 8 and 10 million a year in a salary cap.

    Toronto and Winnipeg and the North division teams really were not good and Vegas was extremely over rated.  Tampa is not.

    I have seen some in the news in Montreal complaining about Tampa over the cap…I was one early on until I discovered that a vote was held a few years back and Montreal voted to keep the loophole and Tampa voted to get rid the loophole…so Montreal is kind of stupid…if you want the loophole, then use it…this year they could have left Weber, price and Gallagher on LTIR and brought in 3 quality players at the deadline…

    I’m willing to bet the loophole will be voted out soon though…







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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    ^^^this

    congrats Tampa.  Montreal doesn’t deserve a 4th game.  The same problems from the regular season appeared in the finals…it’s called being LAZY.

    Let’s never do these lousy divisions again because the fans deserve better than this.

    @mrussel1 congrats and enjoy the cup.

    Montreal needs to part ways with Weber and Price…you can not pay guys who are well past their prime 8 and 10 million a year in a salary cap.

    Toronto and Winnipeg and the North division teams really were not good and Vegas was extremely over rated.  Tampa is not.

    I have seen some in the news in Montreal complaining about Tampa over the cap…I was one early on until I discovered that a vote was held a few years back and Montreal voted to keep the loophole and Tampa voted to get rid the loophole…so Montreal is kind of stupid…if you want the loophole, then use it…this year they could have left Weber, price and Gallagher on LTIR and brought in 3 quality players at the deadline…

    I’m willing to bet the loophole will be voted out soon though…







    The thing about the loophole is that it's meant to be legit.  I don't know all the details, but the league evaluated Kucherov and his medical information and determined that the recovery for the hip surgery was in line with expectations.  So the manipulation is that Tampa scheduled the surgery to coordinate well with a typical recovery, being ready right for the playoffs.  In a normal length season, I don't think this could have been done.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I don’t think I ever question wether Tampa did anything shady with Kutcherov…Montreal has 3 legit players that they could have put on LTIR and brought in quality players at the deadline and the assets to make those transactions.  Montreal choose not to.  This is on their GM…who I don’t really like…and kudos for Tampa exploiting  the loophole…maybe the Montreal owner will wake up a realize Bergeron is really bad at his job.  Well deserved Tampa…

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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I will say this…I know Tampa was favoured to win the cup for a few years before they won it.  It’s now up to Montreal to strengthen the roster around Suzuki, Caufield, KK AND Romanov…and get better…those young guys have gained a world of experience…
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    I don’t think I ever question wether Tampa did anything shady with Kutcherov…Montreal has 3 legit players that they could have put on LTIR and brought in quality players at the deadline and the assets to make those transactions.  Montreal choose not to.  This is on their GM…who I don’t really like…and kudos for Tampa exploiting  the loophole…maybe the Montreal owner will wake up a realize Bergeron is really bad at his job.  Well deserved Tampa…

    Ah okay. I've heard people complaining that he wasn't really injured, or he was ready 5 weeks before the playoffs started and the like.  None of that is true. Clever scheduling is the manipulation, if anything.  And yes to your point earlier, the loophole was known, evaluated and approved by the teams. 

    I've read some Habs people really complaining that Romanov was in the lineup at all.  

    And yeah, it obviously took the Lightning a few years to figure it out.  They shed some skill players and picked up grit with Maroon, Coleman and Goodrow.  These are the guys that made the difference in the locker room and against teams like the Islanders that would lean too hard on the skill lines.  Can't do that to the Lightning anymore.  
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
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    Sweep the Habs!

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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    I don’t think I ever question wether Tampa did anything shady with Kutcherov…Montreal has 3 legit players that they could have put on LTIR and brought in quality players at the deadline and the assets to make those transactions.  Montreal choose not to.  This is on their GM…who I don’t really like…and kudos for Tampa exploiting  the loophole…maybe the Montreal owner will wake up a realize Bergeron is really bad at his job.  Well deserved Tampa…

    Ah okay. I've heard people complaining that he wasn't really injured, or he was ready 5 weeks before the playoffs started and the like.  None of that is true. Clever scheduling is the manipulation, if anything.  And yes to your point earlier, the loophole was known, evaluated and approved by the teams. 

    I've read some Habs people really complaining that Romanov was in the lineup at all.  

    And yeah, it obviously took the Lightning a few years to figure it out.  They shed some skill players and picked up grit with Maroon, Coleman and Goodrow.  These are the guys that made the difference in the locker room and against teams like the Islanders that would lean too hard on the skill lines.  Can't do that to the Lightning anymore.  
    Yes, I was one who wanted Romanov playing.  He’s a physical d man who could of helped.  I didn’t even know Kutcherov was out for the season.  I’m strictly a playoff hockey fan The NHL season is too long and their are to many teams, so I start paying attention come playoff time…I’m probably one of the few Canucks who prefer the NFL over the NHL…by a wide margin.
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    YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    FiveBelow said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And is there anywhere more white than Utah? Certainly not Tampa which is very diverse.  But I'm sure you know all about it since you saw a guy wearing a pink polo at the rink or something. 
    The majority of New England.
    Nope.  Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire are more white than Utah.
    Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island are less white than Utah.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    I just read that a team in the ECHL had 3x as many fans in attendance in their Finals game last Friday as the Habs could allow into their arena last Friday ... politics aside, that is a huge advantage that Montreal is missing.
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It would have been nice to see more people in the building…but Montreal is overmatched.  The only chance they had is if Price continued to come up big…
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