Occupy Wall Street and police brutality

aerial

There were at least 1 million people in Washington at the Tea Party 9/12 protest(if not a million close to it) way more people than at this protest. Not one violent act occured! The police do not attack for no reason. This tape was edited. I'm not saying police are not sometimes assholes.

cincybearcat

Jeanwah wrote:

Just to let you guys know what's going on, protesters shut down the Brooklyn Bridge now.

What's the purpose of this exactly?

Jeanwah

aerial wrote:

There were at least 1 million people in Washington at the Tea Party 9/12 protest(if not a million close to it) way more people than at this protest. Not one violent act occured! The police do not attack for no reason. This tape was edited. I'm not saying police are not sometimes assholes.

I bet you still didn't even watch it.

Jeanwah

cincybearcat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Just to let you guys know what's going on, protesters shut down the Brooklyn Bridge now.

What's the purpose of this exactly?

To update on my OP.

cincybearcat

Jeanwah wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Just to let you guys know what's going on, protesters shut down the Brooklyn Bridge now.

What's the purpose of this exactly?

To update on my OP.

No, I meant why shut down the Brooklyn bridge.

EdsonNascimento

cincybearcat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

What's the purpose of this exactly?

To update on my OP.

No, I meant why shut down the Brooklyn bridge.

pandora

brandon10 wrote:

For those that know what the Tea Party is all about........A movement of millions of white Americans from Christian backgrounds and the Republican party. Tea Party members share similar core principles and beliefs that have nothing to do with the United States constitution or the founders, such as:
* You will never get my guns
* Make abortion illegal
* Keep the war machine rolling
* Don't bother trying to keep our people healthy
* Get that blackie out of the white house

Wow that is soooo wrong I don't know what to say! You must be joking right? :?


that's it! I get it ....

brianlux

cincybearcat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Just to let you guys know what's going on, protesters shut down the Brooklyn Bridge now.

To update on my OP.

No, I meant why shut down the Brooklyn bridge.

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Not to be answering for Jeanwah, but here's how Daniel Mintz of MoveOn.org succinctly put it:

"What do the protesters want? A solution to the jobs crisis, corporate money out of politics, fairer tax rates, and policies that work for 99% of Americans instead of the 1% at the top."

Go Beavers

aerial wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

Fighting for handouts like the Tea People do?

Maybe 'fighting' is the wrong word. The Tea People want all their government programs without having to pay for them.

Why do you make up lies?

Then please tell me what services they want cut, because they also want tax cuts, right? Doesn't the tea stand for taxed enough already?

It's sad in a way to see a large group of people be manipulated by fear and creation of a false enemy. It makes sense, aerial, that you would support them, given your earlier post about Asians creating an economic problem for you. The message from the tea party is that problems are a result of these groups in the country, and that "we need to take our country back!". Didn't anyone ask who we need to take it back from? What did they take, anyway?

Things were/are probably uncertain and scary for you, and that opens the door. My take is that you were succeptable to the tea people's message because it's fear driven and creates an enemy in the big bad government and that socialist Obama. People find a certain comfort from their uncertainty if they're given an answer to their problems. Too bad it's not a real answer. There's still time, don't get sucked into the dark side!!

cincybearcat

brianlux wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Just to let you guys know what's going on, protesters shut down the Brooklyn Bridge now.

To update on my OP.

No, I meant why shut down the Brooklyn bridge.

Not to be answering for Jeanwah, but here's how Daniel Mintz of MoveOn.org succinctly put it:

"What do the protesters want? A solution to the jobs crisis, corporate money out of politics, fairer tax rates, and policies that work for 99% of Americans instead of the 1% at the top."[/quote]


Oh, so that's why they shut down a bridge. Great job asshats. If I was trying to get home it would make me more likely to run them over than to support the cause.

Perhaps you are missing my point.

vomikus39

Great qoutes Gimmesometruth!!!

Anyway, I live in NYC, stay off the BK Br roadway so I can get to work....

I like what these people stand for, am ashamed I am not there with them...

As far as Police brutality.....every job, every group, have bad apples....

You never hear about the good cops do, and there are thousands of great cops...

Realize cops put up with SOOOO MUCH Bullshit, it's inconceivable. Especially in this rotten town. Of course that doesn't excuse police brutality, but give the good ones a break...

And this is from a fireman

Byrnzie

aerial wrote:

The police are not going to attack unless they are provoked.

Yeah, sure.

RFTC

pandora wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

For those that know what the Tea Party is all about........A movement of millions of white Americans from Christian backgrounds and the Republican party. Tea Party members share similar core principles and beliefs that have nothing to do with the United States constitution or the founders, such as:
* You will never get my guns
* Make abortion illegal
* Keep the war machine rolling
* Don't bother trying to keep our people healthy
* Get that blackie out of the white house

Wow that is soooo wrong I don't know what to say! You must be joking right? :?


that's it! I get it ....

dont think he was joking, hell, harris interactive released a poll last year where the following % of republicans believe to be true:

57% think obama is muslim
45% still think he was not born here
24% think he MAY be the antichrist

now poll #'s can be skewed based on how question was posed, etc. but these sort of responses over the course of the last 3 years have been consistent in the far right's goal to deligitimize and demonize our president.

brianlux

cincybearcat wrote:

Oh, so that's why they shut down a bridge. Great job asshats. If I was trying to get home it would make me more likely to run them over than to support the cause.

Perhaps you are missing my point.

Missing your point- maybe so- that's what I get for answering for somebody else!

Civil disobedience is about being heard. Most protests today go unnoticed unless they are very disruptive. 10 to 1 says any involvement I've had in trying to raise awareness about global warming for example (criminies- I'm gonna get accused once again of trying to derail a thread and divide the USA) will be noticed far less than the actions of the OWS'ers. That protesters have to go to those exteems to be heard at all is rather a shame I'd say- much more so than the inconvenience of some commuters (besides, why aren't they taking the train, I ask?).

pandora

RFTC wrote:

pandora wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

For those that know what the Tea Party is all about........A movement of millions of white Americans from Christian backgrounds and the Republican party. Tea Party members share similar core principles and beliefs that have nothing to do with the United States constitution or the founders, such as:
* You will never get my guns
* Make abortion illegal
* Keep the war machine rolling
* Don't bother trying to keep our people healthy
* Get that blackie out of the white house

Wow that is soooo wrong I don't know what to say! You must be joking right? :?


that's it! I get it ....

dont think he was joking, hell, harris interactive released a poll last year where the following % of republicans believe to be true:

57% think obama is muslim
45% still think he was not born here
24% think he MAY be the antichrist

now poll #'s can be skewed based on how question was posed, etc. but these sort of responses over the course of the last 3 years have been consistent in the far right's goal to deligitimize and demonize our president.

not charismatic enough to be the AntiChrist

the AntiChrist would appear with a new form of government
which isn't a bad idea

the other two points I can see the misinformed might think he is muslim
and not being born here...lots of controversy or at the least publicity with that...
sometimes that is all some need to think it true

lots of people are busy in their lives with politics being the last of their interests
and besides both sides are incredibly disappointing

cincybearcat

RFTC wrote:

24% think he MAY be the antichrist

What the hell is wrong with the other 76%?????? Haven't they been paying attention!!!!!

Jeanwah

brianlux wrote:

Missing your point- maybe so- that's what I get for answering for somebody else!

Civil disobedience is about being heard. Most protests today go unnoticed unless they are very disruptive. 10 to 1 says any involvement I've had in trying to raise awareness about global warming for example (criminies- I'm gonna get accused once again of trying to derail a thread and divide the USA) will be noticed far less than the actions of the OWS'ers. That protesters have to go to those exteems to be heard at all is rather a shame I'd say- much more so than the inconvenience of some commuters (besides, why aren't they taking the train, I ask?).

Thanks Brian. That answer is quite good enough to explain why shutting down a bridge to get a point across is more important that anyone worrying about their stupid commute.

EdsonNascimento

Jeanwah wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Missing your point- maybe so- that's what I get for answering for somebody else!

Civil disobedience is about being heard. Most protests today go unnoticed unless they are very disruptive. 10 to 1 says any involvement I've had in trying to raise awareness about global warming for example (criminies- I'm gonna get accused once again of trying to derail a thread and divide the USA) will be noticed far less than the actions of the OWS'ers. That protesters have to go to those exteems to be heard at all is rather a shame I'd say- much more so than the inconvenience of some commuters (besides, why aren't they taking the train, I ask?).

Thanks Brian. That answer is quite good enough to explain why shutting down a bridge to get a point across is more important that anyone worrying about their stupid commute.

So every time I have a complaint, I have the right to disrupt other people's lives? Sorry. Their issues are not more important than mine. Get a permit if you want to do it, so there is proper preparations. Which is what they are actually doing now. They deservered to be arrested and if they resisted, proper force should be used to remove them.

We do not hold the right to disrupt other people's lives.

cincybearcat

Jeanwah wrote:

brianlux wrote:

Missing your point- maybe so- that's what I get for answering for somebody else!

Civil disobedience is about being heard. Most protests today go unnoticed unless they are very disruptive. 10 to 1 says any involvement I've had in trying to raise awareness about global warming for example (criminies- I'm gonna get accused once again of trying to derail a thread and divide the USA) will be noticed far less than the actions of the OWS'ers. That protesters have to go to those exteems to be heard at all is rather a shame I'd say- much more so than the inconvenience of some commuters (besides, why aren't they taking the train, I ask?).

Thanks Brian. That answer is quite good enough to explain why shutting down a bridge to get a point across is more important that anyone worrying about their stupid commute.

Well, not really. But I appreciate the effort. I still think it's pretty lame.

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento wrote:

So every time I have a complaint, I have the right to disrupt other people's lives? Sorry. Their issues are not more important than mine. Get a permit if you want to do it, so there is proper preparations. Which is what they are actually doing now. They deservered to be arrested and if they resisted, proper force should be used to remove them.

We do not hold the right to disrupt other people's lives.

i somehow doubt you and others would be singing the same tune if it were a movement that you were passionate about and agreed with.