The Death Penalty

Meltdown99

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

Maybe when they end solitary confinement, the correctional staff can give the inmates foot massages at the end of the day...or some of you soft on murders could volunteer to give them foot massages...

Just curious - do you read at all what other people post? 

Do you ever get tired of being bleeding heart for losers...

It can get a little tiring, having compassion and a respect for facts, but I think it's the right thing to do.

Do you ever get tired living in hyperbole?

Have you ever listened to the victims of violent crime?  Or are you to busy virtue signaling, supporting the coddling of criminals.  If you DON"T like my opinions dont't respond.  Have you ever noticed I hardly ever respond to the shit you spew, nope...your bleeding heart opinion on criminals, prisoners mean nothing to me?  Do yourself a favour, save some keystrokes...I support capital punishment in the case of Paul Bernardo and his type.  I have sympathy for victims of violent crime and would never support a soft on crime agenda you liberals love...

oftenreading

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

Maybe when they end solitary confinement, the correctional staff can give the inmates foot massages at the end of the day...or some of you soft on murders could volunteer to give them foot massages...

Just curious - do you read at all what other people post? 

Do you ever get tired of being bleeding heart for losers...

It can get a little tiring, having compassion and a respect for facts, but I think it's the right thing to do.

Do you ever get tired living in hyperbole?

Have you ever listened to the victims of violent crime?  Or are you to busy virtue signaling, supporting the coddling of criminals.  If you DON"T like my opinions dont't respond.  Have you ever noticed I hardly ever respond to the shit you spew, nope...your bleeding heart opinion on criminals, prisoners mean nothing to me?  Do yourself a favour, save some keystrokes...I support capital punishment in the case of Paul Bernardo and his type.  I have sympathy for victims of violent crime and would never support a soft on crime agenda you liberals love...

My goodness, there's a whole lot of responding for someone who doesn't respond. And you got all the buzz words in, too.

Since I've worked in the criminal justice system for almost 15 years, I'd say I've spoken a hell of a lot more to people on all sides of the issue than you have, including victims.

Feel free to respond, or not, as you choose. That's what this board is about. I'll do the same. 

Meltdown99

Paul Bernardo Makes Pitch For Parole After 25 Years In Prison

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/17/paul-bernardo-parole-hearing_a_23563799/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR0oGVV1xmTpEfroWqBwMnCxuiSt4s--6ZRA2cvEFy0m4XV3_HrFAUJXwdg

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

Spiritual_Chaos

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

Meltdown99

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

Spiritual_Chaos

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

A buddy of mine and I used to debate this topic a ton. He suggested an island where we drop these types of turds of. Very similar to the 'No Escape' movie with Ray Liotta. No food. No drink. The losers fend for themselves (the island could provide).

I think that is the middle way and something I could get behind. I certainly cannot get behind video games, internet, warm meals, and a laundry service.

Meltdown99

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

A buddy of mine and I used to debate this topic a ton. He suggested an island where we drop these types of turds of. Very similar to the 'No Escape' movie with Ray Liotta. No food. No drink. The losers fend for themselves (the island could provide).

I think that is the middle way and something I could get behind. I certainly cannot get behind video games, internet, warm meals, and a laundry service.

Canada's Arctic would be the ideal spot.  Just build a prison.  Dropped the fuckers in there, give them a spoon, place a couple of dozen polar bears around the parameter...the results will be the same ... Death, only this will be death by polar bear.

Meltdown99

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

When it comes to the likes of Paul Bernardo there is no middle ground.  This human garbage along with his human garbage of a wife videotaped their torture and rape of these 2 young ladies ... lets also not forget this lovely couple killed her sister, his sister-in-law...and the lame Canadian justice system has already set that bitch free.

But I would happily throw him in general pop with a tattoo on a shaved head announcing his crimes.  The end result will be his death.  Any scenario I come up with, he dies.

Spiritual_Chaos

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

A buddy of mine and I used to debate this topic a ton. He suggested an island where we drop these types of turds of. Very similar to the 'No Escape' movie with Ray Liotta. No food. No drink. The losers fend for themselves (the island could provide).

I think that is the middle way and something I could get behind. I certainly cannot get behind video games, internet, warm meals, and a laundry service.

I think that, first and foremost their stay should be self-paid for. So the prison system should be self-supporting without the primary funding coming from taxes (us people). As in - the prisoners has to work to have the lights on, get food, and prison officers employed etc. We should not pay, to keep them away from society because they choice to break the law.

I also believe that conscious crimes to harm other people should have harder sentences. Life for murder as standard with no exceptions. If you decide to take someones life, to end that persons one and only life - then you have done something that in no way can be forgiven. You are gone from our society forever. You can't quantify the number of years for something like that.

But I do not believe in the death penalty.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

God says you are not allowed to kill though. If I remember that Charlton Heston movie correctly. The same Charlton Heston you seem to try to mimic with your way of speaking.

I don't believe in any bullshit God ... 

My only concern is for the victims...once this POS was convicted all his rights should be stripped, especially the right to breath.

I agree on everything. But I don't think we should ever have the right to kill people.

Can we meet somewhere in the middle?

A buddy of mine and I used to debate this topic a ton. He suggested an island where we drop these types of turds of. Very similar to the 'No Escape' movie with Ray Liotta. No food. No drink. The losers fend for themselves (the island could provide).

I think that is the middle way and something I could get behind. I certainly cannot get behind video games, internet, warm meals, and a laundry service.

I think that, first and foremost their stay should be self-paid for. So the prison system should be self-supporting without the primary funding coming from taxes (us people). As in - the prisoners has to work to have the lights on, get food, and prison officers employed etc. We should not pay, to keep them away from society because they choice to break the law.

I also believe that conscious crimes to harm other people should have harder sentences. Life for murder as standard with no exceptions. If you decide to take someones life, to end that persons one and only life - then you have done something that in no way can be forgiven. You are gone from our society forever. You can't quantify the number of years for something like that.

But I do not believe in the death penalty.

We inch closer together.

I agree with the self sustainability notion. That's the general premise of 'the island': go make it work for yourself with nothing- no electricity, no tools, no additional clothing. Every now and then a massive 'care package' might get dropped off on the island and the inhabitants can forage for something that might be useful to them.

It's a fighting chance is all it is. It's all guys like the guys we are talking about deserve. It'll also never happen.

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

Paul Bernardo Makes Pitch For Parole After 25 Years In Prison

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/17/paul-bernardo-parole-hearing_a_23563799/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR0oGVV1xmTpEfroWqBwMnCxuiSt4s--6ZRA2cvEFy0m4XV3_HrFAUJXwdg

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

The easy solution to this is to have sentences of life without parole in Canada. I'm personally in support of that.

oftenreading

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Paul Bernardo Makes Pitch For Parole After 25 Years In Prison

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/17/paul-bernardo-parole-hearing_a_23563799/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR0oGVV1xmTpEfroWqBwMnCxuiSt4s--6ZRA2cvEFy0m4XV3_HrFAUJXwdg

If they'd hung the son of a bitch the families would no longer need to go through this.   Wouldn't want the self-righteous offended that we put to death a useless piece of garbage...

The easy solution to this is to have sentences of life without parole in Canada. I'm personally in support of that.

Yes, me too, in such cases. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The easiest solution is to actually dispose of the disgusting rodents that have been caught after crawling from their holes and killing our children.

Life without parole (and healing houses) means a significant investment of financial and human resources that the majority of Canadians simply do not want to spend given what it is wasted on.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The easiest solution is to actually dispose of the disgusting rodents that have been caught after crawling from their holes and killing our children.

Life without parole (and healing houses) means a significant investment of financial and human resources that the majority of Canadians simply do not want to spend given what it is wasted on.

I don't understand the point in such a perspective. You know it's completely unrealistic anyhow. Why not deal with reality? You know as well as the rest of us that the process of realistic capital punishment within the existing justice system actually ends up costing more than life in prison.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The easiest solution is to actually dispose of the disgusting rodents that have been caught after crawling from their holes and killing our children.

Life without parole (and healing houses) means a significant investment of financial and human resources that the majority of Canadians simply do not want to spend given what it is wasted on.

I don't understand the point in such a perspective. You know it's completely unrealistic anyhow. Why not deal with reality? You know as well as the rest of us that the process of realistic capital punishment within the existing justice system actually ends up costing more than life in prison.

I do deal with reality. Just because I'm served a shit sandwich, it doesn't mean I have to eat it.

It's only unrealistic until it's not. The pendulum has swung way too far to the (for lack of better term) liberal viewpoint on crime and punishment. There will be changes at some point. I don't mind having these discussions until such a time. 

And the process of capital punishment is more costly because we make it so. It could be far more efficient. Regardless, costs incurred one way or another is not relevant to the argument of whether or not the DP is appropriate.

HughFreakingDillon

sometimes I see this thread as no more than people trying their best to come up with the most creative way to descirbe their hatred for this thread. 

PJ_Soul

Welcome back HFD.

HughFreakingDillon

needed to stay away for a while. probably not long enough. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

HughFreakingDillon said:

sometimes I see this thread as no more than people trying their best to come up with the most creative way to descirbe their hatred for this thread. 

I have no idea what you're getting at. I actually think- exceptions (that are naturally going to occur) aside- there has been some outstanding dialogue in this thread.

Overall, I've personally enjoyed my time in it discussing this issue. If you're done with it though... you should just avoid it. I do that with some threads.

* By the way, I saw Dark Harvest the other day starring Hugh Dillon. Thought of you lol.