I don't understand the hate for him. He is fantastic
He was pretty annoying yesterday.
how so?
I think he and aikman are the best TV analysts. Collinsworth goes into more in-game detail than anyone. and I love the fact that he will call guys out when they screw something up. Most announcers just want to tell you how great every player is (especially gruden...I cannot stand him)
I don't understand the hate for him. He is fantastic
He was pretty annoying yesterday.
how so?
I think he and aikman are the best TV analysts. Collinsworth goes into more in-game detail than anyone. and I love the fact that he will call guys out when they screw something up. Most announcers just want to tell you how great every player is (especially gruden...I cannot stand him)
i think Collinsworth has great insight and analysis, he just comes off as being very condescending at times, almost whiney
That was a blown call
They missed that call
They didnt get that call right
That call was wrong
That was a missed call
STFU Troy!!!
What drove me nuts is how they focused so much time on talking about the missed block in the back call on the Packers...yet the 49ers had TWO false starts in a row that the refs didn't call...hardly a mention at all about that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's an excuse...just irritated me at how biased they were.
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I think he and aikman are the best TV analysts. Collinsworth goes into more in-game detail than anyone. and I love the fact that he will call guys out when they screw something up. Most announcers just want to tell you how great every player is (especially gruden...I cannot stand him)
i think Collinsworth has great insight and analysis, he just comes off as being very condescending at times, almost whiney
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
maybe the ref union slipped troy a few bucks to discuss blown calls all game...i mean, it's not like he won't do anything for money (rent a center sums it up for me)
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
maybe the ref union slipped troy a few bucks to discuss blown calls all game...i mean, it's not like he won't do anything for money (rent a center sums it up for me)
Ya know..
I was thinking Troy had some type of agenda..
He just wouldnt STFU about the refs...
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
Yea agree..I like seing those old school highlights (like the ones in black in white)..the announcers describe the action and then are silent until the next play.
I think he and aikman are the best TV analysts. Collinsworth goes into more in-game detail than anyone. and I love the fact that he will call guys out when they screw something up. Most announcers just want to tell you how great every player is (especially gruden...I cannot stand him)
i think Collinsworth has great insight and analysis, he just comes off as being very condescending at times, almost whiney
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
I don't think collinsworth talks about his playing days much at all. theismann was the worst with that stuff
I agree on Joe Buck. Like I said, for as shitty as the nfl product is their announcers are pretty good.
gruden is the one I can't stand (dierdorf too). he makes MNF unwatchable
maybe the ref union slipped troy a few bucks to discuss blown calls all game...i mean, it's not like he won't do anything for money (rent a center sums it up for me)
Ya know..
I was thinking Troy had some type of agenda..
He just wouldnt STFU about the refs...
You have to admit that they were awful though. If the refs in the Bears game missed all those damn calls you KNOW you would be bitching about it too!!!!
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Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
no way man
I still miss pat summerall
pat summerall 25 years ago....yes
pat summerall 10 years ago....no
if i could bring any single annoucer back, i'd bring back Keith Jackson for college football..
You have to admit that they were awful though. If the refs in the Bears game missed all those damn calls you KNOW you would be bitching about it too!!!!
Like I said yesterday
Personal foul #56 on the return team.
Oh wait! Nevermind!!
You Packer fans cant bitch about the refs!!! hehehehehe
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You have to admit that they were awful though. If the refs in the Bears game missed all those damn calls you KNOW you would be bitching about it too!!!!
Like I said yesterday
Personal foul #56 on the return team.
Oh wait! Nevermind!!
You Packer fans cant bitch about the refs!!! hehehehehe
that was one of the worst flag pick ups ever. how do you miss that one....
ifr you throw a flag, have the balls to make the call. these refs seem scared.
You have to admit that they were awful though. If the refs in the Bears game missed all those damn calls you KNOW you would be bitching about it too!!!!
Like I said yesterday
Personal foul #56 on the return team.
Oh wait! Nevermind!!
You Packer fans cant bitch about the refs!!! hehehehehe
Hey, I'll admit it worked out in our favor a couple times. Either way THESE REFS SUCK!!! If Thursday's game comes down to a blown call I'm swearing the damn season off until they get the real refs back!
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I don't think collinsworth talks about his playing days much at all. theismann was the worst with that stuff
I agree on Joe Buck. Like I said, for as shitty as the nfl product is their announcers are pretty good.
gruden is the one I can't stand (dierdorf too). he makes MNF unwatchable
He didn't a ton, but when his partner would bring it up he'd try to play it cool and it seemed like the next play he would be bringing it up himself. He's better as an analyst on Inside the NFL.
Gruden is awful and for as bad as his color commentary is his analysis on stuff like Sportcenter or Prime Time is atrocious. Somebody please hire that guy as a coach.
Dierdorf during the Colts game yesterday was about the most annoyed I've ever been during a football game. I gave him a pass since the Colts are my team and I loathe the Bears and all their bandwagon fans around here.
Somebody mentioned Herm Edwards earlier in the thread too. Add him to my list if I haven't done it already. He would definitely fall under 81's 5 year rule. His schtick was funny the first few times I seen the Coors light commercial. I'm embarrassed for ESPN that they put him on so many shows.
For sure...In the games I watched there were alot of calls that they seemed guilted into.
Alot of them seemed to have the "Ricky Bobby I'm not sure what to do with my hands" thing going on when they would step up to announce a penalty, which I thought was pretty entertaining.
I don't think they've actually done that bad of a job. There have a been a few real head scratchers combined with a bunch of calls that the regular refs could miss.
For sure...In the games I watched there were alot of calls that they seemed guilted into.
Alot of them seemed to have the "Ricky Bobby I'm not sure what to do with my hands" thing going on when they would step up to announce a penalty, which I thought was pretty entertaining.
I don't think they've actually done that bad of a job. There have a been a few real head scratchers combined with a bunch of calls that the regular refs could miss.
i agree for the most part they have been fine, the gb/san fran crew excluded.
agree on the ricky bobby thing. they don't seem to have a clue what the hand motions are or what they are suppose to say.
Hey, I'll admit it worked out in our favor a couple times. Either way THESE REFS SUCK!!! If Thursday's game comes down to a blown call I'm swearing the damn season off until they get the real refs back!
yeah, the nfl makes BILLION$ but fuck the "real refs." they already make $128K per year for an awesome parttime job and they want a pension plan that no (full time) nfl employee gets :x
If I had known then what I know now...
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Agreed.
how so?
I think he and aikman are the best TV analysts. Collinsworth goes into more in-game detail than anyone. and I love the fact that he will call guys out when they screw something up. Most announcers just want to tell you how great every player is (especially gruden...I cannot stand him)
But yesterday?
Someone needed to kick him right in the balls.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i think Collinsworth has great insight and analysis, he just comes off as being very condescending at times, almost whiney
it's the voice
That was a blown call
They missed that call
They didnt get that call right
That call was wrong
That was a missed call
STFU Troy!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
in fairness, that was the worst reffed game of the week, at least of the games that i saw.
What drove me nuts is how they focused so much time on talking about the missed block in the back call on the Packers...yet the 49ers had TWO false starts in a row that the refs didn't call...hardly a mention at all about that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's an excuse...just irritated me at how biased they were.
But Jesus Christ Troy..
WE GET IT!!!!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Also would try to downplay it when the Michaels(?) would bring up his playing days, but then would seemingly bring them up the next possible chance he got.
Maybe different strokes for different folks. I'll never understand why so many people hate on Joe Buck.
they should have like a 5 year max broadcast career. after 5 you are out the door. too many annoucers become cartoon's of themselves.
I was thinking Troy had some type of agenda..
He just wouldnt STFU about the refs...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Yea agree..I like seing those old school highlights (like the ones in black in white)..the announcers describe the action and then are silent until the next play.
I don't think collinsworth talks about his playing days much at all. theismann was the worst with that stuff
I agree on Joe Buck. Like I said, for as shitty as the nfl product is their announcers are pretty good.
gruden is the one I can't stand (dierdorf too). he makes MNF unwatchable
You have to admit that they were awful though. If the refs in the Bears game missed all those damn calls you KNOW you would be bitching about it too!!!!
no way man
I still miss pat summerall
hahhah is last few years was great comedy!!
pat summerall 25 years ago....yes
pat summerall 10 years ago....no
if i could bring any single annoucer back, i'd bring back Keith Jackson for college football..
there you go.
the old school announcers are the best. brent musberger is tremendous for cfb.
love just hearing their voices...you know it's a big game
Personal foul #56 on the return team.
Oh wait! Nevermind!!
You Packer fans cant bitch about the refs!!! hehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
that was one of the worst flag pick ups ever. how do you miss that one....
ifr you throw a flag, have the balls to make the call. these refs seem scared.
Hey, I'll admit it worked out in our favor a couple times. Either way THESE REFS SUCK!!! If Thursday's game comes down to a blown call I'm swearing the damn season off until they get the real refs back!
He didn't a ton, but when his partner would bring it up he'd try to play it cool and it seemed like the next play he would be bringing it up himself. He's better as an analyst on Inside the NFL.
Gruden is awful and for as bad as his color commentary is his analysis on stuff like Sportcenter or Prime Time is atrocious. Somebody please hire that guy as a coach.
Dierdorf during the Colts game yesterday was about the most annoyed I've ever been during a football game. I gave him a pass since the Colts are my team and I loathe the Bears and all their bandwagon fans around here.
Somebody mentioned Herm Edwards earlier in the thread too. Add him to my list if I haven't done it already. He would definitely fall under 81's 5 year rule. His schtick was funny the first few times I seen the Coors light commercial. I'm embarrassed for ESPN that they put him on so many shows.
For sure...In the games I watched there were alot of calls that they seemed guilted into.
Alot of them seemed to have the "Ricky Bobby I'm not sure what to do with my hands" thing going on when they would step up to announce a penalty, which I thought was pretty entertaining.
I don't think they've actually done that bad of a job. There have a been a few real head scratchers combined with a bunch of calls that the regular refs could miss.
i agree for the most part they have been fine, the gb/san fran crew excluded.
agree on the ricky bobby thing. they don't seem to have a clue what the hand motions are or what they are suppose to say.
yeah, the nfl makes BILLION$ but fuck the "real refs." they already make $128K per year for an awesome parttime job and they want a pension plan that no (full time) nfl employee gets :x
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Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I love Musberger. Like you said....when you hear a voice like his, you know it's a big game.