have you travelled to europe for PJ?

PJRock75

Did the '06 Italy shows

jerseyjammer1

dimitrispearljam wrote:

it would be so great alot Americans comes our way!!!!cant wait to wellcome you to our land guys!!

Dimi,

I take it you've seen PJ all over Europe?

What cities have the best crowds? Does any city in Europe compare to those crazy rocking crowds we see on youtube in Argentina and Brazil?

Thanks!

jerseyjammer1

dimitrispearljam wrote:

it would be so great alot Americans comes our way!!!!cant wait to wellcome you to our land guys!!

Dimi,

I take it you've seen PJ all over Europe?

What cities have the best crowds? Does any city in Europe compare to those crazy rocking crowds we see on youtube in Argentina and Brazil?

Thanks!

sickofit

Rock_Princess_18 wrote:

sickofit wrote:

The more I hear u say it...the more I wanna do it too....but dunno if I can pull it off....gonna have to be extra kind to the hubs :?

Any idea what it all might cost?? If it's a bunch of us we shd totally hire a tour bus and drive around Europe

WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY GET A HUGE CREW TRAVELIN FROM SHOW TO SHOW!!!!!!!

omg im getting soooo amped up ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yepp, that could only be a good thing! We could make a documentary about it!!

Rock_Princess_18

sickofit wrote:

Rock_Princess_18 wrote:

sickofit wrote:

The more I hear u say it...the more I wanna do it too....but dunno if I can pull it off....gonna have to be extra kind to the hubs :?

Any idea what it all might cost?? If it's a bunch of us we shd totally hire a tour bus and drive around Europe

WE SHOULD SERIOUSLY GET A HUGE CREW TRAVELIN FROM SHOW TO SHOW!!!!!!!

omg im getting soooo amped up ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yepp, that could only be a good thing! We could make a documentary about it!!

Europe 2012.... EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

myra

sickofit wrote:

myra wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

when thye anounce Europe tour,pm,me,and follow Europe 2012 thread and we take it together fom there..

:thumbup:

I plan on following the whole / most of the next European tour too.

OP, flight from/to NYC aside, you definitely won't be on your own to figure it all out. Here's hoping it'll indeed be 2012 !

Yay!

The more I hear u say it...the more I wanna do it too....but dunno if I can pull it off....gonna have to be extra kind to the hubs :?

Any idea what it all might cost?? If it's a bunch of us we shd totally hire a tour bus and drive around Europe

Hey you have to be there !!! Start being extra kind to your hubs right now !!!

No seriously, I can't imagine touring without you :( .

We'll go the cheapest way, we'll find a way, you just have to pull this off !!

Now about that bus and that documentary .... :think: I have a feeling it'll be well documented, considering we had like 300 + pix for 3 days only ....

dimitrispearljam

jerseyjammer1 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

it would be so great alot Americans comes our way!!!!cant wait to wellcome you to our land guys!!

Dimi,

I take it you've seen PJ all over Europe?

What cities have the best crowds? Does any city in Europe compare to those crazy rocking crowds we see on youtube in Argentina and Brazil?

Thanks!

kinda all..ok..the best crowd in Europe is at Portugal,then Italy...the best venue is Berlin.,,if they play there is a must see show..and the coolest fans are the Dutch..hehe..they are all in a nirvana phase.. never been at the north,like sweden,norway..but south crowd always are more crazy..and cant compare to Argentina or Brazil..they are nuts down there..but sure Europe is more crazy than Usa crowd..,.
hope that helps

Suziemay

Okay, I'm in for Europe 2012 too. Might have to start selling off my PJ 20 merch to raise funds now

dimitrispearljam

Suziemay wrote:

Okay, I'm in for Europe 2012 too. Might have to start selling off my PJ 20 merch to raise funds now

oh..yeah..therte is the money issue.....shit.,,,how gonna afford that one.. :roll:

Suziemay

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Suziemay wrote:

Okay, I'm in for Europe 2012 too. Might have to start selling off my PJ 20 merch to raise funds now

oh..yeah..therte is the money issue.....shit.,,,how gonna afford that one.. :roll:

We'll find a way! Although, I might have accumulated enough miles on my credit card from all the PJ spending I'm doing this year

Hinn

1. Hotels are for silly older people. Youth hostels are everywhere. Decent ones for about $35. Just about double that if you're going to a show in Venice or Scandinavia, halve that if it's in places not on the Euro (except Switzerland and Scandinavia). Hostelworld or Hostelbookers.
2. Book early, book cheap. Flights, especially. Skyscanner is your friend. Ryanair isn't, but it's cheap. They're fucked, you'll get pissed off at them while you fly, but they're cheap. And them other ones too - WizzAir, Tuifly, them other continent-based tightarse airlines. You can fly for 5 bucks if you book at exactly the right times.
3. A Eurail pass is a ripoff for the kind of rapid travel you'll be doing during a tour.
4. You really wanna save money? Forget the hostel. Sleep on the airport floor. Saves on the hostel cost, and the first plane out from whichever shitty out-of-town airport to the next place you're going to is always the cheapest one
5. Find someone to ride with instead of flying
6. Fuck the queue. Waste of time. Unless if it's Berlin, in which case they have great bars right at the queue, but even then, still fuck the queue. I'd rather dive into the fountain and/or pass out. Come drink with me instead.
7. I cannot emphasise this any more. FUCK. THE. QUEUE.
8. You can sleep when you pass out.
9. Alcohol-induced sleep drowns out the vaccuum cleaners at the airport which run through the night. They're annoying, but at least night staff being around means that no one is getting raped.
10. I say come drink with me. I didn't say that I'm good at protecting people. Some guy walked into my Alpine Valley room and demanded we leave his room, and my reaction was to wake up, go pee, then go back to sleep.
11. Ask people for board. I hosted like 12 Poles at my digs in London for showers and shit.
12. Trans-Atlantic flights aren't going to be cheap. Ryanair is sposed to start up but don't hold your breath. Transat or Iceland Express are somewhat cheaper than the big carriers.
13. Oh yeah. Fuck the queue.
14. Drinking in Scandinavia is expensive.
15. Drinking in Poland is not
16. I love that everyone just drinks in the street and on the tube in Germany and a bunch of other places
17. Did I mention I'm kinda a tour alcoholic?
18. Fuck the queue!

Suziemay

Hinn wrote:

11. Ask people for board. I hosted like 12 Poles at my digs in London for showers and shit.

Shower and shit only? Where did they pee?

Hinn

Suziemay wrote:

Hinn wrote:

11. Ask people for board. I hosted like 12 Poles at my digs in London for showers and shit.

Shower and shit only? Where did they pee?

Outside. In Europe, our toilets can only accept poo. They repel urine. You've been warned. And I haven't even got to the Drop Bears, in case youse were thinking of touring Australia...

Brisk.

Hinn wrote:

1. Hotels are for silly older people. Youth hostels are everywhere. Decent ones for about $35. Just about double that if you're going to a show in Venice or Scandinavia, halve that if it's in places not on the Euro (except Switzerland and Scandinavia). Hostelworld or Hostelbookers.
2. Book early, book cheap. Flights, especially. Skyscanner is your friend. Ryanair isn't, but it's cheap. They're fucked, you'll get pissed off at them while you fly, but they're cheap. And them other ones too - WizzAir, Tuifly, them other continent-based tightarse airlines. You can fly for 5 bucks if you book at exactly the right times.
3. A Eurail pass is a ripoff for the kind of rapid travel you'll be doing during a tour.
4. You really wanna save money? Forget the hostel. Sleep on the airport floor. Saves on the hostel cost, and the first plane out from whichever shitty out-of-town airport to the next place you're going to is always the cheapest one
5. Find someone to ride with instead of flying
6. Fuck the queue. Waste of time. Unless if it's Berlin, in which case they have great bars right at the queue, but even then, still fuck the queue. I'd rather dive into the fountain and/or pass out. Come drink with me instead.
7. I cannot emphasise this any more. FUCK. THE. QUEUE.
8. You can sleep when you pass out.
9. Alcohol-induced sleep drowns out the vaccuum cleaners at the airport which run through the night. They're annoying, but at least night staff being around means that no one is getting raped.
10. I say come drink with me. I didn't say that I'm good at protecting people. Some guy walked into my Alpine Valley room and demanded we leave his room, and my reaction was to wake up, go pee, then go back to sleep.
11. Ask people for board. I hosted like 12 Poles at my digs in London for showers and shit.
12. Trans-Atlantic flights aren't going to be cheap. Ryanair is sposed to start up but don't hold your breath. Transat or Iceland Express are somewhat cheaper than the big carriers.
13. Oh yeah. Fuck the queue.
14. Drinking in Scandinavia is expensive.
15. Drinking in Poland is not
16. I love that everyone just drinks in the street and on the tube in Germany and a bunch of other places
17. Did I mention I'm kinda a tour alcoholic?
18. Fuck the queue!

Sums up Hinn quite well if you ask me.

Some wise points nonetheless :P

Hinn

Sadly I no longer have my sweet old flat in London to host people like last time... the cramped space here doesn't allow for that. Unless if people are interested in something called a stacks-on, another Aussie concept I'm looking to introduce to my touring.

Rock_Princess_18

Hinn wrote:

1. Hotels are for silly older people. Youth hostels are everywhere. Decent ones for about $35. Just about double that if you're going to a show in Venice or Scandinavia, halve that if it's in places not on the Euro (except Switzerland and Scandinavia). Hostelworld or Hostelbookers.
2. Book early, book cheap. Flights, especially. Skyscanner is your friend. Ryanair isn't, but it's cheap. They're fucked, you'll get pissed off at them while you fly, but they're cheap. And them other ones too - WizzAir, Tuifly, them other continent-based tightarse airlines. You can fly for 5 bucks if you book at exactly the right times.
3. A Eurail pass is a ripoff for the kind of rapid travel you'll be doing during a tour.
4. You really wanna save money? Forget the hostel. Sleep on the airport floor. Saves on the hostel cost, and the first plane out from whichever shitty out-of-town airport to the next place you're going to is always the cheapest one
5. Find someone to ride with instead of flying
6. Fuck the queue. Waste of time. Unless if it's Berlin, in which case they have great bars right at the queue, but even then, still fuck the queue. I'd rather dive into the fountain and/or pass out. Come drink with me instead.
7. I cannot emphasise this any more. FUCK. THE. QUEUE.
8. You can sleep when you pass out.
9. Alcohol-induced sleep drowns out the vaccuum cleaners at the airport which run through the night. They're annoying, but at least night staff being around means that no one is getting raped.
10. I say come drink with me. I didn't say that I'm good at protecting people. Some guy walked into my Alpine Valley room and demanded we leave his room, and my reaction was to wake up, go pee, then go back to sleep.
11. Ask people for board. I hosted like 12 Poles at my digs in London for showers and shit.
12. Trans-Atlantic flights aren't going to be cheap. Ryanair is sposed to start up but don't hold your breath. Transat or Iceland Express are somewhat cheaper than the big carriers.
13. Oh yeah. Fuck the queue.
14. Drinking in Scandinavia is expensive.
15. Drinking in Poland is not
16. I love that everyone just drinks in the street and on the tube in Germany and a bunch of other places
17. Did I mention I'm kinda a tour alcoholic?
18. Fuck the queue!

HAHAHAH hilarious... thanks for the advice

Rock_Princess_18

so far it seems that the general consensus is to BOOK EARLY in order to get the cheapest flights....

however, this seems to present a bit of a problem....

i feel like pearl jam is notorious lately for not announcing dates super super in advance... for example... when was PJ20 actually announced? wasn't that like 4 months ahead of time? is that early enough to get a good price on flights?

any idea when we might get closer to some real dates? i feel like it might not be til march or something which i feel isnt a great amount of time to prepare... idk

myra

Rock_Princess_18 wrote:

so far it seems that the general consensus is to BOOK EARLY in order to get the cheapest flights....

however, this seems to present a bit of a problem....

i feel like pearl jam is notorious lately for not announcing dates super super in advance... for example... when was PJ20 actually announced? wasn't that like 4 months ahead of time? is that early enough to get a good price on flights?

any idea when we might get closer to some real dates? i feel like it might not be til march or something which i feel isnt a great amount of time to prepare... idk

I got good fares for Chicago (from Nice) when PJ20 was announced. Actually, the prices even went down a bit for a few days, before going back up again and getting more and more expensive. So the timing for me, in that respect, wasn't that bad.

Suziemay

Rock_Princess_18 wrote:

so far it seems that the general consensus is to BOOK EARLY in order to get the cheapest flights....

however, this seems to present a bit of a problem....

i feel like pearl jam is notorious lately for not announcing dates super super in advance... for example... when was PJ20 actually announced? wasn't that like 4 months ahead of time? is that early enough to get a good price on flights?

any idea when we might get closer to some real dates? i feel like it might not be til march or something which i feel isnt a great amount of time to prepare... idk

I generally do okay if I buy at least a month before. 2 months in advance is my comfort level. I think 4 months advance notice is plenty! Sometimes when I look too far in advance the fares aren't that great. I'd say don't worry about it until it's announced because until then, there isn't much you can do! Maybe hotels that allow you to cancel if you hear rumours.

Mirella

I already live in Europe so I did not have to travel to it, but I've been touring since many years ago, when most people weren't touring after Pearl Jam yet. The past years, money has really restricted me, but back then I did not let it bother me. Transportation and tickets are the most important, and then you'll need places to sleep. You can make that as cheap or as expensive as you wish. I know people who toured the whole 2000 European tour who sometimes slept in parks and washed in fountains. But I also know people who spent the same amount of money for two shows that I did 13 for in 2006.
I liked touring by train, but once I got my own car that turned out the best. It's exhausting, but it is exhausting anyway. I have slept in a mixture of friend's houses, hostels, hotel floors of friends when everything was full, and hotels. Loved it all! Just be in time, be prepared (money, days off, information, things like that), and just do it.

Oh, and to get to know people all over Europe, of course I can recommend the Bugs mailinglist. It was started in 1995 before the tour of 1996. You can find all information about Bugs on our facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pjbugs

groetjes,
Mirella