have you travelled to europe for PJ?

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  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    Also, since, for many of us it's also about meeting other fans and friends and enjoy the show collectively, what the crowd is gonna be like is a good factor to consider. I have to agree with Dimi on his mini-analysis of Euro and S.American crowds. He has first-hand experience...I've only watched videos :P And I've never seen them here in Norway since I only moved here over 4 yrs ago (they haven't been here since 2000 - hint! hint!)...so I dunno what the PJ crowds are like here. London last yr was massive and ppl very crazy but in a good way. I was the only PJ-fan in my little group of 3. Met some Italian, English and Irish fans and they were all just as 'mad' as each other and it all made for a fantastic atmosphere.
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • sickofit wrote:
    Also, since, for many of us it's also about meeting other fans and friends and enjoy the show collectively, what the crowd is gonna be like is a good factor to consider. I have to agree with Dimi on his mini-analysis of Euro and S.American crowds. He has first-hand experience...I've only watched videos :P And I've never seen them here in Norway since I only moved here over 4 yrs ago (they haven't been here since 2000 - hint! hint!)...so I dunno what the PJ crowds are like here. London last yr was massive and ppl very crazy but in a good way. I was the only PJ-fan in my little group of 3. Met some Italian, English and Irish fans and they were all just as 'mad' as each other and it all made for a fantastic atmosphere.
    now you mention London..really cant put London in a compare..is the easiest and cheapest place as for airtickets.alot cheap aircompanies fly there .so almost all europeans if can travel at one show out of there country choose London,..plus they always play there when they come to Europe..so isnt just Brittish crowd when we talk about London.. :)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    sickofit wrote:
    Also, since, for many of us it's also about meeting other fans and friends and enjoy the show collectively, what the crowd is gonna be like is a good factor to consider. I have to agree with Dimi on his mini-analysis of Euro and S.American crowds. He has first-hand experience...I've only watched videos :P And I've never seen them here in Norway since I only moved here over 4 yrs ago (they haven't been here since 2000 - hint! hint!)...so I dunno what the PJ crowds are like here. London last yr was massive and ppl very crazy but in a good way. I was the only PJ-fan in my little group of 3. Met some Italian, English and Irish fans and they were all just as 'mad' as each other and it all made for a fantastic atmosphere.
    now you mention London..really cant put London in a compare..is the easiest and cheapest place as for airtickets.alot cheap aircompanies fly there .so almost all europeans if can travel at one show out of there country choose London,..plus they always play there when they come to Europe..so isnt just Brittish crowd when we talk about London.. :)

    That's exactly why I chose to do London last year cuz I could only do one show!! Just wish I had known more fans in-person...would have had a better time :D
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • dottles
    dottles Posts: 9,206
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    2009 - Manchester. 2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London, Berlin, Arras, Werchter. 2011 - PJ20 i & ii, Montreal, Toronto i & ii, Ottawa, Hamilton. 
    2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
    2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii. 
  • dottles wrote:
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dottles
    dottles Posts: 9,206
    dottles wrote:
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:
    Leave London hosting the Olympics and go to the home of the Olypmics...sounds like a plan to me, though I couldn't stand the heat!
    2009 - Manchester. 2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London, Berlin, Arras, Werchter. 2011 - PJ20 i & ii, Montreal, Toronto i & ii, Ottawa, Hamilton. 
    2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
    2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii. 
  • dottles wrote:
    dottles wrote:
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:
    Leave London hosting the Olympics and go to the home of the Olypmics...sounds like a plan to me, though I couldn't stand the heat!
    Sorry that we are ...hot here.. :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    sickofit wrote:
    Someone quick, get me a JOB or three!!! :lol: This has to be done now....umm, maybe not the whole tour but most of it. I can pull that off, right? Cheap and cheerful sounds great in that case. It'll be a laugh. Bring your own sheets :lol:

    I'll backpack it this time. Don't think I can go on almost a whole tour with the same pair of jeans like I had to for PJ20, thanks to American Airlines losing my bag :P

    Me too!! All this talk about Europe 2012 is making me crave it now. MSG what? Bring on the European shows!! Actually, please still come to MSG 2 nights. Or 5 :mrgreen:

    sickofit, when you fly international, do a non-US airline. I find the service soooo much better. Your bag actually shows up like it's supposed to and when you miss a connecting flight, they actually make sure your luggage is on the plan you are on, not the one that you missed. Imagine that! :lol::lol:
  • Blind3 wrote:
    Very glad to have seen PJ in europe. Great shows and great fans . Started in 2006 with Zagreb and Athens . Attended PJ at Wembley, Dusseldorf , Copenhagen , and Nijmegen in 2007 . Caught PJ in Berlin (Wulheide absolutely ROCKS !!!) , Manchester , and London in 2009 .

    So out of your run of shows, which place had the best crowd?

    And what makes Wulheide so good? Dimi mentioned this too.

    I've never been over there so just curious.

    thanks!
  • Here's my tip: you live in Buffalo? I live in NJ, but I found this great airline, Globespan, that flies from NYC to Liverpool, landing at John lennon International Airport ... really reasonable rates!! When Pearl Jam played Wembley in London in 2007 I flew there, spent a night in Liverpool and toured all the famous Beatles haunts...then took a bus to London for the show...but if they play anywhere in Europe this is a great way to get there, because from London it's easy to get anywhere else in Europe, and it is worth it just to see Liverpool!
    I was alone and far away when I heard the band start playing!

    ...I was always a DeadHead, but when I first heard Winston Rodney, aka the Burning Spear, sing, I became a SpearHead too!
  • Tour the cheaper countries in Europe and you'll save a packet. Pearl Jam at Berlin cost nearly 3 times as much as the same concert the next night at the Opener festival here in Poland. Accommodation, etc also makes a big difference to a budget. My advice if you are travelling on a budget is to skip the UK and fly straight to Germany and tour in continental Europe.

    With the band playing some unusual/rarely visited countries in South America, there is always a chance that they will hit less often visited places in Europe like Croatia, Poland, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Bulgaria and so on and that would be about 5 shows for the price of two in the UK!
    isnt easy or cheap to travel to Poland..thats why i skip it last year.. :)

    That was only because there was just a day between the show in Berlin and the festival in Gydnia and Gdynia doesn't have a good enough airport or direct train connection to get there in time. The only option was a more expensive flight or two, or driving like we did - but then we are local, so we could just use our own car. In terms of accommodation, food and concert tickets, Poland is cheaper than most other places.

    However, at the risk of being lambasted by all the Poles on here, I have to say that the crowds are amongst the worst in Europe. They are always full of people who think that the front 20 rows of every single concert has to be a mosh pit like an Napalm Death concert. Most casual concert goers don't really 'get' what a Pearl Jam concert is, they just think that guitar = reason to headbutt people and stamp on feet. The real Pollish Pearl Jam fans don't fit into this category.
    we're all going to the same place...
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    dottles wrote:
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:

    well, they don't always just do a London gig in the UK...I'd opt for Ireland this time around if it's on the list. Or Manchester. Forgot abt the Olympics next yr. PJ might stay away from London all together depending on dates if they know what's good for 'em. I can imagine it's gonna be a nightmare getting around London next summer.

    Athens, though, I could go for....native tour guide and much better food too ;)
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • sickofit wrote:
    dottles wrote:
    Keep in mind that next year we have the olympics in London,so airfare/hotels around that time will I suspect be pricier.....
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:

    well, they don't always just do a London gig in the UK...I'd opt for Ireland this time around if it's on the list. Or Manchester. Forgot abt the Olympics next yr. PJ might stay away from London all together depending on dates if they know what's good for 'em. I can imagine it's gonna be a nightmare getting around London next summer.

    Athens, though, I could go for....native tour guide and much better food too ;)
    there is always the option we all stay at Hinnys house.. :lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    sickofit wrote:
    so..better no London next year...Athens seems a nice place to visit..+ you have a tourist guide already.. :mrgreen:

    well, they don't always just do a London gig in the UK...I'd opt for Ireland this time around if it's on the list. Or Manchester. Forgot abt the Olympics next yr. PJ might stay away from London all together depending on dates if they know what's good for 'em. I can imagine it's gonna be a nightmare getting around London next summer.

    Athens, though, I could go for....native tour guide and much better food too ;)
    there is always the option we all stay at Hinnys house.. :lol:

    Would we have to grow mullets firsts? :?
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • sickofit wrote:
    there is always the option we all stay at Hinnys house.. :lol:

    Would we have to grow mullets firsts? :?
    nah..just need to be like his new look..Blonde :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    sickofit wrote:
    there is always the option we all stay at Hinnys house.. :lol:

    Would we have to grow mullets firsts? :?
    nah..just need to be like his new look..Blonde :mrgreen:

    crap, don't think I can pull off that look...I'm too smart to be blonde 8-)
    So which euro countries u think they're gonna visit next year if at all?
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • Hope you guys come to Portugal if it happens :D
    ~Can't escape from the common rule
    If you hate something, don't you do it too...~
  • Hope you guys come to Portugal if it happens :D
    if it happens im there.. :D
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dottles
    dottles Posts: 9,206
    sickofit wrote:
    Would we have to grow mullets firsts? :?
    nah..just need to be like his new look..Blonde :mrgreen:

    ginger
    2009 - Manchester. 2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London, Berlin, Arras, Werchter. 2011 - PJ20 i & ii, Montreal, Toronto i & ii, Ottawa, Hamilton. 
    2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
    2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.