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I don't want PJ20 weekend to turn into a WM3 celebration.
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Hear me out. I admit, I have not followed the case closely. I have a basic understanding of what has transpired.
The fact that the WM3 were railroaded simply because they looked/acted different is a complete and utter shame. It seems that the handling of the case was/is at best, poor, and at worst, frighteningly and dangerously inept.
And while it's great that the WM3 will be able to re-enter society, and essentially start over, they've lost quite a bit of their lives for crimes they didn't commit. They won't be able to get that time back.
Worst of all, 3 little boys are dead, and no one has been rightfully punished for it.
But PJ20 is a celebration of Pearl Jam.
If PJ wants to have a benefit for these guys, help them get back on their feet, that's fine. No problem with that.
And if Ed wants to mention/lead cheers for their release, that's fine too.
But let's not trot them out to sing backup on "Rocking In The Free World".
The case is a very sensitive, very polarizing one. I know it's important to the band, or at least Ed.
But I want the weekend to be fun.
You could say that the celebration of freedom, of justice, for the WM3, is the pinnacle/apex of fun. I don't disagree.
But save it for another time.
The fact that the WM3 were railroaded simply because they looked/acted different is a complete and utter shame. It seems that the handling of the case was/is at best, poor, and at worst, frighteningly and dangerously inept.
And while it's great that the WM3 will be able to re-enter society, and essentially start over, they've lost quite a bit of their lives for crimes they didn't commit. They won't be able to get that time back.
Worst of all, 3 little boys are dead, and no one has been rightfully punished for it.
But PJ20 is a celebration of Pearl Jam.
If PJ wants to have a benefit for these guys, help them get back on their feet, that's fine. No problem with that.
And if Ed wants to mention/lead cheers for their release, that's fine too.
But let's not trot them out to sing backup on "Rocking In The Free World".
The case is a very sensitive, very polarizing one. I know it's important to the band, or at least Ed.
But I want the weekend to be fun.
You could say that the celebration of freedom, of justice, for the WM3, is the pinnacle/apex of fun. I don't disagree.
But save it for another time.
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ed will say on stage what ever he wants...all will be ok..all will be about the greatest band of all times..
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Agree completely with that, but sadly, I lean more towards this...
Good for them, but it has no place at PJ20 a celebration of PJ not the WM3
+1. If we have to sit through an Army Reserve duet and I don't hear Girl, I'm gonna be pissed
Why not? He's had 18 years to practice his singing.. maybe he'll be awesome!
Why would you hope he goes off on a rant about politics? All that is going to do is get the crowd all riled up and pissed off.
I've been to many shows, as I'm sure you have and never once has the crowd gotten riled up and pissed off at Eddie's speeches. It's part of the show, I love when he speaks his mind and so do lots of other fans. If they aren't used to it then they must not have been to many shows.
I don't think it will overshadow anything...but it would be out of character, and to me-a disappointment if it wasn't at least mentioned.
I dare you.
I've tried to phone in "Jeremy" a few times, and it's tough.
It doesn't work.
Maybe "riled up" was the wrong phrase. But you do hear plenty of boos when Eddie starts on his rants. It's great that he's so passionate about politics, but I'm just not a fan of when he does it at the shows.
i'd never heard "plenty of boos"... esp at the start of a rant... maybe as it goes along people start getting chirpy... although i guess the bush mask thing did stir some people
Do I want people in jail for a crime they did not commit? OF COURSE not. But, just for me, I tend to think more about the murdered children. So, anything that is framed as a "celebration" feels a little wrong to me.
Just my two cents.
Missed that one, but I was at Bristow, VA last year when Eddie suggested Goldman Sachs lobbyists should kill themselves. I'm sure mostly everyone knew he was halfway kidding but I didn't hear any booing or anyone getting riled up. We expect it anyone who would get worked up over Ed's speeches shouldn't be at the show.
So if someone disagrees with EV's political rants, they shouldn't be able to go to the show?? Thats a bit much...
Where did I say that? I said anyone who gets worked up about it meaning if you have to boo or walk out or start bitching all loudly about it. It's pretty well known that you're going to hear more than just Eddie singing, he's going to speak his mind. To him it's not just a concert it's a mass of people that he feels should hear his opinions.
I don't think anyone expected THOSE kinds of comments but it really shouldn't surprise anyone who's been to more than one show. He gets pretty opinionated and your right especially if he's on the 2nd bottle. That's when it gets really good
Well if someone boos or gets worked up, I would imagine that they disagree with his politics. Just because you don't enjoy EV's political rants doesn't mean you're not worthy of attending a show.
Get ready to see a million WM3 shirts,
Again you can disagree and not enjoy it all you want but when you boo or get all worked up about it vocally, what's the point? He probably can't hear you. You're in the AUDIENCE from the latin to listen or hear. He has the mic therefore you will listen to what he has to say and you should expect it if you've been to more than one show.