I know guy's that went and guy's "dodged" the draft, when I turned 18 I had to go to the post office and sign up for the draft and Viet nam had just ended a year or so earlier but the draft was still in effect...scared the barn yard shit right out of me cuz I grown up watching the war on t.v...but anyway my question to you Gimmi what would you have done ? knowing that it was supposed to be a police action not a testing ground for the latest weapondry and full scale war we did not need, if drafted I knew back then I would go war time or not if I had to....I was just trying to find a way to keep my hair in the military just in case
was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.
Godfather.
So your response to the proof that Ted Nugent is a loud-mouthed draft-dodging fake, is to ask 'Was Obama ever in the military?'
:problem:
Ted Nugent fans on the Pearl Jam message board. This place really has sunk to a new low.
was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.
Godfather.
So your response to the proof that Ted Nugent is a loud-mouthed draft-dodging fake, is to ask 'Was Obama ever in the military?'
:problem:
Ted Nugent fans on the Pearl Jam message board. This place really has sunk to a new low.
it did that when a man who claims to be DB Cooper jumped in.....but that's one of the reasons I like this place, check this out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/-McpNtHet3w I'll bet you The Nuge can balance his budget
Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?
One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.
But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:
"… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.
(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.
Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.
Godfather.
it amuses me that anyone who hates Democratic politicians call their supporters people who "blindly support". the point is not that Obama was or was not ever in the military, the point is your hero Nuge claims to be some geniune tough guy born and bred uh-MUUR-ican walking around like some militia man when in reality he's just a chicken shit hypocrite.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?
One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.
But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:
"… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.
(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.
Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.
Godfather.
it amuses me that anyone who hates Democratic politicians call their supporters people who "blindly support". the point is not that Obama was or was not ever in the military, the point is your hero Nuge claims to be some geniune tough guy born and bred uh-MUUR-ican walking around like some militia man when in reality he's just a chicken shit hypocrite.
did I hurt your obama-ite feelings ?....sorry,maybe next election we'll get a real man in the white house...and I don't care what party he comes from but I think I may vote for ....not real sure yet but sure as shit won't be the sissy we got in there now.
You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?
A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.
Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.
Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat with Godfather. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?
A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.
Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.
Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
us "people" are just tired of bad government and over taxation and everytime some whinnie sissy want's to give billions to other countrys or open our borders to anybody or let American business' out-source American jobs or everytime some dirt bag uses a gun in a crime they want to create a new gun law and one other thing...two of the most important instutions in this country are schools and military but they seem to be a target for cut's way too often,I don't like war and think we should never have went to afgan or syria ?..we should have just smoked bin laden and split but that dosen't mean we cut the military budget we must be prerared....so is that the kinda people you are talking about ? "we" don't want a third reich we want America back with out all the panzie bullshit and offering it up to anybody with the money to buy it's business' and/or any part of it.....I think you call "us" RedNecks but we are Americans.
us "people" are just tired of bad government and over taxation and everytime some whinnie sissy want's to give billions to other countrys or open our borders to anybody or let American business' out-source American jobs or everytime some dirt bag uses a gun in a crime they want to create a new gun law and one other thing...two of the most important instutions in this country are schools and military but they seem to be a target for cut's way too often,I don't like war and think we should never have went to afgan or syria ?..we should have just smoked bin laden and split but that dosen't mean we cut the military budget we must be prerared....so is that the kinda people you are talking about ? "we" don't want a third reich we want America back with out all the panzie bullshit and offering it up to anybody with the money to buy it's business' and/or any part of it.....I think you call "us" RedNecks but we are Americans.
Godfather.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?
A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.
Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.
Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat with Godfather. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
I don't think you need to worry about being bunched up with me Jeanwah I think I corner the market on my thoughts of American patriotism(on here anyway) .......and my spelling
Umm, is the economy and the credit downgrade Ted Nugent's fault? I don't see the connection here.
If you want to talk about rock stars and saying one thing and then their actions show another thing...well, you just might be in the right place after all.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat with Godfather. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
I don't think you need to worry about being bunched up with me Jeanwah I think I corner the market on my thoughts of American patriotism(on here anyway) .......and my spelling
I don't think you need to worry about being bunched up with me Jeanwah I think I corner the market on my thoughts of American patriotism(on here anyway) .......and my spelling
I don't think you need to worry about being bunched up with me Jeanwah I think I corner the market on my thoughts of American patriotism(on here anyway) .......and my spelling
Godfather.
Patriotism?
Is that what you call it?
:think:
well of corse my friend,good old fashion Patriotism it's a long lost sense of pride by many in this country
but fear not I am here to remind the masses that this country is a great one and must be protected at all cost
from enemies both domestic and abroad ....c'mon man you didn't even smile just a little bit.
well of corse my friend,good old fashion Patriotism it's a long lost sense of pride by many in this country
but fear not I am here to remind the masses that this country is a great one and must be protected at all cost
from enemies both domestic and abroad ....c'mon man you didn't even smile just a little bit.
Godfather.
Spreading fear, intolerance, bigotry, and xenophobia has nothing to do with patriotism.
My brain is still having trouble comprehending how anyone can like Pearl Jam and Ted Nugent.
Seriously...WTF? :think:
stanglehold. other than that I couldn't tell you.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
did I hurt your obama-ite feelings ?....sorry,maybe next election we'll get a real man in the white house...and I don't care what party he comes from but I think I may vote for ....not real sure yet but sure as shit won't be the sissy we got in there now.
Godfather.
first, I'm not an Obama-ite (?). I'm Canadian. sissy? please explain why you call him a sissy.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I don't think you've ever quoted an article outside of fox news, have you. I'm not quite sure why you think this bothers me. or why you think you are "winning" some argument we're not even having.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
did I hurt your obama-ite feelings ?....sorry,maybe next election we'll get a real man in the white house...and I don't care what party he comes from but I think I may vote for ....not real sure yet but sure as shit won't be the sissy we got in there now.
Godfather.
first, I'm not an Obama-ite (?). I'm Canadian. sissy? please explain why you call him a sissy.
dang Bro just watch the news,I have never seen a president back down and ask the public for help
doing a job he was voted in to do, in all honesty I don't dis-like the man but I do believe his lack of experiance in politics is the reason he can't do his job..he's playing with the big boys now and getting ate up,he's too soft for the job of president, just my opinion.
My brain is still having trouble comprehending how anyone can like Pearl Jam and Ted Nugent.
Seriously...WTF? :think:
never let your politics separate your taste in music, I may not agree with PJ's politics but the music is awesome.
Godfather.
I guess if you just listen to the instrumentals, that might make some sense. lyrics? nah, they don't matter. :roll:
do you sing along to Bu$hleaguer?
no offense man but I think you havn't been around long enough to really understand,political lyrics have been used a lot longer that you have been alive and ya know what..the ideas and causes change the people come and go the bands come and go but the song is still great.
and I sing along to Hendrix the Doors Zepplin White Stripes Killers CCR Neil Young Black Sabbath Pearl Jam
and I have a blast doing it with out worrying about the politics they may have intended in the song...I love music and politics are a pain in the ass.
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Godfather.
So your response to the proof that Ted Nugent is a loud-mouthed draft-dodging fake, is to ask 'Was Obama ever in the military?'
:problem:
Ted Nugent fans on the Pearl Jam message board. This place really has sunk to a new low.
it did that when a man who claims to be DB Cooper jumped in.....but that's one of the reasons I like this place, check this out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/-McpNtHet3w I'll bet you The Nuge can balance his budget
Godfather.
it amuses me that anyone who hates Democratic politicians call their supporters people who "blindly support". the point is not that Obama was or was not ever in the military, the point is your hero Nuge claims to be some geniune tough guy born and bred uh-MUUR-ican walking around like some militia man when in reality he's just a chicken shit hypocrite.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
did I hurt your obama-ite feelings ?....sorry,maybe next election we'll get a real man in the white house...and I don't care what party he comes from but I think I may vote for ....not real sure yet but sure as shit won't be the sissy we got in there now.
Godfather.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... to-gallup/
Godfather.
You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?
A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.
Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.
Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat with Godfather. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
Godfather.
Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
I don't think you need to worry about being bunched up with me Jeanwah I think I corner the market on my thoughts of American patriotism(on here anyway)
Godfather.
If you want to talk about rock stars and saying one thing and then their actions show another thing...well, you just might be in the right place after all.
Agreed.
Patriotism?
Is that what you call it?
:think:
well of corse my friend,good old fashion Patriotism it's a long lost sense of pride by many in this country
but fear not I am here to remind the masses that this country is a great one and must be protected at all cost
from enemies both domestic and abroad
Godfather.
Spreading fear, intolerance, bigotry, and xenophobia has nothing to do with patriotism.
for the least they could possibly do
Seriously...WTF? :think:
Something is seriously amiss.
for the least they could possibly do
+1
Marlon Brando.
stanglehold. other than that I couldn't tell you.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
never let your politics separate your taste in music, I may not agree with PJ's politics but the music is awesome.
Godfather.
Godfather.
:thumbup: well said G-man!
wango tango
love grenade
snake skin cowboys
just to name a few,just thought I'd help ya out a little.
Godfather.
first, I'm not an Obama-ite (?). I'm Canadian. sissy? please explain why you call him a sissy.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I don't think you've ever quoted an article outside of fox news, have you. I'm not quite sure why you think this bothers me. or why you think you are "winning" some argument we're not even having.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I guess if you just listen to the instrumentals, that might make some sense. lyrics? nah, they don't matter. :roll:
do you sing along to Bu$hleaguer?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
dang Bro just watch the news,I have never seen a president back down and ask the public for help
doing a job he was voted in to do, in all honesty I don't dis-like the man but I do believe his lack of experiance in politics is the reason he can't do his job..he's playing with the big boys now and getting ate up,he's too soft for the job of president, just my opinion.
Godfather.
no offense man but I think you havn't been around long enough to really understand,political lyrics have been used a lot longer that you have been alive and ya know what..the ideas and causes change the people come and go the bands come and go but the song is still great.
and I sing along to Hendrix the Doors Zepplin White Stripes Killers CCR Neil Young Black Sabbath Pearl Jam
and I have a blast doing it with out worrying about the politics they may have intended in the song...I love music and politics are a pain in the ass.
Godfather.