Obama's Darkest Days (would Hillary have done better?)

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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i don't think it would be any different. she also would have a hostile congress. and everyone knows the only thing congressional republicans hate about as much as obama is a clinton...

    Yep. The Republican's main goal is to destroy Obama's presidency and I bet they'd have that same hate towards Hillary. Because she's not only a Clinton, but a woman.

    BUT, because I believe that a single person does not truly rule this country, (it's a system rule, not a president rule,) there's no doubt we'd be in the same boat we are today, regardless what Dem "won" the presidential seat. There just happens to be more hatred from Republicans because they hate a Dem minority ruling the seat.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Gentalmen, I think what you ment to say was The Nuge is a stand up American and will not be led around with a ring in his nose (like many of the people that voted for obama) he stands up for the American way of life and calls bullshit when He sees it and that's something mr.obama just don't have the back-bone to do ...right ?
    I was just joking about The Nuge being president but as far as the wild man politic's....he ROCK'S !!!!!
    he's not one of those "limp wristed choose your words carefully because we don't want to hurt someones feelings"
    kind of guy....we got enough of those pussy's around as it is. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Godfather. wrote:
    Gentalmen, I think what you ment to say was The Nuge is a stand up American and will not be led around with a ring in his nose (like many of the people that voted for obama) he stands up for the American way of life and calls bullshit when He sees it and that's something mr.obama just don't have the back-bone to do ...right ?
    I was just joking about The Nuge being president but as far as the wild man politic's....he ROCK'S !!!!!
    he's not one of those "limp wristed choose your words carefully because we don't want to hurt someones feelings"
    kind of guy....we got enough of those pussy's around as it is. :lol:

    Godfather.
    :lolno:
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Godfather. wrote:
    Gentalmen, I think what you ment to say was The Nuge is a stand up American and will not be led around with a ring in his nose (like many of the people that voted for obama) he stands up for the American way of life and calls bullshit when He sees it and that's something mr.obama just don't have the back-bone to do ...right ?
    I was just joking about The Nuge being president but as far as the wild man politic's....he ROCK'S !!!!!
    he's not one of those "limp wristed choose your words carefully because we don't want to hurt someones feelings"
    kind of guy....we got enough of those pussy's around as it is. :lol:

    Godfather.

    these politics rock!!!!!!! classy!! your support of ted nugent says alot about you.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=757_1187963465&p=1
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CH156378 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Gentalmen, I think what you ment to say was The Nuge is a stand up American and will not be led around with a ring in his nose (like many of the people that voted for obama) he stands up for the American way of life and calls bullshit when He sees it and that's something mr.obama just don't have the back-bone to do ...right ?
    I was just joking about The Nuge being president but as far as the wild man politic's....he ROCK'S !!!!!
    he's not one of those "limp wristed choose your words carefully because we don't want to hurt someones feelings"
    kind of guy....we got enough of those pussy's around as it is. :lol:

    Godfather.

    these politics rock!!!!!!! classy!! your support of ted nugent says alot about you.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=757_1187963465&p=1


    :yawn: .......wait was that a compliment ? ....me and the Nuge ! YEAAAHHHHH !!!! thanks buddy !
    thank you for your kindness it's nice to know that there are other Americans that have the heart to stand up for their freedoms and what they know is right. :thumbup: have a nice day !


    Godfather.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    nothing says freedom better then machine guns, sand drilling, and cat scratch fever! :thumbup:
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CH156378 wrote:
    nothing says freedom better then machine guns, sand drilling, and cat scratch fever! :thumbup:

    spirit of the buffalo ! :lol:

    Godfather.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    seventeen by winger :lol:
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    american hereo, eh???

    Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?Reported by Ellen - August 26, 2007 - Comments (94)

    http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/pro ... ng_him.php

    Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?

    One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

    But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:

    "… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
    The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.

    (Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

    Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    american hereo, eh???

    Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?Reported by Ellen - August 26, 2007 - Comments (94)

    http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/pro ... ng_him.php

    Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?

    One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

    But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:

    "… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
    The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.

    (Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

    Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
    was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I know guy's that went and guy's "dodged" the draft, when I turned 18 I had to go to the post office and sign up for the draft and Viet nam had just ended a year or so earlier but the draft was still in effect...scared the barn yard shit right out of me cuz I grown up watching the war on t.v...but anyway my question to you Gimmi what would you have done ? knowing that it was supposed to be a police action not a testing ground for the latest weapondry and full scale war we did not need, if drafted I knew back then I would go war time or not if I had to....I was just trying to find a way to keep my hair in the military just in case :lol:


    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.

    Godfather.

    So your response to the proof that Ted Nugent is a loud-mouthed draft-dodging fake, is to ask 'Was Obama ever in the military?'

    :problem:


    Ted Nugent fans on the Pearl Jam message board. This place really has sunk to a new low.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.

    Godfather.

    So your response to the proof that Ted Nugent is a loud-mouthed draft-dodging fake, is to ask 'Was Obama ever in the military?'

    :problem:


    Ted Nugent fans on the Pearl Jam message board. This place really has sunk to a new low.

    it did that when a man who claims to be DB Cooper jumped in.....but that's one of the reasons I like this place, check this out. http://www.youtube.com/embed/-McpNtHet3w I'll bet you The Nuge can balance his budget

    Godfather.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Godfather. wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    american hereo, eh???

    Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?Reported by Ellen - August 26, 2007 - Comments (94)

    http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/pro ... ng_him.php

    Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?

    One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

    But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:

    "… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
    The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.

    (Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

    Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
    was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.

    Godfather.

    it amuses me that anyone who hates Democratic politicians call their supporters people who "blindly support". the point is not that Obama was or was not ever in the military, the point is your hero Nuge claims to be some geniune tough guy born and bred uh-MUUR-ican walking around like some militia man when in reality he's just a chicken shit hypocrite.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    american hereo, eh???

    Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?Reported by Ellen - August 26, 2007 - Comments (94)

    http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/pro ... ng_him.php

    Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?

    One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

    But that hasn’t stopped Nugent from insisting that if he HAD served, he would have been one big mofo soldier. As the Rutland Herald reported, Here's what Nugent said he would have done if he went to Vietnam:

    "… if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990."
    The Herald also noted that Nugent’s efforts to avoid the draft make President Bush look like a war hero.

    (Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

    Sean Hannity went to ridiculous lengths Friday night (8/24/07) to defend Nugent's threatening rants against Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. FOX & Friends whitewashed Nugent's comments the next day. Apparently, this "patriot" can do no wrong on the "We like America" network.
    was obama ever in the military ?... he pulls off the biggest scam of the century and actually get's thousands to vote him into office (comander and chief ?) who blindly support and follow him right off the cliff.

    Godfather.

    it amuses me that anyone who hates Democratic politicians call their supporters people who "blindly support". the point is not that Obama was or was not ever in the military, the point is your hero Nuge claims to be some geniune tough guy born and bred uh-MUUR-ican walking around like some militia man when in reality he's just a chicken shit hypocrite.

    did I hurt your obama-ite feelings ?....sorry,maybe next election we'll get a real man in the white house...and I don't care what party he comes from but I think I may vote for ....not real sure yet but sure as shit won't be the sissy we got in there now. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    not to add insult to injury but I got this for ya HFD...nice read so enjoy !

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... to-gallup/

    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    not to add insult to injury but I got this for ya HFD...nice read so enjoy !

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... to-gallup/

    Godfather.

    You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?

    A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.

    Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.

    Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    not to add insult to injury but I got this for ya HFD...nice read so enjoy !

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... to-gallup/

    Godfather.

    You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?

    A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.

    Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.

    Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.

    Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat with Godfather. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    not to add insult to injury but I got this for ya HFD...nice read so enjoy !

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... to-gallup/

    Godfather.

    You people won't be happy until America becomes the new Third Reich, will you?

    A country led by a war-mongering megalomaniac with some warped ideology, and/or 'religious' conviction, that will destroy the lives of millions.

    Something like your gobshite poster boy Ted Nugent, but in a suit and tie.

    Unfortunately, the way things are going, your wish will probably come true in both of our lifetimes.
    :lol: us "people" are just tired of bad government and over taxation and everytime some whinnie sissy want's to give billions to other countrys or open our borders to anybody or let American business' out-source American jobs or everytime some dirt bag uses a gun in a crime they want to create a new gun law and one other thing...two of the most important instutions in this country are schools and military but they seem to be a target for cut's way too often,I don't like war and think we should never have went to afgan or syria ?..we should have just smoked bin laden and split but that dosen't mean we cut the military budget we must be prerared....so is that the kinda people you are talking about ? "we" don't want a third reich we want America back with out all the panzie bullshit and offering it up to anybody with the money to buy it's business' and/or any part of it.....I think you call "us" RedNecks but we are Americans. ;)


    Godfather.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Godfather. wrote:
    :lol: us "people" are just tired of bad government and over taxation and everytime some whinnie sissy want's to give billions to other countrys or open our borders to anybody or let American business' out-source American jobs or everytime some dirt bag uses a gun in a crime they want to create a new gun law and one other thing...two of the most important instutions in this country are schools and military but they seem to be a target for cut's way too often,I don't like war and think we should never have went to afgan or syria ?..we should have just smoked bin laden and split but that dosen't mean we cut the military budget we must be prerared....so is that the kinda people you are talking about ? "we" don't want a third reich we want America back with out all the panzie bullshit and offering it up to anybody with the money to buy it's business' and/or any part of it.....I think you call "us" RedNecks but we are Americans. ;)


    Godfather.

    Hey now, don't go and bunch all of us in the same boat. Fox News / Nugent fans are not the majority here. Although it may seem like it at times...

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