OP: When you ask serious questions, you get serious answers. Playing cut and paste google scholar in an attempt to insult people and thwart real discussion, is just wasting time.
Obviously? What is obvious to you about what I have or haven't read? The only known factor here is that you have some knowledge about one Vonnegut book that you may or may not have read.
Something of substance to add to the topic Gimme, or just coming on to insult and abuse?
no, but maybe that should be your avatar.
i have added to the discussion.
i said the tea party is responsible in part for what has happened. the other responsibilty lies with obama for settling on a stinker of a deal just to pass anything.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Something of substance to add to the topic Gimme, or just coming on to insult and abuse?
no, but maybe that should be your avatar.
i have added to the discussion.
i said the tea party is responsible in part for what has happened. the other responsibilty lies with obama for settling on a stinker of a deal just to pass anything.
Obama did lay a stinker. I agree with you on that.
I did have an avatar pic showing the way I like to abuse Ronald McDonald, but some nice PJ fan reported me and I had to change it....
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AGAIN. Derogatory terms are not acceptable in these forums. Do a search of your friendly neighborhood moderator's posts for today and see what was said if you missed seeing it on the locked thread.
DO NOT use derogatory terms here. Teabagger is derogatory and adds nothing to the discussion and it doesn't matter if some called themselves that before they knew what it meant. Tea Party members are insulted by it and so you can't do it.
defining why the tea party is or isn't bad for america.
to do this we first have to define how we want to see America. what values do we want America to have? i personally think that this is the reason why we can't answer that questions.
The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.
I think we've proven my point today.
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The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.
I think we've proven my point today.
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Do you think you're more intelligent that others on here, like myself, that side more with an ideology that opposes increasing the government's size? If so, please tell me why.
And while the Tea People whine about a name they used first and then decided was embarrassing... they've managed to rev up the phony indignation machine.
And derail the thread.
And refuse to answer any real questions.
No... the tea party is NOT responsible for this mess. That's the fault of George W Bush and his cronies.
The Tea Party, however, have stated that their main purpose is to ruin the country and take down the president. Kind of economic terrorism from within. So the Tea Party can be blamed for the complete lack of attention paid to the problem.
Much like this thread... complaining about a name and avoiding the issues.
isn't wanting to purposely crash the economy or purposely damage your own country for political reasons and undermine your government a form of treason?
hmmm....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
phony indignation
And refuse to answer any real questions.
Kind of economic terrorism from within.
avoiding the issues.
there's your answer inlet13
Where? I don't see it. This answers that you consider yourself more intelligent than someone, such as myself, who doesn't think enlarging government is a "good"? Please explain. I don't see,... maybe because I'm stupid.
phony indignation
And refuse to answer any real questions.
Kind of economic terrorism from within.
avoiding the issues.
there's your answer inlet13
Where? I don't see it. This answers that you consider yourself more intelligent than someone, such as myself, who doesn't think enlarging government is a "good"? Please explain. I don't see,... maybe because I'm stupid.
i don't think any of this is a debate about your intelligence. you think your philosophy is right, i think mine is right and we will see on election day. i just happen to think that the republican platform and their positions on almost every issue is wrong...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Where? I don't see it. This answers that you consider yourself more intelligent than someone, such as myself, who doesn't think enlarging government is a "good"? Please explain. I don't see,... maybe because I'm stupid.
Let's see... phony indignation ("you're calling me STUPID!!"), derailing the thread ("This is about ENLARGING THE GOVERNMENT" - and no, it's not) and refusing the answer any of the topics... just playing like you don't understand the questions.
i don't think any of this is a debate about your intelligence. you think your philosophy is right, i think mine is right and we will see on election day. i just happen to think that the republican platform and their positions on almost every issue is wrong...
I respect that. But, honestly, I suggest you look at your "side of the issue" on here. Particularly a few, including the one I quoted - for instance, that individually clearly thinks they "are more intelligent" than tea party supporters. That's ridiculous. That person doesn't know how intelligent tea party supporters are.
P.S. I agree. I think that someone could be way more intelligent than myself and see the world through a different viewpoint. That doesn't mean I think they are right on the issue. It means, I'm not insulting intelligence. Trying to say anyone who disagrees with me regarding polarizing issues, "is stupid"... shows a lack of intelligence ( or at least the lack of an open mind ) in the accuser in my opinion.
isn't wanting to purposely crash the economy or purposely damage your own country for political reasons and undermine your government a form of treason?
hmmm....
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You think the average person who believes in limiting government is not as smart as you?
I believe that I'm more intelligent than the vast majority of people attending Tea Party rallies. And I believe that, for the most part, those same people attending the rallies don't actually know what they believe in.
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You think the average person who believes in limiting government is not as smart as you?
I believe that I'm more intelligent than the vast majority of people attending Tea Party rallies. And I believe that, for the most part, those same people attending the rallies don't actually know what they believe in.
I would put heavy money on the fact that an average person at that rally is more intelligent than you are. From what I've seen, you've shown absolutely no intelligence in any of your points thus far. What I've seen is an instigator, with limited intelligence. I may be wrong, but instigating here... does little to nothing. If you have a point to debate.... do it, but trying to spark debates about the intelligence of a group of people is silly.
You think the average person who believes in limiting government is not as smart as you?
i said it is not about intelligence, but since you asked, yes i do believe that i am more intelligent in some areas than your average person attending a tea party rally, especially those with the signs. i've got a master's degree and i can say that based on those tea partiers that i know personally most of them barely finished high school and have dead end jobs, but boy do they love glen beck and feel sorry for those billionaires who are so heavily taxed....
it is not about intelligence, it is about perspective, and it is about ethics and right and wrong and being well informed. i am not well informed on everything, does that make me a dumbshit? no it doesn't. i can hold my own on most topics on this forum and i can guarantee that the people in those pictures are not well informed. read what they wrote and the sheer ignorance in their signs. they know just enough about the issues to make them dangerous.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
What I've seen is an instigator, with limited intelligence. I may be wrong, but instigating here... does little to nothing. If you have a point to debate.... do it, but trying to spark debates about the intelligence of a group of people is silly.
please refer back to my original post.
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Obviously? What is obvious to you about what I have or haven't read? The only known factor here is that you have some knowledge about one Vonnegut book that you may or may not have read.
I have said nothing.
Peace.
playing it like James O'Keefe
btw, does anybody else think that guy looks like maynard from tool?
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i have added to the discussion.
i said the tea party is responsible in part for what has happened. the other responsibilty lies with obama for settling on a stinker of a deal just to pass anything.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Obama did lay a stinker. I agree with you on that.
I did have an avatar pic showing the way I like to abuse Ronald McDonald, but some nice PJ fan reported me and I had to change it....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I see where you're going with that, but equating this one to the use of the "N-Word" is ridiculous. (And a HUGE stretch)
defining why the tea party is or isn't bad for america.
DO NOT use derogatory terms here. Teabagger is derogatory and adds nothing to the discussion and it doesn't matter if some called themselves that before they knew what it meant. Tea Party members are insulted by it and so you can't do it.
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to do this we first have to define how we want to see America. what values do we want America to have? i personally think that this is the reason why we can't answer that questions.
I think we've proven my point today.
:roll:
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Do you think you're more intelligent that others on here, like myself, that side more with an ideology that opposes increasing the government's size? If so, please tell me why.
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And derail the thread.
And refuse to answer any real questions.
No... the tea party is NOT responsible for this mess. That's the fault of George W Bush and his cronies.
The Tea Party, however, have stated that their main purpose is to ruin the country and take down the president. Kind of economic terrorism from within. So the Tea Party can be blamed for the complete lack of attention paid to the problem.
Much like this thread... complaining about a name and avoiding the issues.
there's your answer inlet13
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hmmm....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Where? I don't see it. This answers that you consider yourself more intelligent than someone, such as myself, who doesn't think enlarging government is a "good"? Please explain. I don't see,... maybe because I'm stupid.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Let's see... phony indignation ("you're calling me STUPID!!"), derailing the thread ("This is about ENLARGING THE GOVERNMENT" - and no, it's not) and refusing the answer any of the topics... just playing like you don't understand the questions.
So... there you go.
Thanks. I'm right. And you just proved it.
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I respect that. But, honestly, I suggest you look at your "side of the issue" on here. Particularly a few, including the one I quoted - for instance, that individually clearly thinks they "are more intelligent" than tea party supporters. That's ridiculous. That person doesn't know how intelligent tea party supporters are.
P.S. I agree. I think that someone could be way more intelligent than myself and see the world through a different viewpoint. That doesn't mean I think they are right on the issue. It means, I'm not insulting intelligence. Trying to say anyone who disagrees with me regarding polarizing issues, "is stupid"... shows a lack of intelligence ( or at least the lack of an open mind ) in the accuser in my opinion.
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we're gonna need a bigger yard arm
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You think the average person who believes in limiting government is not as smart as you?
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I believe that I'm more intelligent than the vast majority of people attending Tea Party rallies. And I believe that, for the most part, those same people attending the rallies don't actually know what they believe in.
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I would put heavy money on the fact that an average person at that rally is more intelligent than you are. From what I've seen, you've shown absolutely no intelligence in any of your points thus far. What I've seen is an instigator, with limited intelligence. I may be wrong, but instigating here... does little to nothing. If you have a point to debate.... do it, but trying to spark debates about the intelligence of a group of people is silly.
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I have not received squat from said government. Name what I've received. I've been taxed out my ass.... but, haven't gotten squat.
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it is not about intelligence, it is about perspective, and it is about ethics and right and wrong and being well informed. i am not well informed on everything, does that make me a dumbshit? no it doesn't. i can hold my own on most topics on this forum and i can guarantee that the people in those pictures are not well informed. read what they wrote and the sheer ignorance in their signs. they know just enough about the issues to make them dangerous.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The state of Pennsylvania receives aid from the Federal Government. So you do benefit. Aid is more than just social programs.
Here's an example:
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=56621
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Name one item I should return my money for?
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please refer back to my original post.
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