The tea party is not responsible for this mess

arthurdent

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

fife

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

care to elaborate on this? I personally don't blame the tea party per ce. i blame a culture in which individuality trumps the collective.

mickeyrat

arthurdent wrote:

An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

So how do you propose to change this?

polaris_x

mickeyrat wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

So how do you propose to change this?

education ...

arthurdent

fife wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

care to elaborate on this? I personally don't blame the tea party per ce. i blame a culture in which individuality trumps the collective.

I blame a culture of mediocrity, a culture where the best and the brightest are no longer held in high regard. All men are NOT created equal, and it is the responsibility of the government to make them so. So rather than raising our standards, we lower them to the point where ignorance is celebrated.

Idiocracy is real, and it's just around the corner.

inlet13

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

Please explain something to me... anyone...

Did the Tea Party spend any government money? If so, how did they spend it? Also, explain to me this, did the Tea Party lower taxes? If so, how did they do that?

I'll wait for a real answer to these questions.

arthurdent

polaris_x wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

So how do you propose to change this?

education ...

exactly.

fife

arthurdent wrote:

fife wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

care to elaborate on this? I personally don't blame the tea party per ce. i blame a culture in which individuality trumps the collective.

I blame a culture of mediocrity, a culture where the best and the brightest are no longer held in high regard. All men are NOT created equal, and it is the responsibility of the government to make them so. So rather than raising our standards, we lower them to the point where ignorance is celebrated.

Idiocracy is real, and it's just around the corner.

how do you classify the best and the brightest?

fife

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So how do you propose to change this?[/quote]

education ...[/quote]

exactly.[/quote]

education in what?

81

you wanna know what hte real problem in the united states?

greed.

it comes in dems, reps and tea's.

we sent jobs over seas
we warred for oil
we tax the shit out of everything, and then let the powers that be fleece us and put that money into their own pockets.
we bail out the too big to fail
auto unions

arthurdent

81 wrote:

you wanna know what hte real problem in the united states?

greed.

greed is in our very nature. it's hardwired into our very DNA. Ever since the first caveman clubbed another caveman to get a better piece of food, greed is part of what makes us human.

Blockhead

81 wrote:

you wanna know what hte real problem in the united states?

greed.

it comes in dems, reps and tea's.

we sent jobs over seas
we warred for oil
we tax the shit out of everything, and then let the powers that be fleece us and put that money into their own pockets.
we bail out the too big to fail
auto unions

Isn't survival greed?
Greed is natural selection at its finest...

81

there is good greed, if you want to use the term greed, and that drives us to have a fruitful life, and create value in that life.

than there is bad greed, where people try and screw each other over, and do anything and everything to fill their chest full of gold.

arthurdent

satansbed wrote:

just don't call them teabaggers

didn't they call themselves that first?

81

uh oh

gimmesometruth27

arthurdent wrote:

satansbed wrote:

just don't call them teabaggers

didn't they call themselves that first?

depends on who you ask i guess...

the problem is you can not fix ignorance and apathy.
we have pills for hair growth and erectile dysfunction but there is nothing we can do to combat ignorance or give people empathy.

no matter how many facts you put in front of people they see things how they see them and will fight you every step of the way. you can not educate those who refuse to be educated.

Parachute

arthurdent wrote:

fife wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

care to elaborate on this? I personally don't blame the tea party per ce. i blame a culture in which individuality trumps the collective.

I blame a culture of mediocrity, a culture where the best and the brightest are no longer held in high regard. All men are NOT created equal, and it is the responsibility of the government to make them so. So rather than raising our standards, we lower them to the point where ignorance is celebrated.

Idiocracy is real, and it's just around the corner.

Single-handedly tore up the Declaration of Independence w/ this philosophy...

What isn't the responsibility of Government in your esteemed opinion?

arthurdent

Parachute wrote:

Single-handedly tore up the Declaration of Independence w/ this philosophy...

What isn't the responsibility of Government in your esteemed opinion?

sorry, I guess you missed the Harrison Bergeron reference. :(

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... certainty/


is Obama a teapartier ?


Godfather.

inlet13

inlet13 wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

The Tea Party movement only exists to meet the demand of poorly educated political consumers. It's time to start calling out those who ARE responsible. You, Your Family, Your Neighbors, Your Friends. An ignorant and gullible electorate created the Tea Party. They are to blame.

Please explain something to me... anyone...

Did the Tea Party spend any government money? If so, how did they spend it? Also, explain to me this, did the Tea Party lower taxes? If so, how did they do that?

I'll wait for a real answer to these questions.

And..........nothing... still waiting.

arthurdent

inlet13 wrote:

Did the Tea Party spend any government money? If so, how did they spend it? Also, explain to me this, did the Tea Party lower taxes? If so, how did they do that?

I'll wait for a real answer to these questions.

Did the Tea Party spend government money? Short answer, yes:
http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/201 ... -security/

Did the tea party lower taxes? No.

fife

arthurdent wrote:

81 wrote:

you wanna know what hte real problem in the united states?

greed.

greed is in our very nature. it's hardwired into our very DNA. Ever since the first caveman clubbed another caveman to get a better piece of food, greed is part of what makes us human.

while yes we are greedy by nature, i don't believe we are excessively greedy. now a days we have gotten to the point that if we don't get everything we want we must blame others.

Parachute

satansbed wrote:

just don't call them teabaggers

Reported.

So sick of this shit.

Parachute

arthurdent wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

Did the Tea Party spend any government money? If so, how did they spend it? Also, explain to me this, did the Tea Party lower taxes? If so, how did they do that?

I'll wait for a real answer to these questions.

Did the Tea Party spend government money? Short answer, yes:
http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/201 ... -security/

Did the tea party lower taxes? No.

haha. Brilliant post. Keep em coming.

arthurdent

Parachute wrote:

satansbed wrote:

just don't call them teabaggers

Reported.

So sick of this shit.

seriously, though? I thought Fox News came up with that term after seeing the lady with tea bags on her hat?

inlet13

arthurdent wrote:

Did the Tea Party spend government money? Short answer, yes:
http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/201 ... -security/.

First, your short answer has absolutely no facts behind it. Did they spend government money? If so, when and how?

Second, the article you referenced doesn't have anything to do with how they "SPENT" (past tense) money. It's more along the lines of what they would like to do with "Spending" (future tense).

arthurdent wrote:

Did the tea party lower taxes? No.

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This part I agree with because they haven't done squat yet.


When you get down to it. They're too new to have done anything substantial. Therefore, blaming them is absolutely ridiculous. It's like blaming a group of people who were calling the police about a fire overtaking the city. They didn't set it, they were warning people about it.

Parachute

arthurdent wrote:

Parachute wrote:

Single-handedly tore up the Declaration of Independence w/ this philosophy...

What isn't the responsibility of Government in your esteemed opinion?

sorry, I guess you missed the Harrison Bergeron reference. :(

Oh.... of course..... How could I forget.... I even have this tattoo....

arthurdent

inlet13 wrote:

First, your short answer has absolutely no facts behind it. Did they spend government money? If so, when and how?

Where do you think social security, medicare and medicaid come from? The magic money fairy? Why are there a disproportionately-high number of government aid recipients who are also tea party supporters?

arthurdent

Parachute wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

Parachute wrote:

Single-handedly tore up the Declaration of Independence w/ this philosophy...

What isn't the responsibility of Government in your esteemed opinion?

sorry, I guess you missed the Harrison Bergeron reference. :(

Oh.... of course..... How could I forget.... I even have this tattoo....

Obviously never read any Vonnegut in high school.

inlet13

arthurdent wrote:

Where do you think social security, medicare and medicaid come from? The magic money fairy? Why are there a disproportionately-high number of government aid recipients who are also tea party supporters?

Did they adjust social security, medicare and medicaid entitlement spending, genius?

The question is (when) and how (specifically) have the Tea Party altered spending?

arthurdent

inlet13 wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

Where do you think social security, medicare and medicaid come from? The magic money fairy? Why are there a disproportionately-high number of government aid recipients who are also tea party supporters?

Did they adjust social security, medicare and medicaid entitlement spending, genius?

The question is (when) and how (specifically) have the Tea Party altered spending?

That wasn't your original question:

Did the Tea Party spend any government money? If so, how did they spend it?