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know1

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

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know1 wrote:

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

fair enough, but don't you want to know who is coming?

81

catefrances wrote:

81 wrote:

so you are ok with any random person walking into the United States any time that they want?

im planning on doing so in october.

i've got a call into my senator

know1

81 wrote:

know1 wrote:

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

fair enough, but don't you want to know who is coming?

Sure. Let them check in and sign something at the border stating they want to be a citizen.

81

know1 wrote:

81 wrote:

know1 wrote:

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

fair enough, but don't you want to know who is coming?

Sure. Let them check in and sign something at the border stating they want to be a citizen.

how do you get them to a check in location vs. just walking on in?

inmytree

81 wrote:

know1 wrote:

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

fair enough, but don't you want to know who is coming?

nope, don't care...

81

inmytree wrote:

81 wrote:

know1 wrote:

I welcome any and all people who truly want to come here and make a living.

I think our immigration policies should be relaxed tremendously.

People are people. They should be able to go and make a living wherever they choose.

fair enough, but don't you want to know who is coming?

nope, don't care...

really?

imo that's the real issue. you don't we should try and do back ground checks on people moving in to the US? it's ok to let known murders, killers, child moelesters in, no questions asked?

inmytree

81 wrote:

really?

imo that's the real issue. you don't we should try and do back ground checks on people moving in to the US? it's ok to let known murders, killers, child moelesters in, no questions asked?

you see, I don't live my life in fear of the "what if"...

I'm pretty sure all those sort of folks are already here...Should we do checks on anyone moving to anywhere...?

This is the land of the free...home of the brave....

be brave, my friend...

cajunkiwi

Parachute wrote:

Building a wall always works.

Just ask China and East-Germans.

Build the wall. And one for Canada while we're at it.

Wait... you're aspiring to be like Cold War-era East Germany?

81

inmytree wrote:

81 wrote:

really?

imo that's the real issue. you don't we should try and do back ground checks on people moving in to the US? it's ok to let known murders, killers, child moelesters in, no questions asked?

you see, I don't live my life in fear of the "what if"...

I'm pretty sure all those sort of folks are already here...Should we do checks on anyone moving to anywhere...?

This is the land of the free...home of the brave....

be brave, my friend...

yes, sadly, we have plenty home grown ciminals. I don't see the need to add more if you can stop it.

you could make an arguement that yes they do check on those people, at least the sex offender people by requiring them to be on a registry.

it's not about being brave, it's about limiting exposure.

cajunkiwi

unsung wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

but if those motherfuckers want to come here to have a better life...fuck them

Not really. They could always just follow the laws to become legal, then they are welcomed.

If they arrive illegally, yeah "fuck them".

Seriously, are you going to make me copy and paste the info I posted a year ago on what it takes to enter America legally? lol

I'll sum up - I've done it, and it's a ridiculously complicated process. I'm married to an American and I have resources at my disposal, and I STILL found the process to be fucked up. If I was a farmer from a small Mexican border town trying to make life better for my family I wouldn't have a shit show in hell of figuring that mess out. The first step in fixing the immigration process shouldn't be a wall, it should be fixing the ridiculous number of hoops you have to jump through.

cajunkiwi

81 wrote:

imo that's the real issue. you don't we should try and do back ground checks on people moving in to the US? it's ok to let known murders, killers, child moelesters in, no questions asked?

There's a big difference between "I'll let you in if you can pass a background check" and "I'm going to build a wall to make sure none of you guys can get in" though.

know1

[quote="81"
how do you get them to a check in location vs. just walking on in?[/quote]

Well, if we make it easy, painless and safe to enter and become citizens, then they don't really have an incentive to sneak in, do they?

81

cajunkiwi wrote:

unsung wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

but if those motherfuckers want to come here to have a better life...fuck them

Not really. They could always just follow the laws to become legal, then they are welcomed.

If they arrive illegally, yeah "fuck them".

Seriously, are you going to make me copy and paste the info I posted a year ago on what it takes to enter America legally? lol

I'll sum up - I've done it, and it's a ridiculously complicated process. I'm married to an American and I have resources at my disposal, and I STILL found the process to be fucked up. If I was a farmer from a small Mexican border town trying to make life better for my family I wouldn't have a shit show in hell of figuring that mess out. The first step in fixing the immigration process shouldn't be a wall, it should be fixing the ridiculous number of hoops you have to jump through.

if you don't like our rules....you can always go home. :P just kidding. this is america, home of the bureacrat

but seriously, i'm not trying to stop pablo the farmer, carlos the lawn mower. but if you don't have some security along the border, than what difference does it make what your immigration policy is?

81

know1 wrote:

[quote="81"
how do you get them to a check in location vs. just walking on in?

Well, if we make it easy, painless and safe to enter and become citizens, then they don't really have an incentive to sneak in, do they?[/quote]


bill the bomber does.

mike the molester does

ken the killer does.

gary the gangbanger does

carlos the cartel does

know1

81 wrote:

bill the bomber does.

mike the molester does

ken the killer does.

gary the gangbanger does

carlos the cartel does

We already have plenty of those here.

As someone else said, why the fear?

I don't understand the mentality of trying to exclude large groups of people based upon an extremely small minority who might not be so nice. It's sort of like making mandatory abortions for all US Citizens to prevent future criminals from being born.

81

know1 wrote:

81 wrote:

know1 wrote:

[quote="81"
how do you get them to a check in location vs. just walking on in?

Well, if we make it easy, painless and safe to enter and become citizens, then they don't really have an incentive to sneak in, do they?

bill the bomber does.

mike the molester does

ken the killer does.

gary the gangbanger does

carlos the cartel does

We already have plenty of those here.

As someone else said, why the fear?

I don't understand the mentality of trying to exclude large groups of people based upon an extremely small minority who might not be so nice. It's sort of like making mandatory abortions for all US Citizens to prevent future criminals from being born.[/quote]


would you let a known sex offender in your house?

are you ok with a known rapist renting a room from your gam gam?

do you want a latin king disciple (or whatever they are called) moving in across the hall from your kids apartment?

know1

81 wrote:

would you let a known sex offender in your house?

are you ok with a known rapist renting a room from your gam gam?

do you want a latin king disciple (or whatever they are called) moving in across the hall from your kids apartment?

I just don't share your fear. I don't want to knowingly put myself or others in danger, but building a fence just because a few of the people who may want to come here might be bad just reeks of extreme paranoia to me.

(and I do not see the correlation between the fence and KNOWINGLY allwoing a child molester into my house).

81

know1 wrote:

(and I do not see the correlation between the fence and KNOWINGLY allwoing a child molester into my house).

so carlos was raping kids down in mexico city...

he decided it would be a good idea to move to the states

but he was turned away at the border since he was a child rapist

he hitches a ride up the road and walks on it.

gets a job painting

you hire a painter to paint little susy q's room

carlos shows up to do the painting....

naw, lets just let every tom dick and harry in. imo, everyone coming to the states needs to go thru customs for screening.

now i'm not saying building a fence is the right way to protect the border and to stop this sort of thing from happening. if the .gov would actually step up and enforce the laws as they stand today, he wouldn't be allowed to get work even today. but there are thousands of companies hiring illegals every day and every one just turns the other way.

Boxes&Books

unsung wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

but if those motherfuckers want to come here to have a better life...fuck them

Not really. They could always just follow the laws to become legal, then they are welcomed.

If they arrive illegally, yeah "fuck them".

My father arrived illegally.
He sacrificed it all. He risked his life in pursuit of a better life for his family. It means the world to me.......

Don't be so disrespectful - not everyone comes here with the intent to milk the US.
I'm guess that if you were starving to death you wouldn't just lay there and die....

Today my Father is an American citizen..... obviously not an American like you, but an American citizen according to the laws of the land.