John Lennon: A Closet Republican

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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    By the way, John Lennon was a closet Republican.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    How does it relate? Apparently your computer doesn't give you squiggly lines to help with reading comprehension. I kid, I kid.

    Because it would surprise me that some heavy-footed activists in their younger days start to "mellow" a bit as they learn more and more and start to find middle ground or even switch sides. It works both ways. The only people that don't ever seem to do that are the politicians because for some reason, people perceive it as a weakness to change a point of view.

    people mellow out for sure but they don't necessarily go from one end to the other ...

    in any case, we are still waiting for examples of left leaning artists who moved to the right when they get older ...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    By the way, John Lennon was a closet Republican.

    According to one person.

    But because this one persons opinion fits your objective of trying to promote conservatism then it must be true.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    john lennon most likely ran with the hell angels, dropped a shit-load of acid and probably worshipped the devil on days he wasn't into jesus or god or karma or buddha... yes/no?
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    chadwick wrote:
    john lennon most likely ran with the hell angels, dropped a shit-load of acid and probably worshipped the devil on days he wasn't into jesus or god or karma or buddha... yes/no?

    how about "yes/no/maybe"? :P
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2011
    chadwick wrote:
    john lennon most likely ran with the hell angels, dropped a shit-load of acid and probably worshipped the devil on days he wasn't into jesus or god or karma or buddha... yes/no?

    Yes, but according to one person 'he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter', despite the inconvenient fact that when Jimmy Carter was inaugurated as president in January 1977, Lennon and Ono attended the Inaugural Ball. And despite the other inconvenient fact that everything John Lennon said and did pointed to him being on the left, and staunchly opposed to Conservatism.
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    How does it relate? Apparently your computer doesn't give you squiggly lines to help with reading comprehension. I kid, I kid.

    Because it would surprise me that some heavy-footed activists in their younger days start to "mellow" a bit as they learn more and more and start to find middle ground or even switch sides. It works both ways. The only people that don't ever seem to do that are the politicians because for some reason, people perceive it as a weakness to change a point of view.

    people mellow out for sure but they don't necessarily go from one end to the other ...

    in any case, we are still waiting for examples of left leaning artists who moved to the right when they get older ...


    Said it before, I'll say it again: John Lennon. Also, as I've said earlier in the thread, many may have done just as mentioned and not said anything about it.

    I guess I could use Krist Novoselic. He was elected as a Dem, but recently held up support for Ron Paul for President.

    Regardless of the example I supply, you're just going to continue to ask for more. I already said Johnny Ramone.

    I also honestly think someone like Ed may have moved right. Does that mean he's still left-of-center? Yes. But, do I think he may have shifted right? Yes.

    My overall point: When musicians (or anyone) is young, they think it's conservatives vs. liberals. They may side with liberals. But, as they learn more, they could move to libertarian point of view. That's to moving to the right.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    chadwick wrote:
    john lennon most likely ran with the hell angels, dropped a shit-load of acid and probably worshipped the devil on days he wasn't into jesus or god or karma or buddha... yes/no?
    :D We know that he did drop a shit-load of acid. :mrgreen:
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    inlet13 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    How does it relate? Apparently your computer doesn't give you squiggly lines to help with reading comprehension. I kid, I kid.

    Because it would surprise me that some heavy-footed activists in their younger days start to "mellow" a bit as they learn more and more and start to find middle ground or even switch sides. It works both ways. The only people that don't ever seem to do that are the politicians because for some reason, people perceive it as a weakness to change a point of view.

    people mellow out for sure but they don't necessarily go from one end to the other ...

    in any case, we are still waiting for examples of left leaning artists who moved to the right when they get older ...


    Said it before, I'll say it again: John Lennon. Also, as I've said earlier in the thread, many may have done just as mentioned and not said anything about it.

    I guess I could use Krist Novoselic. He was elected as a Dem, but recently held up support for Ron Paul for President.

    Regardless of the example I supply, you're just going to continue to ask for more. I already said Johnny Ramone.

    I also honestly think someone like Ed may have moved right. Does that mean he's still left-of-center? Yes. But, do I think he may have shifted right? Yes.

    My overall point: When musicians (or anyone) is young, they think it's conservatives vs. liberals. They may side with liberals. But, as they learn more, they could move to libertarian point of view. That's to moving to the right.
    Ask Yoko if he turned Republican then come back to us.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    Said it before, I'll say it again: John Lennon.

    Yeah, we've already covered that one. Try harder!
    inlet13 wrote:
    I already said Johnny Ramone.

    And I already said he was a Republican in his teens, so it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
    inlet13 wrote:
    I also honestly think someone like Ed may have moved right.

    Because he hasn't been so vocal politically recently, therefore he's now on the right?
    Not much of a leap there then! :roll:
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Said it before, I'll say it again: John Lennon.

    Yeah, we've already covered that one. Try harder!
    inlet13 wrote:
    I already said Johnny Ramone.

    And I already said he was a Republican in his teens, so it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
    inlet13 wrote:
    I also honestly think someone like Ed may have moved right.

    Because he hasn't been so vocal politically recently, therefore he's now on the right?
    Not much of a leap there then! :roll:

    Why'd you avoid Krist Novaselic?
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    he had no possessions of any sort too
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    inlet13 wrote:

    I asked you about your spelling. You didn't comment.

    Johnny Ramone is one. He was once quoted saying, "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."

    If you know anything about the Ramones, you'd know that Joey Ramone was a liberal while Johnny was a Republican. And they still got along and made great music while advocating their political stances.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    This inlet13 person is usamammasan, isn't it?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    inlet13 wrote:
    Said it before, I'll say it again: John Lennon. Also, as I've said earlier in the thread, many may have done just as mentioned and not said anything about it.

    I guess I could use Krist Novoselic. He was elected as a Dem, but recently held up support for Ron Paul for President.

    Regardless of the example I supply, you're just going to continue to ask for more. I already said Johnny Ramone.

    I also honestly think someone like Ed may have moved right. Does that mean he's still left-of-center? Yes. But, do I think he may have shifted right? Yes.

    My overall point: When musicians (or anyone) is young, they think it's conservatives vs. liberals. They may side with liberals. But, as they learn more, they could move to libertarian point of view. That's to moving to the right.

    if you are going to ascertain that many people do ... i would think you got more than 1 example ...

    but i suppose your stance is that these artists who have made this epiphany that their leftist ways was wrong are all in the closet ... :?

    all i know is for myself ... the more i get older ... the further left i go ...
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jeanwah wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:

    I asked you about your spelling. You didn't comment.

    Johnny Ramone is one. He was once quoted saying, "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."

    If you know anything about the Ramones, you'd know that Joey Ramone was a liberal while Johnny was a Republican. And they still got along and made great music while advocating their political stances.
    i know the Ramones drive me to drink
    can't stand 'em
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    Why'd you avoid Krist Novaselic?

    Why did it take you all day to find just one example?
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Why'd you avoid Krist Novaselic?

    Why did it take you all day to find just one example?


    as predicted...
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    How does it relate? Apparently your computer doesn't give you squiggly lines to help with reading comprehension. I kid, I kid.

    Because it would surprise me that some heavy-footed activists in their younger days start to "mellow" a bit as they learn more and more and start to find middle ground or even switch sides. It works both ways. The only people that don't ever seem to do that are the politicians because for some reason, people perceive it as a weakness to change a point of view.

    people mellow out for sure but they don't necessarily go from one end to the other ...

    in any case, we are still waiting for examples of left leaning artists who moved to the right when they get older ...


    Happened with a actor. ;)

    True it is unlikely to swing from one end to the other, but it is certainly possible, no?
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Happened with a actor. ;)

    True it is unlikely to swing from one end to the other, but it is certainly possible, no?

    ya ... good thing it wasn't one of the smart ones ... hahaha

    no one is saying it isn't possible ... like i said, it for sure happens and likely both ways ... a friend of mine who grew up conservative (she's 73 now) is very leftist now ... her friends ask her why and she says "i've seen the light" ... hahaha

    the point tho is that inlet13 is saying leftist viewpoint is wrong ... not even that he disagrees with it ... but that it's wrong! ... and he says by saying many musicians grow older and go from left to right ... this based strictly on one person ...

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