John Lennon: A Closet Republican

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    How many times did George W. Bush travel beyond the borders of the U.S? Was it once, or twice?

    Is he an example of a wise and wordly Republican?

    And what about the other Conservative clowns, Palin & Bachmann? Are these people supposed to be considered grown-up and wordly?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    inlet13 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Keep the "change" coming, I'll keep selling short.
    i am not talking about obama.

    neither am i.
    good.

    but i stand by my point.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    neither am i.

    I asked you to provide any more examples of musicians becoming conservative, despite the case of John Lennon being highly debatable.

    Why have you not been able to provide any? You got all giddy and excited after reading the OP so I figured you must have been able to provide at least one other example.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    good.

    but i stand by my point.

    Awesome. So, do I.
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Even if this is true... all it proves is that Jimmy Carter's Presidency could turn anyone into a Republican.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    neither am i.

    I asked you to provide any more examples of musicians becoming conservative, despite the case of John Lennon being highly debatable.

    Why have you not been able to provide any? You got all giddy and excited after reading the OP so I figured you must have been able to provide at least one other example.
    i can't think of any....pete seeger is as old as the earth itself and he is in no way a conservative.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    neither am i.

    I asked you to provide any more examples of musicians becoming conservative, despite the case of John Lennon being highly debatable.

    Why have you not been able to provide any? You got all giddy and excited after reading the OP so I figured you must have been able to provide at least one other example.


    I asked you about your spelling. You didn't comment.

    Johnny Ramone is one. He was once quoted saying, "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    Johnny Ramone is one. He was once quoted saying, "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."

    No he isn't. Johnny Ramone was a Republican in his teens.

    inlet13 wrote:
    Spelling helps improve people's perception of your intelligence by the way.


    Is that right?
    inlet13 wrote:
    I don't even know what you're talking about. Examples of what? Examples of people tuning more conservative as they age?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    i like when people attack people like byrnzie's spelling when they have no rebuttal....

    sometimes it looks less bush league to just say nothing.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    ha ha.... From what I've read by you on here, I honestly think they are much more grown-up and knowledgeable than you are.


    Sure they are.

    Palin believes Creationism should be taught in schools, believes the U.S. Army is on a mission from God, and believes rape victims should be forced to bear the child of their rapist.

    Bachmann believes Carbon dioxide isn't harmful to humans, is a born-again Christian, and believes Macarthyist witch-hunts, and 'anti-American' activities committees should be re-introduced.


    Clearly these are people you regard as 'grown-up' and 'worldly'. Or maybe not, but just because they happen to be conservatives you'll support them regardless of how bat-shit crazy they are.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    inlet13 wrote:
    ha ha.... From what I've read by you on here, I honestly think they are much more grown-up and knowledgeable than you are. Spelling helps improve people's perception of your intelligence by the way.

    uhhh ... i would say some of the worst spellers on here are conservatives ... so, careful what you post ...

    also, i think a good way of supporting your argument here is actually providing examples ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    polaris_x wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    ha ha.... From what I've read by you on here, I honestly think they are much more grown-up and knowledgeable than you are. Spelling helps improve people's perception of your intelligence by the way.

    uhhh ... i would say some of the worst spellers on here are conservatives ... so, careful what you post ...

    Really? You're going to pile on this spelling thing? ;)

    It's not surprising that anyone's opinions and views change as they experience more things in life. If you aren't constantly re-evaluating your views and potentially changing them based upon recent learnings or experiences, then shame on you. As long as you can explain the reason behind your change in stance, there is no shame.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    john lennon is godfather
    godfather is john lennon
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Really? You're going to pile on this spelling thing? ;)

    It's not surprising that anyone's opinions and views change as they experience more things in life. If you aren't constantly re-evaluating your views and potentially changing them based upon recent learnings or experiences, then shame on you. As long as you can explain the reason behind your change in stance, there is no shame.

    the funny part about the spelling is ... (at least on my computer) ... it gives you the squiggly lines to tell you spelled something wrong ... and it gives you the right spelling ... so, really it's just laziness ...

    i agree with your point ... but how does it relate to this thread!? ... i'm sure people in general shift their political views probably just as many go one way vs. another ...

    the discussion with inlet13 is that he believes a lot of artists start out leaning left and then shift to the right ... some of us would like some examples to prove this ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Really? You're going to pile on this spelling thing? ;)

    It's not surprising that anyone's opinions and views change as they experience more things in life. If you aren't constantly re-evaluating your views and potentially changing them based upon recent learnings or experiences, then shame on you. As long as you can explain the reason behind your change in stance, there is no shame.

    the funny part about the spelling is ... (at least on my computer) ... it gives you the squiggly lines to tell you spelled something wrong ... and it gives you the right spelling ... so, really it's just laziness ...

    i agree with your point ... but how does it relate to this thread!? ... i'm sure people in general shift their political views probably just as many go one way vs. another ...

    the discussion with inlet13 is that he believes a lot of artists start out leaning left and then shift to the right ... some of us would like some examples to prove this ...

    How does it relate? Apparently your computer doesn't give you squiggly lines to help with reading comprehension. I kid, I kid.

    Because it would surprise me that some heavy-footed activists in their younger days start to "mellow" a bit as they learn more and more and start to find middle ground or even switch sides. It works both ways. The only people that don't ever seem to do that are the politicians because for some reason, people perceive it as a weakness to change a point of view.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    ha ha.... From what I've read by you on here, I honestly think they are much more grown-up and knowledgeable than you are.


    Sure they are.

    Palin believes Creationism should be taught in schools, believes the U.S. Army is on a mission from God, and believes rape victims should be forced to bear the child of their rapist.

    Bachmann believes Carbon dioxide isn't harmful to humans, is a born-again Christian, and believes Macarthyist witch-hunts, and 'anti-American' activities committees should be re-introduced.


    Clearly these are people you regard as 'grown-up' and 'worldly'. Or maybe not, but just because they happen to be conservatives you'll support them regardless of how bat-shit crazy they are.

    I think Palin and Obama are grown ups. I never used the word "worldly" to my knowledge. I did use the word mature... and I also think both of these individuals are mature.

    I don't support Palin. I also don't support Obama. If I had to pick, I'd hesitantly pick Palin. But, I absolutely do not support her.

    Anyway, I don't blindly pledge allegiance to a party. I dislike and do not favor a lot of ideals that are Pro-Republican. The same, most likely, can't be said of many who lean left on here.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    I don't support Palin. I also don't support Obama. If I had to pick, I'd hesitantly pick Palin. But, I absolutely do not support her.

    So you admit that your vote - and perhaps even you're entire political stance rests on being anti-Democrat? You're not 'for' anything, just anti-something - Democratic politics.

    Would you vote for Charles Manson if he ran for President on a Republican ticket?
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    I don't support Palin. I also don't support Obama. If I had to pick, I'd hesitantly pick Palin. But, I absolutely do not support her.

    So you admit that your vote - and perhaps even you're entire political stance rests on being anti-Democrat? You're not 'for' anything, just anti-something - Democratic politics.

    Would you vote for Charles Manson if he ran for President on a Republican ticket?


    Wow. I can't believe I actually discuss political issues here. This is a mature argument.

    No, I never said my entire political stance rests on being anti-Democrat. I just finished saying that I don't support all Republican ideals. Can you actually read?

    I would not vote for Charles Manson if he ran for President. That was a really dumb argument. I don't know why I am engaging in this trivial nonsense.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    inlet13 wrote:
    I just finished saying that I don't support all Republican ideals.

    No, but you'd still vote for them if it meant casting a vote against a Democrat, right?
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Byrnzie wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    I just finished saying that I don't support all Republican ideals.

    No, but you'd still vote for them if it meant casting a vote against a Democrat, right?

    No, I wouldn't. I would vote Libertarian most likely.

    This is dumb.
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