Bachmann is

Hugh Freaking Dillon

why do so many Republicans on this board whine that "there is no middle ground on this left-leaning board" just because people don't agree with you? it's a tired argument. stop whining.

it's laughable that people are "scared" of Bachmann. She's no more a threat than Big Bird. Oh, and I love the "she's real, that's why she makes mistakes" idea. Do you really want someone who doesn't know the difference between a fictional hero and a real life serial killer or presidents and founding fathers to be the creator of foreign policy in times of war?? Come on, people, this isn't your union rep you are electing, it's the fucking president. get real.

Joke as you must about the "president vs founding fathers" quote as being inconsequential. But knowing US history is a HUGE part of being able to make informed decisions as the president. this is a major character flaw (for a sitting president) that shouldn't be ignored.

gimmesometruth27

bachmann is.....

a fucking liar and a hypocrite....

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds
Presidential candidate has often blasted growing welfare programs

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43570552/ns ... sion_2012/

While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.

The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request.

The clinic, based in Lake Elmo, Minn., describes itself on its website as offering "quality Christian counseling" for a large number of mental health problems ranging from "anger management" to addictions and eating disorders.

The $161,000 in payments from the Minnesota Department of Human Services to her husband's clinic appear to contradict some of Michelle Bachmann's public accounts this week when she was first asked about the extent to which her family has benefited from government aid. Contacted this afternoon, Alice Stewart, a spokeswoman for Bachmann, said the congresswoman was doing campaign events and was not immediately available for comment.

Questions about the Bachmann family's receipt of government funds arose this week after a Los Angeles Times story reported that a family farm in which Michelle Bachmann is a partner had received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies.

When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."

At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," adding that it was "mental health training money that went to the employees."

But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates are for the treatment of low-income mentally ill patients and are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided.

Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. But the state does not have any records of payment information to the individual clinics that participate. (During her Fox News appearance, Bachmann was not asked about Medicaid payments, and she made no mention of them.)

Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said.

"The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. But she had no immediate information about whether the clinic passed it along directly to the employees being trained or used it to cover its costs of training.

The issue of her receipt of government aid has gotten attention because Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care, including the expansions of Medicaid called for under the new health care law.

When Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed an executive order earlier this year expanding the state's Medicaid program for more than 95,000 state residents, Bachmann was joined state Republican lawmakers in denouncing the move.

"Right now, Governor Dayton is wanting to commit Minnesota taxpayers to add even more welfare recipients on the welfare rolls at a very great cost," Bachmann said at a news conference in St. Paul in January.

"She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them."

Byrnzie

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

why do so many Republicans on this board whine that "there is no middle ground on this left-leaning board" just because people don't agree with you? it's a tired argument. stop whining.

it's laughable that people are "scared" of Bachmann. She's no more a threat than Big Bird. Oh, and I love the "she's real, that's why she makes mistakes" idea. Do you really want someone who doesn't know the difference between a fictional hero and a real life serial killer or presidents and founding fathers to be the creator of foreign policy in times of war?? Come on, people, this isn't your union rep you are electing, it's the fucking president. get real.

Joke as you must about the "president vs founding fathers" quote as being inconsequential. But knowing US history is a HUGE part of being able to make informed decisions as the president. this is a major character flaw (for a sitting president) that shouldn't be ignored.

True, but when all is said and done, the big money in America will get behind whoever does their bidding. What they want is a rubber-stamp, period.

usamamasan1

If it means I get to keep more than half of my hard earned money.

Stamp it

If it means I am for a strong military.

Stamp it

If it means The American Dream can be resurrected.

Stamp it

Byrnzie

usamamasan1 wrote:

If it means I get to keep more than half of my hard earned money.

Stamp it

If it means I am for a strong military.

Stamp it

If it means The American Dream can be resurrected.

Stamp it

Regarding point 3, the American Dream will never become a reality as long as the greed of a few (point 1) and the suffering of millions abroad at the hands of the U.S military (point 2) continue unabated.

So dream on.

usamamasan1

it is a reality.

and don't be pissed when we print more money to make our debt to China (and everyone) worth less. It's part of the ongoing plan of

WINNING

(and yes to all you "all i want is the truth" google scholars, I understand the consequences of printing more money. Doesn't mean it's not still part of the plan) :?

woot

winners win. losers lose. GW won two elections AFTER his pops. Do you really think the current occupant will win another?

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

black people voted in droves for our first black President. Because he was black in MANY cases. I presume women will do the same if she gets the nom.

OK ok... not quite. Those black voters have traditionally always been democrats. The fact that the Democratic nominee was a black man was HUGE plus for them... but if he'd run for a Republican ticket... most of them probably wouldn't have voted for him.

I seriously doubt that man he would have got 90% of the black vote no matter what party he ran under it was historical election to say the least..for the first time in history a black man had a shot at being elected president,that alone was enough to win just about every black vote in the country..maybe not every one but way more than enough to tip the scales.

Godfather.

keeponrockin

Anyone who is dumb enough to advocate teaching intelligent design in a science classroom will never get my vote.

Jason P

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

bachmann is.........

hit with a cease and desist letter from tom petty...


Tom Petty To Michele Bachmann: Stop Playing 'American Girl'

It's very petty of Tom to take offense of Bachmann using his song.

Byrnzie

Jason P wrote:

It's very petty of Tom to take offense of Bachmann using his song.

I disagree. If someone you regard as a dangerous idiot uses your art to promote their ambition to gain control of your country then it's perfectly reasonable for you to object.

Godfather.

Jason P wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

bachmann is.........

hit with a cease and desist letter from tom petty...


Tom Petty To Michele Bachmann: Stop Playing 'American Girl'

It's very petty of Tom to take offense of Bachmann using his song.

agreed.

Godfather.

Jason P

Byrnzie wrote:

Jason P wrote:

It's very petty of Tom to take offense of Bachmann using his song.

I disagree. If someone you regard as a dangerous idiot uses your art to promote their ambition to gain control of your country then it's perfectly reasonable for you to object.

re-read please

butterjam

Byrnzie wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

If it means I get to keep more than half of my hard earned money.

Stamp it

If it means I am for a strong military.

Stamp it

If it means The American Dream can be resurrected.

Stamp it

Regarding point 3, the American Dream will never become a reality as long as the greed of a few (point 1) and the suffering of millions abroad at the hands of the U.S military (point 2) continue unabated.

So dream on.

The American Dream is still a reality. There is still much opportunity here, I see it everyday in my job and how my company has grown. The Dream can hinder some because of those in power.

But just as important, is the dreams of those abroad, which is what you're trying to say I think. They have the same aspirations that I do here, so maybe we should bring home our military empire abroad instead of engaging in wars and acting as world police.

I agree 100% with your previous point about big money getting behind the candidates to do their bidding. The problem is that they play on both sides of the aisle and hedge their bets so they win no matter what.

But to get back to the topic, Bachmann is basically a more educated and articulate person that Palin. Other than that, they are one in the same. They are more concerned about their image than about articulating how they will change any policy here. I'm sure Palin is pissed off that another female is stealing her thunder.

JonnyPistachio

keeponrockin wrote:

Anyone who is dumb enough to advocate teaching intelligent design in a science classroom will never get my vote.

I agree 100%. I just cant get over this.

Jason P wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

bachmann is.........

hit with a cease and desist letter from tom petty...


Tom Petty To Michele Bachmann: Stop Playing 'American Girl'

It's very petty of Tom to take offense of Bachmann using his song.

good one!