Bachmann is

Jason P

inlet13 wrote:

Finally: This is what I was waiting for. The press will try to do what they did with Sarah Palin, but this time it will backfire. She's not stupid. A casual person will enter the debate with a low expectation on her because of this and will be impressed over and over.

I think you are right about this. I'm not a Bachmann fan by any means, but she is not an airhead that got a reality career gift-wrapped to her by the McCain campaign.

She seems smart and it appears her handlers are ready for the challenge. I'd prefer other candidates but I think all the liberals may give her too much focus and soon live to regret it.

polaris_x

inlet13 wrote:

Palin ran a state, regardless of whether you like the state or not... it's a state. That state did well economically with her at the helm. Any political person would agree that typically in U.S. elections Governors trump Senators. Palin was a Governor. Obama was a Senator and for only two years.

No, they didn't have a chance from the get-go. Had the economy remained stable (like it was, maybe in early summer), then they would have had a shot, but still it would have been an upward battle. She was picked because of the gas price problem. If you recall back before Lehman went down, that was the issue. Once the economy became the issue, the result is always the same... blame the incumbent party.

That's why the Dems were destroyed in the last election, and that's why, I believe Obama will be a one term President.

it has nothing to do with whether i like the state (and for the record - i think alaska is awesome, been twice) ... it's about her job as governor ... alaska has like 720,000 ... that's not very large ... it's like saying someone who was the ceo of a small hardware store in some town is more experienced than the ceo of home depot based strictly on years ...

also ... she didn't even finish her term because of the scandals and her addiction to fame ... doesn't that concern you that she could not even finish her term in a small state and that she was embroiled in scandal after scandal!??

inlet13

polaris_x wrote:

it has nothing to do with whether i like the state (and for the record - i think alaska is awesome, been twice) ... it's about her job as governor ... alaska has like 720,000 ... that's not very large ... it's like saying someone who was the ceo of a small hardware store in some town is more experienced than the ceo of home depot based strictly on years ...

I'd like to go there some day.

I don't think it's like saying that... it's like saying this:

someone who was the ceo of a hardware store is more experienced to run a company than a person who's never run anything in his life.

polaris_x wrote:

also ... she didn't even finish her term because of the scandals and her addiction to fame ... doesn't that concern you that she could not even finish her term in a small state and that she was embroiled in scandal after scandal!??

Obama didn't finish his term either.

I don't like Sarah Palin too much. I don't know of any huge scandals that she had though. Personally, I think she should not have left office. But, this really has nothing to do with my points. I said McCain and her had more experience than Obama.

polaris_x

inlet13 wrote:

I'd like to go there some day.

I don't think it's like saying that... it's like saying this:

someone who was the ceo of a hardware store is more experienced to run a company than a person who's never run anything in his life.

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Obama didn't finish his term either.

I don't like Sarah Palin too much. I don't know of any huge scandals that she had though. Personally, I think she should not have left office. But, this really has nothing to do with my points. I said McCain and her had more experience than Obama.

it's very beautiful ... of course much of that beauty lies within the pristine nature ... something that would be disrupted by more drilling ...

the problem is you are interchanging experience and qualifications when they are in fact two different things ...

here's another example ... it's game 7 of the world series ... do you go with your 10-year vet who has a 4.95 era or a rookie who has a 1.30 era? ... experience is a factor but it needs to be in context ...

also, it's one thing to quit being a senator so you can be president vs quitting so you can go on a book/speaking tour ...

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

also, it's one thing to quit being a senator so you can be president vs quitting so you can go on a book/speaking tour ...

No doubt.

usamamasan1

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

The president actually served as a senator. Like a real one.

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Palin "We don't have a 'present' button as governor,'' Palin said after an appearance before fellow Republican governors in Minneapolis. "We are expected to lead, we are expected to take action and not just vote 'present.' "

gimmesometruth27

usamamasan1 wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

The president actually served as a senator. Like a real one.

129 times



Palin "We don't have a 'present' button as governor,'' Palin said after an appearance before fellow Republican governors in Minneapolis. "We are expected to lead, we are expected to take action and not just vote 'present.' "

you can not vote "present" in the us senate.....

inlet13

polaris_x wrote:

here's another example ... it's game 7 of the world series ... do you go with your 10-year vet who has a 4.95 era or a rookie who has a 1.30 era? ... experience is a factor but it needs to be in context ...

Ok. I get your point. But, I still see qualifications and experience as linked. I would respond back why did Obama have better "batting average" (so to speak) going in? Not only did he have less experience, he did not many statistics on his qualifications behind him. I mean, what exactly did he do besides a speech?

It was like picking someone who said he was great at baseball, but you have no statistics on whether that was true or not. You have to decide between him and a guy/girl you know has a certain batting average. Sure, you can take a chance... I think that's exactly what America did. They took a shot with the no name guy. Unfortunately, I think we're all sitting in the dugout right now wishing we never did.

polaris_x

inlet13 wrote:

Ok. I get your point. But, I still see qualifications and experience as linked. I would respond back why did Obama have better "batting average" (so to speak) going in? Not only did he have less experience, he did not many statistics on his qualifications behind him. I mean, what exactly did he do besides a speech?

It was like picking someone who said he was great at baseball, but you have no statistics on whether that was true or not. You have to decide between him and a guy/girl you know has a certain batting average. Sure, you can take a chance... I think that's exactly what America did. They took a shot with the no name guy. Unfortunately, I think we're all sitting in the dugout right now wishing we never did.

my example used "era" ... but either way, the point is simply that experience does count for something but it's not everything and within that - experience has to be in context ... also, similar to the angle sarah palin used - too much experience may just mean you have too many ties to an already corrupt system ...

as for obama ... he was a state senator for 3 terms before become us senator ... the thing is tho ... to be president, it can't always be about the resume ... you need someone who can bridge differences, show some integrity, not have too many ties to special interest ... i dunno if obama were all those things - just simply that years in office don't matter as much to me in terms of whether one is qualified ... understanding the constitution is a must tho ... and he definitely knows it ...

keeponrockin

inlet13 wrote:

Ok. I get your point. But, I still see qualifications and experience as linked. I would respond back why did Obama have better "batting average" (so to speak) going in? Not only did he have less experience, he did not many statistics on his qualifications behind him. I mean, what exactly did he do besides a speech?

It was like picking someone who said he was great at baseball, but you have no statistics on whether that was true or not. You have to decide between him and a guy/girl you know has a certain batting average. Sure, you can take a chance... I think that's exactly what America did. They took a shot with the no name guy. Unfortunately, I think we're all sitting in the dugout right now wishing we never did.

Personally? Had McCain not sold his soul, shifted far right, and selected Palin as his running mate, I might have voted for him. Unfortunately, he shifted far right, became the opposite of what he used to be, and picked an absolute idiot of a running mate. That wrecks his ERA alone.

Parachute

....making Liberals shit their pants.

Why else would there be 25 pages/ 3 threads hatin on her.....

usamamasan1

black people voted in droves for our first black President. Because he was black in MANY cases. I presume women will do the same if she gets the nom.

keeponrockin

Parachute wrote:

....making Liberals shit their pants.

Why else would there be 25 pages/ 3 threads hatin on her.....

Huntsman or Romney scare me, Bachman is just an idiot.

Prince Of Dorkness

usamamasan1 wrote:

black people voted in droves for our first black President. Because he was black in MANY cases. I presume women will do the same if she gets the nom.

OK ok... not quite. Those black voters have traditionally always been democrats. The fact that the Democratic nominee was a black man was HUGE plus for them... but if he'd run for a Republican ticket... most of them probably wouldn't have voted for him.

markin ball

usamamasan1 wrote:

black people voted in droves for our first black President. Because he was black in MANY cases. I presume women will do the same if she gets the nom.

What will the black women do? Will their heads explode?

BinauralJam

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

black people voted in droves for our first black President. Because he was black in MANY cases. I presume women will do the same if she gets the nom.

OK ok... not quite. Those black voters have traditionally always been democrats. The fact that the Democratic nominee was a black man was HUGE plus for them... but if he'd run for a Republican ticket... most of them probably wouldn't have voted for him.

pjfan021

i don't support her policies. supporting intelligent design is ridiculous to me and she's blasted earmarks so many times but requests them in bills then goes on to say "oh money for building this bridge isn't an earmark." well it is...that's exactly what they are..which makes me think less of her because earmarks a worthless cause for people to be going after as far as wasteful spending goes. She's put her foot in her mouth many times...and what are her solutions? What CONCRETE agenda has she put out there? Honestly, can you guys educate me on some of her solutions to our economy, energy, and foreign policy problems? She will get the VP nod from somebody tho.

brianlux

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-bachma ... 25z;_ylv=3

When I read articles like this, I have two thoughts:

1) My first thought is a tiny bit of worry. Could someone who is this bad at doing their homework actually reach a position of power? My next thought is,

2) Oh man, I did it again-- got got up in this nonsense. Surely there must be a better way to spend my time--plant another tree, do something nice for someone, find another way to lessen my impact on this tortured world. America, the world is falling apart and we are burning our bridges way too fast. :(

gimmesometruth27

bachmann is.........

hit with a cease and desist letter from tom petty...


Tom Petty To Michele Bachmann: Stop Playing 'American Girl'

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/ ... -bachmann/

Tom Petty may be taking legal action to make sure Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann stops using his songs at her campaign events.

“NBC News: @TomPetty unhappy with Michele Bachmann’s use of ‘American Girl’ and in process of issuing [a cease and desist] letter,” Matt Ortega reported on Twitter only hours after hours after Bachmann used the popular song to kick off her campaign.

NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell confirmed that report Monday night.

“And details matter, and when Bachmann left the stage here, her campaign played the Tom Petty hit song, ‘American Girl,’” O’Donnell said. “Turns out petty isn’t pleased. His manager says they will ask the Bachmann campaign not to use that song.”

Petty also issued a cease and desist letter to then-Governor George W. Bush for illegally using “I won’t back down” at his rallies.

“The impression that you and your campaign have been endorsed by Tom Petty, which is not true,” music publisher Wixen Music Publishing Inc. told the Bush campaign.

To make matters worse for Bachmann, former RNC Online Communications Director Liz Mair made this observation about the use of the Petty’s tune: “Isn’t that what the kidnapped politician’s daughter was singing in ‘Silence of the Lambs?’

Mair appears to have since deleted that tweet.

It’s been a tough campaign roll out for the Minnesota Republican. On Sunday, Fox News’ Chris Wallace asked if she was a “flake.” And prior to Monday’s official announcement that she was seeking the presidency, Bachmann confused actor John Wayne with serial killer John Wayne Gacy.

usamamasan1

No FEDERAL min wage


Woot!