The poster is mad & rightfully so. So do you have anything else to contribute to the discussion, Kat? Like maybe, "We're very sorry this happened. 10club staff is looking into it to find out what happened & see that is doesn't happen again." Oh I don't know, maybe something along those lines. :rolleyes:
& To those who are complaining about people "bitching." We are told we are getting a certain something & have every right to be upset or disappointed when we don't receive it. We'll see how unnecessary or whatever complaining is when it happens to you.
I wouldn't have cared so much if I was going to or went to another show on this tour, but last night was my only show and for that f-up to happen is just disappointing. We were all more disappointed more than mad. we made the best of it, but still going to voice our displeasure today.
Unbelievable, why all the bitching. You were lucky enough to see the greatest band on Earth! Being stuck in Colorado with no show in sight I can't believe all the complaining. If I were lucky enough to be at any of these amazing shows on this short epic tour the Ten Club could give me a ticket that said "rope hanging from the rafters towards the back with one knot to hold onto for three hours" The rope and I would make the best of the show and you would hear nothing but gratitude.
"I think this is the coldest red wine I've ever had"
E.V- Ice Bowl, Alpine Valley 2000
Alpine Valley 6 -27-98 Palace 10-7-00 Alpine Valley 10-8-00
Shoreline 6-1-03 DTE 6-25-03 DTE 6-26-03
Pepsi Center 7-2-06 Pepsi Center 7-3-06
Riverside Theater E.V solo 8-19-08
The poster is mad & rightfully so. So do you have anything else to contribute to the discussion, Kat? Like maybe, "We're very sorry this happened. 10club staff is looking into it to find out what happened & see that is doesn't happen again." Oh I don't know, maybe something along those lines. :rolleyes:
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
there u have it ,,chill everyone and let kat figure this out love ya
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
Well there it is! AWESOME!
"I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive
it all should fall on the shoulders of 10c they have to do better than this now i'm glad i didn't score tickets to msg with my member # only to find out the day of show tickets were switched i have shits seats and will enjoy them ,specially at the MOB RUN MSG they are crooks running the place don't expect any honesty coming from them ....this is a mess now i have to just hope HARTFORD & MANSFIELD get it right holy ticket mess....
glad to hear that it is being looked into. thats pretty much all that can be done right now in the middle of a tour. hopefully improvements will be made for the next time around.
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"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
Ok, so the "nitwit" remark was a bit uncalled for, but at the same time, I think the fact this person was extremely upset should be taken into account. I didn't say you had any answers at this time. But what you stated above could have easily been stated in your original response.
& lol, that Tim got banned for name calling, that's classic. The whole no "name-calling" thing is a bit excessive & childish anyway...especially when everyone is on the board of a band they love that encourages free speech, but I digress. Have a lovely day.
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
My Apologizes to the Ten Club staff. It was uncalled for to call you names. I appreciate the job you do and am glad you are looking into the situation from last night. It is just frustrating to know people with less seniority were closer, considering this was a seniority based show. Look forward to hearing any explanation you can give.
how can you steal the lottery winner's tix? I won in VA beach (2nd row) and I had to sign for my tix. My name and 10club number were printed on the envelope. I was so happy, I had trouble signing my name, plus something was in the way of the envelope.
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Another thing to consider that makes 2008 different from 2003 and earlier is that the ticket scalping industry has gone into hyerdrive. Not only have more and more "ticket brokers" been popping up, they now have many more advanced tools at their disposal to try and rope in as many tickets as they can. The ticket broker industry is also being legitimized by Ticketmaster's TicketExchange and Stub Hub, making what was once mostly a fringe market into a main source for ticketing.
This is big business now and it is truly not a fair playing ground at all. ESPECIALLY for fan clubs like Ten Club that are 100% independently run by the artist and not by a department of a record label or another major corporation like LiveNation. It is pretty much guaranteed that if this fan club was run by one of the many corporate "fan club" companies out there then the ticketing scenario would be much worse. It's a real uphill battle for an organization like Ten Club and Pearl Jam.
Madonna is setting a new standard with Stub Hub on her upcoming tour where she is getting a cut of all the transactions made on their site for her tour. And she's pitching it to her fans like "Didn't get tickets the first time? No problem! Come to Stub Hub!" putting her stamp of approval on exploitation and gouging. In fact, it is in her interest to promote scalping on Stub Hub because she gets paid on the initial sale AND the resell.
My point is that when all is said and done, Ten Club is really doing a great job for an independent, 100% artist owned and operated fan organization. They are fighting against a system that couldn't care less about fans and they are doing the best they can. Even when things don't go perfectly, I honestly feel that Ten Club really does care and they have made the effort.
I hear your disappointments and I understand where you are coming from, but you have to admit it could be a whole lot worse. I just hope we can consider all of this before we go calling them names and putting them down so quickly.
how can you steal the lottery winner's tix? I won in VA beach (2nd row) and I had to sign for my tix. My name and 10club number were printed on the envelope. I was so happy, I had trouble signing my name, plus something was in the way of the envelope.
Seems pretty easy to me.
You work at will call. You see front row seats. You take them out of the envelope. You put crappier tickets in said envelope. You sell front row seats to your scalper buddy for a premium.
Voila.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
You work at will call. You see front row seats. You take them out of the envelope. You put crappier tickets in said envelope. You sell front row seats to your scalper buddy for a premium.
Voila.
haha whats so hard about that eh? people are naive in this world
as long as NON- 10c people are handling these tickets shit will be messed with ,,,simple... period .... end of story ITS LIFE
This whole story sucks, and I feel bad for the original poster. However ...
I'm old enough to remember a time when it was difficult to get a ticket -- any ticket -- to see Pearl Jam play. I remember having to line up 10 of my friends on a Sunday morning to call this damn phone number and get a busy signal over ... and over ... and over ... until we got through. Well, only one of us did. It was me. I bought the maximum four tickets, and six of my friends were screwed. Left out in the cold.
We wouldn't have cared where our seats were. We just wanted to be in the building.
That kind of experience has stuck with me over the years. I don't go into any show *hoping* for anything. I just take what I get, am happy to be in the building, and I'm never disappointed. Sometimes, however, I am pleasantly surprised.
It works for me, anyway.
well said, thats how i look at it as well, just get me in the fuckin building, i just want to hear the music. seeing isn't everything unless you are in the 1st few rows, other than that i could give a shit where i sit
NO TIME TO BE VOID OR SAVE UP ON LIFE, YOU GOT TO SPEND IT ALL!!!!!!!
This whole story sucks, and I feel bad for the original poster. However ...
I'm old enough to remember a time when it was difficult to get a ticket -- any ticket -- to see Pearl Jam play. I remember having to line up 10 of my friends on a Sunday morning to call this damn phone number and get a busy signal over ... and over ... and over ... until we got through. Well, only one of us did. It was me. I bought the maximum four tickets, and six of my friends were screwed. Left out in the cold.
We wouldn't have cared where our seats were. We just wanted to be in the building.
That kind of experience has stuck with me over the years. I don't go into any show *hoping* for anything. I just take what I get, am happy to be in the building, and I'm never disappointed. Sometimes, however, I am pleasantly surprised.
It works for me, anyway.
you are just right,,i travel from greece to italy ,venice and 3 hours before pj play a storm broke the scene and the concert canceled,,,the only thing matters is to be inside the concert and see them play!!!!!!!!!!seats thing is a piece of shit!!!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Ok, so the "nitwit" remark was a bit uncalled for, but at the same time, I think the fact this person was extremely upset should be taken into account. I didn't say you had any answers at this time. But what you stated above could have easily been stated in your original response.
& lol, that Tim got banned for name calling, that's classic. The whole no "name-calling" thing is a bit excessive & childish anyway...especially when everyone is on the board of a band they love that encourages free speech, but I digress. Have a lovely day.
what is it, 8 years now for you two? lol....some feuds die hard!
sliteofjeff, I'm so old, I remember standing in line that wrapped around the building to buy tickets through TM to only get to the window to have them say SOLD OUT.
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
i was 316xxx and was in section 200 row G...seats werent great but the section was AWFUL, myself and a guy i met in VA beach were the only ones rockin out...well my father was pretty into it but the rest of the section was awful
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
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Unbelievable, why all the bitching. You were lucky enough to see the greatest band on Earth! Being stuck in Colorado with no show in sight I can't believe all the complaining. If I were lucky enough to be at any of these amazing shows on this short epic tour the Ten Club could give me a ticket that said "rope hanging from the rafters towards the back with one knot to hold onto for three hours" The rope and I would make the best of the show and you would hear nothing but gratitude.
E.V- Ice Bowl, Alpine Valley 2000
Alpine Valley 6 -27-98 Palace 10-7-00 Alpine Valley 10-8-00
Shoreline 6-1-03 DTE 6-25-03 DTE 6-26-03
Pepsi Center 7-2-06 Pepsi Center 7-3-06
Riverside Theater E.V solo 8-19-08
He got banned.
If I had something to explain at this time, don't you think I'd do so? The Ten Club cares very much when there are problems. They work VERY hard to see that things go smoothly. I don't know what happened with this event but I know they are working on it and are sorry for any problems.
The poster is upset but still doesn't have the right to name-call anyone. I didn't ban him and could have...might still if things don't improve. Tim is banned for name-calling right now and understands the rules; is this poster above the Posting Guidelines? No. And rolling your eyes at me isn't helping anything.
Thank you for your understanding. No one is out to screw anyone.
there u have it ,,chill everyone and let kat figure this out
Well there it is! AWESOME!
I have 181xxx and was in section 104 row Q
"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
Have you thanked a taper today?
Ok, so the "nitwit" remark was a bit uncalled for, but at the same time, I think the fact this person was extremely upset should be taken into account. I didn't say you had any answers at this time. But what you stated above could have easily been stated in your original response.
& lol, that Tim got banned for name calling, that's classic. The whole no "name-calling" thing is a bit excessive & childish anyway...especially when everyone is on the board of a band they love that encourages free speech, but I digress. Have a lovely day.
Is no one on here cool?
People need to lay off the people who are "rightfully" upset.
And then LAY OFF THE FUCKING TEN CLUB!!!!!
Jeez Louise.
My Apologizes to the Ten Club staff. It was uncalled for to call you names. I appreciate the job you do and am glad you are looking into the situation from last night. It is just frustrating to know people with less seniority were closer, considering this was a seniority based show. Look forward to hearing any explanation you can give.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
This got me thinking to another " black gentleman".......
"Can't we all just get along?"....
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
This is big business now and it is truly not a fair playing ground at all. ESPECIALLY for fan clubs like Ten Club that are 100% independently run by the artist and not by a department of a record label or another major corporation like LiveNation. It is pretty much guaranteed that if this fan club was run by one of the many corporate "fan club" companies out there then the ticketing scenario would be much worse. It's a real uphill battle for an organization like Ten Club and Pearl Jam.
Madonna is setting a new standard with Stub Hub on her upcoming tour where she is getting a cut of all the transactions made on their site for her tour. And she's pitching it to her fans like "Didn't get tickets the first time? No problem! Come to Stub Hub!" putting her stamp of approval on exploitation and gouging. In fact, it is in her interest to promote scalping on Stub Hub because she gets paid on the initial sale AND the resell.
My point is that when all is said and done, Ten Club is really doing a great job for an independent, 100% artist owned and operated fan organization. They are fighting against a system that couldn't care less about fans and they are doing the best they can. Even when things don't go perfectly, I honestly feel that Ten Club really does care and they have made the effort.
I hear your disappointments and I understand where you are coming from, but you have to admit it could be a whole lot worse. I just hope we can consider all of this before we go calling them names and putting them down so quickly.
Seems pretty easy to me.
You work at will call. You see front row seats. You take them out of the envelope. You put crappier tickets in said envelope. You sell front row seats to your scalper buddy for a premium.
Voila.
for the least they could possibly do
haha whats so hard about that eh? people are naive in this world
as long as NON- 10c people are handling these tickets shit will be messed with ,,,simple... period .... end of story ITS LIFE
well said, thats how i look at it as well, just get me in the fuckin building, i just want to hear the music. seeing isn't everything unless you are in the 1st few rows, other than that i could give a shit where i sit
you are just right,,i travel from greece to italy ,venice and 3 hours before pj play a storm broke the scene and the concert canceled,,,the only thing matters is to be inside the concert and see them play!!!!!!!!!!seats thing is a piece of shit!!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
...not just the envelope
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what is it, 8 years now for you two? lol....some feuds die hard!
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I know that people get frustrated when things don't go as expected, but do they really think that being bitchy is really going to help their cause?
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
If not I should not have tried to make out with them repeatedly... there's soemthing I never thought I'd regret!
Well it obviously has....they are now "looking into it".
Keep living your lives blind....and by no means speak out when you feel you have been wronged...thats the American way right?
"Your leader is going to speak now,
everyone turn off your minds."
Everyone near me had a similar number. 100 row N