Rick Perry: The Next President

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

Who's defending what he 'did to the girl'?


According to his lawyers he was innocent of this crime, and was 'denied access to legal representation which Mexican diplomats would have offered.'

CH156378

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

wtf? is it 1988? ok willie horton :roll:

Parachute

TX just fried a dirty murderer. I don't care what color he is or what country he's from.

You rape and murder children in that state and they fry your ass. That's my kind of state.

If you want to live in a state that tolerates child rape and murder, go ahead.

Byrnzie can be your neighbor.... yikes!

JonnyPistachio

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

what a joke.. someone disagrees with the death penalty and you're automatically defending a child rapist? :?

This Perry guy is obviously a victim of his environment. Kill, kill, kill...that's how he was probably brought up, thinking that is what solves the problem of murder and rape. It doesn't.

cincybearcat

Flagg wrote:

vetos a bill to ban texting and driving on the grounds that he doesn't want to micro-manage the citizens of this state.

Seriously though, what good are those laws? All it does is allow law enforcement to access your phone records after an accident to have you pay more $. It's not going to stop texting and driving.

Parachute

JonnyPistachio wrote:

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

what a joke.. someone disagrees with the death penalty and you're automatically defending a child rapist? :?

This Perry guy is obviously a victim of his environment. Kill, kill, kill...that's how he was probably brought up, thinking that is what solves the problem of murder and rape. It doesn't.

Please tell us what does solve rape and murder?

More love and appeasement?

Parachute

"Adria Sauceda, 16, his victim, was found naked by authorities, according to court documents.

'There was a 30- to 40-pound asphalt rock roughly twice the size of the victim's skull lying partially on the victim's left arm," court documents read. "Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near the victim's right thigh.'

A "bloody and broken" stick roughly 15 inches long with a screw at the end of it was also protruding from the girl's vagina, according to the documents."



Monsters like that deserve execution.

"If you kill someone in Texas, Texas will kill you back."

ed243421

Byrnzie wrote:

Sure seems like a nice fella:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... uted-texas

'The Texas governor is a vigorous advocate of the death penalty. He has overseen the execution of more than 200 men and is on the brink of entering the US presidential race with strong support of conservatives who back capital punishment.'

I'll say it again...anyone who supports the death penalty isn't worth the shit on the end of my shoe.

honest question..

if someone who wants a murderer that shoved a stick with a screw protruding from the end of it

into a girls vagina, then kills her

is not worth the shit on the end of your shoe,

then what is the murderer worth to you?

Byrnzie

Parachute wrote:

TX just fried a dirty murderer. I don't care what color he is or what country he's from.

You rape and murder children in that state and they fry your ass. That's my kind of state.

If you want to live in a state that tolerates child rape and murder, go ahead.

Byrnzie can be your neighbor.... yikes!

Who said anything about tolerating child rape and murder? There's a difference between tolerating child rape and murder and opposing the death penalty. Though clearly that nuance is beyond your comprehension.

Besides, how do you know he's even guilty?

Byrnzie

Parachute wrote:

Please tell us what does solve rape and murder?

More love and appeasement?

Murder the murderer, right?

Unfortunately this logic doesn't seem to have solved any of America's problems at any time in the past 100+ years because people are still being raped, and they are still being murdered. Seems like this deterrent of yours is a bit of a lost cause. Or is it simply blood-lust that you're cheering here?

JonnyPistachio

Parachute wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

what a joke.. someone disagrees with the death penalty and you're automatically defending a child rapist? :?

This Perry guy is obviously a victim of his environment. Kill, kill, kill...that's how he was probably brought up, thinking that is what solves the problem of murder and rape. It doesn't.

Please tell us what does solve rape and murder?

More love and appeasement?

I dont know the fix for this, but I do know the DP is not a deterrent for crimes like these.

usamamasan1

I sure hope this guy runs for President. He is a bad ass. Tuff as nails and has GREAT hair.
He would get my vote for sure. Shit, I would take a leave from work to help spread the good word!

ed243421

ed243421 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Sure seems like a nice fella:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... uted-texas

'The Texas governor is a vigorous advocate of the death penalty. He has overseen the execution of more than 200 men and is on the brink of entering the US presidential race with strong support of conservatives who back capital punishment.'

I'll say it again...anyone who supports the death penalty isn't worth the shit on the end of my shoe.

honest question..

if someone who wants a murderer that shoved a stick with a screw protruding from the end of it

into a girls vagina, then kills her

is not worth the shit on the end of your shoe,

then what is the murderer worth to you?

wtf did i write there
i had just got out of bed and typed that
sorry
the question i meant to ask was..


if the person who wants a murderer executed is not worth the shit on the end of your shoe

then what is the murderer worth to you?

cincybearcat

Byrnzie wrote:

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I'll say it again...anyone who supports the death penalty isn't worth the shit on the end of my shoe.

Stay classy Byrnzie.

Parachute

Byrnzie wrote:

Parachute wrote:

TX just fried a dirty murderer. I don't care what color he is or what country he's from.

You rape and murder children in that state and they fry your ass. That's my kind of state.

If you want to live in a state that tolerates child rape and murder, go ahead.

Byrnzie can be your neighbor.... yikes!

Who said anything about tolerating child rape and murder? There's a difference between tolerating child rape and murder and opposing the death penalty. Though clearly that nuance is beyond your comprehension.

Besides, how do you know he's even guilty?

Brynzie, you began with an intelligent response, then descended into insult (your usual tactic), but then asked a reasoned question of me.

No wonder nobody here takes you seriously. You're a drag.


But to help you w/ your question, the murderer's final words were:
"I have hurt a lot of people," Leal said during his final minutes Thursday. "I take full blame for everything. I am sorry for what I did."

"One more thing," he said, then twice shouted "Viva Mexico!" He told the prison warden he was ready, adding "let's get this show on the road."

That's how I know he did it.

usamamasan1

unsung

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?

Who's defending what he 'did to the girl'?


According to his lawyers he was innocent of this crime, and was 'denied access to legal representation which Mexican diplomats would have offered.'

I guess he wasn't so innocent after all, huh?

"I am sorry for everything I have done," Leal said at the Huntsville facility before he was executed. "I have hurt a lot of people. Let this be final and be done. I take the full blame for this."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/07/tex ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Flagg

cincybearcat wrote:

Flagg wrote:

vetos a bill to ban texting and driving on the grounds that he doesn't want to micro-manage the citizens of this state.

Seriously though, what good are those laws? All it does is allow law enforcement to access your phone records after an accident to have you pay more $. It's not going to stop texting and driving.

It wasn't so much the veto, but his line of reasoning for the veto. He's hypocritical.

I don't see how anyone can condone texting and driving (not saying you are). Some studies have shown it is more dangerous than DWI. I usually only have to dodge drunk drivers at night or on the weekends. I have to dodge text drivers all day every day.

You could make your argument for drinking and driving too. Does that law stop people from doing it?

ComeToTX

I look at the DP like this. If we would have taken Bin Laden alive I would want him to get the death penalty.

Also, if someone raped and murdered my entire family and then confessed to it and showed zero remorse you can bet I would want that person dead.

Therefore I can't say I'm against the death penalty but in 90% of cases I probably am against it.

Perry is a douche.

gimmesometruth27

wow, imagine that.....


UN official: US execution of Leal broke int'l law

http://news.yahoo.com/un-official-us-ex ... 00028.html

..GENEVA (AP) — The U.N.'s top human rights official says the U.S. breached international law when it executed a Mexican citizen.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said Friday the Texas execution of Humberto Leal "raises particular legal concerns," including whether he had access to consular services and a fair trial.

Pillay also cited a 2004 International Court of Justice ruling saying the U.S. must review and reconsider the cases of 51 Mexican nationals sentenced to death, including Leal's — But, she said, that never happened.

Leal was executed Thursday despite a White House-backed appeal that claimed the case could affect foreigners arrested in the U.S. and Americans in legal trouble abroad.

Leal was sentenced to death for the 1994 rape and murder of a U.S. teenager.