Rick Perry: The Next President

Who Princess

Shawshank wrote:

I've said on more than one occasion, and I mean this in an absolutely non-sexual way of course, but if anyone thinks Christ wouldn't be at a gay pride fest or your local bar they are delusional and have no concept of what Jesus was really about. He would be wherever those are who needed Him. Since I'm still able to finish typing this, I obviously didn't get struck by lightning. I'm not gay, but I have no problem with those that are, and even if I did, it's not my place to judge to them. Jesus told us to love God, and to love our neighbors. Those are the two greatest commandments He gave us. He didn't give us the authority to judge any of them. We all have issues, but it's easier for most to look at what they perceive as everyone else's faults while ignoring their own.

It's also true that Jesus never said anything about gays. He did have some things to say about marriage and divorce. But somehow a lot of people decide to speak for him and dictate to others what they think he stood for.

keeponrockin

Shawshank wrote:

I've said on more than one occasion, and I mean this in an absolutely non-sexual way of course, but if anyone thinks Christ wouldn't be at a gay pride fest or your local bar they are delusional and have no concept of what Jesus was really about. He would be wherever those are who needed Him. Since I'm still able to finish typing this, I obviously didn't get struck by lightning. I'm not gay, but I have no problem with those that are, and even if I did, it's not my place to judge to them. Jesus told us to love God, and to love our neighbors. Those are the two greatest commandments He gave us. He didn't give us the authority to judge any of them. We all have issues, but it's easier for most to look at what they perceive as everyone else's faults while ignoring their own.

This. If they think they'd be at the megachurches filled with Fallwell, etc... They'd be wrong.

Go Beavers

keeponrockin wrote:

Shawshank wrote:

I've said on more than one occasion, and I mean this in an absolutely non-sexual way of course, but if anyone thinks Christ wouldn't be at a gay pride fest or your local bar they are delusional and have no concept of what Jesus was really about. He would be wherever those are who needed Him. Since I'm still able to finish typing this, I obviously didn't get struck by lightning. I'm not gay, but I have no problem with those that are, and even if I did, it's not my place to judge to them. Jesus told us to love God, and to love our neighbors. Those are the two greatest commandments He gave us. He didn't give us the authority to judge any of them. We all have issues, but it's easier for most to look at what they perceive as everyone else's faults while ignoring their own.

This. If they think they'd be at the megachurches filled with Fallwell, etc... They'd be wrong.

He probably wouldn't have anything to do with any church

mikepegg44

Parachute wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

Parachute wrote:

Ya... You're not bitter.

Who can even understand your hateful rambling?

Take a flowmax so you can stop going and going- while I turn the page on your bitterness.

Someone said that "Youth is wasted on the young", but they never met me....

Later, geriatric-skater.

god I admire you, your witty quips are hilarious

31 by the way, far from old...but obviously a little mature for you

can you answer my question? how is making a law in regards to the religious ceremony of marriage not similar to sharia law?
simply ignoring it won't change the fact it doesn't seem you, or people like Rick Perry can answer that kind of question...
and a little respect shown for others on here can go a long way, you don't have to be start name calling and all that shit, but to each their own,
and if you want to portray yourself as someone who is fun loving and thought blowing Ronald Mcdonald was funny(I happen to think it is really funny to be honest) at least take a picture of yourself doing it instead of hopping on the back of a stranger who was legitimately creative.

You resond by putting down my profile pic? Now I'm not creative? Geez, man. You are so uncool.

Have you read the way you responded to me initially? You're insulting, combative, derogatory and sarcastic.
Then turn around and demand respect?

I can choose to respond to whomever I wish, just like in "real life", and if we were in a bar, I would have thrown a drink in your face after your "OH NO PARACHUTE" rant a few posts back.

I have fun on here, even while disagreeing w people- you're just rude, so ignoring you is best.

Girls ignoring you..... hmmm.

My first responses were actually pretty polite. Go back and read them. I am not going to apologize for calling you or Perry out on that line of hypocrisy, it is people like you that give all conservatives, and many christians who actually care about important things a bad name...But you are right, we should probably just ignore each other...good luck

mikepegg44

Go Beavers wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

Shawshank wrote:

I've said on more than one occasion, and I mean this in an absolutely non-sexual way of course, but if anyone thinks Christ wouldn't be at a gay pride fest or your local bar they are delusional and have no concept of what Jesus was really about. He would be wherever those are who needed Him. Since I'm still able to finish typing this, I obviously didn't get struck by lightning. I'm not gay, but I have no problem with those that are, and even if I did, it's not my place to judge to them. Jesus told us to love God, and to love our neighbors. Those are the two greatest commandments He gave us. He didn't give us the authority to judge any of them. We all have issues, but it's easier for most to look at what they perceive as everyone else's faults while ignoring their own.

This. If they think they'd be at the megachurches filled with Fallwell, etc... They'd be wrong.

He probably wouldn't have anything to do with any church

got that right, he would be disgusted by them...

Shawshank

mikepegg44 wrote:

got that right, he would be disgusted by them...

Exactly. This is what I don't understand about modern churches. The accounts of Jesus within the Bible, specifically mention His disdain for the church and religious practices of that time. When you look at the descriptions of those people back then, they almost mirror what we have today. Their relationship with God was dominated by repetitive ceremony, meaningless worship, power and money.

It's the same thing today. I'm pretty sure God doesn't care how nice your church is, or how many members it has. He cares about how you are using what you have. Not everything has to be a big deal. I see it here in some of the smaller churches in our area. They will go through hoops raising money all year long so some of the members can take a 2 week mission trip to Africa. I have no problem with that really, but why not use that same vigor and fire and help the people in the house next door to the church to get a new roof, because the one they have is caving in. Why not go through the community and have the youth groups offer to do yard work free of charge for the elderly? Why not find out if someone uninsured in the area needs help covering medical expenses and raise the money for that? Does it really matter if they are church members or not? They are human beings. Christianity today would be a lot better off if they lived by the word of God instead of trying to constantly recruit and demean people. Sorry for the way off topic rant, but it's just frustrating to me.

gimmesometruth27

Shawshank wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

got that right, he would be disgusted by them...

Exactly. This is what I don't understand about modern churches. The accounts of Jesus within the Bible, specifically mention His disdain for the church and religious practices of that time. When you look at the descriptions of those people back then, they almost mirror what we have today. Their relationship with God was dominated by repetitive ceremony, meaningless worship, power and money.

It's the same thing today. I'm pretty sure God doesn't care how nice your church is, or how many members it has. He cares about how you are using what you have. Not everything has to be a big deal. I see it here in some of the smaller churches in our area. They will go through hoops raising money all year long so some of the members can take a 2 week mission trip to Africa. I have no problem with that really, but why not use that same vigor and fire and help the people in the house next door to the church to get a new roof, because the one they have is caving in. Why not go through the community and have the youth groups offer to do yard work free of charge for the elderly? Why not find out if someone uninsured in the area needs help covering medical expenses and raise the money for that? Does it really matter if they are church members or not? They are human beings. Christianity today would be a lot better off if they lived by the word of God instead of trying to constantly recruit and demean people. Sorry for the way off topic rant, but it's just frustrating to me.

all very valid points. maybe you should start a church Shawshank. the things you listed are more in line with christ's teachings than what today's christians at megachurches are doing. all it takes is the right ideas instead of trying to make enough money for the church to keep for itself and expand to an ungodly size..

mikepegg44

Godfather. wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

I know Gimmie, I was wearing a shirt that was 50 % linen and 50% wool and I will be damned if God didn't remind me I was breaking a rule...you know...the rule about not wearing clothes made from more than one fabric...that is in leviticus where it talks about homosexuality...seriously...get the fuck over it...two guys or girls can love each other and it affects other people a grand total of 0%...that is unless other people enjoy seeing committed couples...then it affects them positively...
I don't like attacking religion and I am not trying to do that here, but come on, why out of all those rules is the homosexual "rule" the one that needs to be followed...if all the many others from Leviticus are seen as unnecessary now, why did that one stay?

you have the choice to follow or not to follow that's totaly up to you, if you are a believer than that is something you will have to deal with between you and God and if you are not a beleiver then why do you let these "rules"in the Bible make you angry, is there something in your heart that that the world won't let you share (no I'm not calling you gay) just wondering why all the anger...if that was anger.

Godfather.

It wasn't anger, it is confounded disbelief at the picking and choosing of rules by people like Perry. Personally I feel there is a god, but I do not appreciate the bastardization that goes on in the name of a God that is supposed to be peaceful...You cannot be a christian and choose the church over Christ and that is what happens daily...That is where my "anger" comes from...
I suggest listening to 10,000 days 1 and 2 by tool. that sums it up for me. I have a lot of contempt for the hypocrisy I feel and insincerity i feel when I go to church. For every 1 true christian you have 10 fake ones who believe in the church and not christ, and are way too vocal...

Godfather.

I see your point Mike, I don't pay much attention to people that give me their version of the Bible,there are some I really enjoy listening to tho and the ones I have any doubt with I just uasally just listen and keep my own beliefe's or find it in the Bible and make my own conclusions, I know I'm not a model Christian but in my heart I try my best to make things right with God and think thats all anybody can do.

Godfather.

Electric_Delta

keeponrockin wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you have the choice to follow or not to follow that's totaly up to you, if you are a believer than that is something you will have to deal with between you and God and if you are not a beleiver then why do you let these "rules"in the Bible make you angry, is there something in your heart that that the world won't let you share (no I'm not calling you gay) just wondering why all the anger...if that was anger.

Godfather.

Because those 'rules' in the bible are still informing the laws in the US, as most people against gay marriage explicitly or implicitly cite the bible for the reason they are against gay marriage (see: Parachute).

This is off-topic, but isn't homosexuality actually counter to the survival of species? I mean, pro-creation isn't possible in that context...

JonnyPistachio

Electric_Delta wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you have the choice to follow or not to follow that's totaly up to you, if you are a believer than that is something you will have to deal with between you and God and if you are not a beleiver then why do you let these "rules"in the Bible make you angry, is there something in your heart that that the world won't let you share (no I'm not calling you gay) just wondering why all the anger...if that was anger.

Godfather.

Because those 'rules' in the bible are still informing the laws in the US, as most people against gay marriage explicitly or implicitly cite the bible for the reason they are against gay marriage (see: Parachute).

This is off-topic, but isn't homosexuality actually counter to the survival of species? I mean, pro-creation isn't possible in that context...

Maybe it is natural because the planet is getting over crowded..

brandon10

Electric_Delta wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

you have the choice to follow or not to follow that's totaly up to you, if you are a believer than that is something you will have to deal with between you and God and if you are not a beleiver then why do you let these "rules"in the Bible make you angry, is there something in your heart that that the world won't let you share (no I'm not calling you gay) just wondering why all the anger...if that was anger.

Godfather.

Because those 'rules' in the bible are still informing the laws in the US, as most people against gay marriage explicitly or implicitly cite the bible for the reason they are against gay marriage (see: Parachute).

This is off-topic, but isn't homosexuality actually counter to the survival of species? I mean, pro-creation isn't possible in that context...

And the more gays there are, the more women for me. There are a lot of great looking gay guys out there. That gives me way more chances to be with beautiful women.

There are a lot of great gay people in this world. They accentuate my life. I can't think of any way in which gay people could negatively affect my life. Any true conservative who wants less government intrusion in our lives should want to let them live how ever the fuck they want to.

gimmesometruth27

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Maybe it is natural because the planet is getting over crowded..

that is a good point JP. i never looked at it like that.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Maybe it is natural because the planet is getting over crowded..

that is a good point JP. i never looked at it like that.

on a funny note the same could be said for..
the death penalty
ax murders
the mafia
out-law motorcycle clubs
street gangs
drug dealers
suicide
smoking
drinking
fast food
mercinarys
and watching Jerry Springer or FOX NEWS

Godfather.

usamamasan1

LETS DO THIS

Parachute

RUN RICK, RUN!

Flagg

Parachute wrote:

Rick Perry, who has yet to announce his candidacy, will secure the Republican nomination for President, and defeat Obama- handily- in 2012.

I am calling it now. I'm on the record.

Many of you will disagree.

But when it happens, I will only accept notarized apologies in written form.

8-)

I think the country has had enough former governors of Texas.

Flagg

Shawshank wrote:

Perry only says what Perry needs to say at the given moment. Just like any other politician. He also wanted to require all girls over age 11 I think it was, to get the HPV immunization shot. He also wanted to confiscate millions of acres of land and establish the Trans-Texas Corridor, and the entire thing would have been owned and managed by some Spanish corporation that he was getting a kickback from. He was shot down on both accounts. He's as big a crook as they come, and I'll vote for Obama, get a fake ID and vote for him again before I ever voted for Perry and I'm probably one of the more conservative people on this board.

Not to mention forcing women to have medically unnecessary sonograms before having an abortion but vetos a bill to ban texting and driving on the grounds that he doesn't want to micro-manage the citizens of this state.

Or his recent move to ban the public from access to details regarding the cost of his security detail as he bounces around the country making speeches.

And the $10,000/month taxpayer funded mansion he lives in with $40,000 worth of taxpayer funded landscaping and taxpayer funded curtains from Neiman fucking Marcus.

Perry is a hypocritical lying douchebag.

And like you said, a good deal of conservatives hate him too. Fiscal conservatives anyway.

Byrnzie

Sure seems like a nice fella:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... uted-texas

'The Texas governor is a vigorous advocate of the death penalty. He has overseen the execution of more than 200 men and is on the brink of entering the US presidential race with strong support of conservatives who back capital punishment.'

I'll say it again...anyone who supports the death penalty isn't worth the shit on the end of my shoe.

unsung

Did you read what that asshole did to that girl?


How can anyone defend that?