Trying to conceive before ivf starts....give me your tips!

polaris_x

Not really. Little pin pricks. Definitely better than getting a tattoo.

The key is to go to someone who is recommended as opposed to just anyone.

Good luck.

ZiggyStar wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

my friend had trouble conceiving and had multiple surgeries done to with no luck whatsoever ... she then tried acupuncture and was pregnant within 2 weeks ..

I really need to look into this acupuncture. I have private health cover....I wonder if it is covered.

Does acupuncture hurt?

loveontwolegs

ZiggyStar wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

my friend had trouble conceiving and had multiple surgeries done to with no luck whatsoever ... she then tried acupuncture and was pregnant within 2 weeks ..

I really need to look into this acupuncture. I have private health cover....I wonder if it is covered.

Does acupuncture hurt?

I don't think accupuncture hurts. It is a very relaxing treatment. The place I go is similar to a spa, so I'm on a massage table, soft music, good smells. I know that my insurance doesn't cover the procedure, but the health benefits were worth the cost. I was paying about $80 US 1x week.

Make sure the accupuncturist you do see is versed in doing it for fertility. Ask their success rates.

ShimmyMommy

ZiggyStar wrote:

7 September....made my very first appt with the ivf specialist to discuss my treatment. That's only 10 weeks away.

COME ON!!! :x

I also wanted to let you know, my friend who had PCOS had wait to get into the IVF clinic for a long time too. It just so happened on the first appointment, where they were doing her ultrasound to see what they could of her PCOS, is when they discovered she was pregnant. :shock: So, you just never can tell what will happen in 10 weeks.

heartdesire

Loulou wrote:

This is probably going to sound really airy fairy but I think it's true.
I think you need to be really relaxed and try not to stress about it too much. I had an ectopic pregnancy (which was extremely painful) and I was stressing after that there was something wrong and I couldn't get pregnant. Hubby took me away for a little while and I just tried to relax while we were away and soon after we got back, I was preggas. So my advice to you would be just try to relax about it and not get too stressed. The very best of luck to you both Ziggy.

If ya don't mind I'm gonna second on the airy fairy ... I feel its true too. I have had (3) friends do IVF without success ... a few months to a year or so later after giving up completely they each conceived - of course at separate times : ) - one even had twins ...

Have you considered acupuncture? I know a friend who had trouble conceiving and this helped her ...

Darlin' follow your heart ... you truly know what's best for you! It will all work out ... Wishing you all the best! And looking forward to hearing about the little one to come ... xx

ZiggyStar

Another month down....no baby! :x

Apparently if you don't have the perfect amount of cervical mucus the sperm struggle to swim....so there's this new lubricant out called Conceive Plus which mimics your cervical mucus etc etc and women on forums are saying it's magic blah blah blah....so I've now bought some of that for this month. My ob/gyn said it's crap and there's no proof that it works....but it's worth a try....and only costs $25!

One more month of trying and then I'm looking into acupuncture.

Fingers crossed! It's got to happen soon....PJ have been touring Australia every 3 years which means they may come back around November 2012....I need to pop this baby out between tours DAMMIT!! :x

he.who.forgets

ZiggyStar wrote:

Another month down....no baby! :x

Apparently if you don't have the perfect amount of cervical mucus the sperm struggle to swim....so there's this new lubricant out called Conceive Plus which mimics your cervical mucus etc etc and women on forums are saying it's magic blah blah blah....so I've now bought some of that for this month. My ob/gyn said it's crap and there's no proof that it works....but it's worth a try....and only costs $25!

One more month of trying and then I'm looking into acupuncture.

Fingers crossed! It's got to happen soon....PJ have been touring Australia every 3 years which means they may come back around November 2012....I need to pop this baby out between tours DAMMIT!! :x

GOod luck to you Ziggy. My wife and I just started looking into having a child. She's been off the pill for about 2 years, and I guess you can say we've been trying for about a year. Her obgyn thinks she may have Cystic Ovarian Syndrome which isnt all that uncommon. I just had my little swimmers check out last week but havent heard results yet.

ShimmyMommy

he.who.forgets wrote:

ZiggyStar wrote:

Another month down....no baby! :x

Apparently if you don't have the perfect amount of cervical mucus the sperm struggle to swim....so there's this new lubricant out called Conceive Plus which mimics your cervical mucus etc etc and women on forums are saying it's magic blah blah blah....so I've now bought some of that for this month. My ob/gyn said it's crap and there's no proof that it works....but it's worth a try....and only costs $25!

One more month of trying and then I'm looking into acupuncture.

Fingers crossed! It's got to happen soon....PJ have been touring Australia every 3 years which means they may come back around November 2012....I need to pop this baby out between tours DAMMIT!! :x

GOod luck to you Ziggy. My wife and I just started looking into having a child. She's been off the pill for about 2 years, and I guess you can say we've been trying for about a year. Her obgyn thinks she may have Cystic Ovarian Syndrome which isnt all that uncommon. I just had my little swimmers check out last week but havent heard results yet.

Just breathe... Lots of HUGS to both of you.

mikalina

ZiggyStar wrote:

Another month down....no baby! :x

Apparently if you don't have the perfect amount of cervical mucus the sperm struggle to swim....so there's this new lubricant out called Conceive Plus which mimics your cervical mucus etc etc and women on forums are saying it's magic blah blah blah....so I've now bought some of that for this month. My ob/gyn said it's crap and there's no proof that it works....but it's worth a try....and only costs $25!

One more month of trying and then I'm looking into acupuncture.

Fingers crossed! It's got to happen soon....PJ have been touring Australia every 3 years which means they may come back around November 2012....I need to pop this baby out between tours DAMMIT!! :x

Wishing you lots of Luck Ziggy !!!!!! hang in there - it will happen, of course it will take time.

Just think of all the fun your having....

Nothing wrong in trying Conceive Plus - go for it !!!

PureandEasy

Keep trying Ziggy. I had a neighbor once who couldn't conceive so they decided to adopt. About a year after the adoption, she ended up pregnant. So there's no saying what's in the cards for you, just keep your spirits and positive energy focused on it. Good luck.

Drowned Out

Pelvic tilt? My ex did the bicycle - that aerobics exercise where you lay on your back with your arms bent at the elbow to support your ass and hips which are in the air, with your feet straight up, pedalling like you're on an upside down bike. It was a bit of an inside joke between us....probably did nothing, but I liked the view, and it was a fun way to start round two, so....;)

A little aside: My sister has two IVF kids...she had her ovaries removed due to surgical complications, so she decided to have eggs harvested and embryos frozen......So...my nephew was born two years to the day after my neice....conceived the same day, born the same day, two years apart. Fraternal twins or no?

Hope you can make this happen before shelling out the big bucks, Ziggy. Best of luck....:)

( PS - I'm not very fond of the term "cervical mucus" )

ZiggyStar

Well, just had another scan....day 15 this time instead of day 12 since my cycles are about 35-37 days long instead of 28....my egg follicles are still too small and my uterine lining too thin....but I've still been ovulating in previous months where they have been the ideal size....but still....it ultimately means that once again, the drugs at the maximum dosage allowable haven't worked as well as they're supposed to.

My ob/gyn told me today that I only have August (and maybe September) left on these ovulation tablets then she basically can't do anything else for me and I have no choice but to see the ivf specialist....who I've already booked an appt with on 7 September. Time is running out....and I can't even afford to have ivf yet anyway. Makes me so fucking angry.

And I'm so fucking sick of people's comments. These are some of the comments I got just last week:

* "Oh my friend tried for THREE YEARS to have kids and eventually fell pregnant." How the fuck does saying this make me feel any better? I've been trying for ages already and I'm sick of it....I don't want to even think about it going on for another couple of years.

* "You're too thin....put on some weight and it will work." So you're a fucking doctor now? You don't think my ob/gyn wouldn't have discussed that with me if she thought I was too thin? What medical fact are you basing this on? None....you're just making up shit. And btw, you're fucking fat so go on a diet.

* "My friend did ivf for FIVE YEARS and now has two." Well good for her. Now piss off and keep your bad stories to yourself.

* "You need to stop stressing and relax." Grrrr....I'm not stressed....but this comment in particular is starting to make me lose my cool.

* "You can always adopt." No I fucking can't. I can't even go on the adoption list while I'm undergoing any form of fertility treatment....and it can take up to TEN YEARS in Australia to adopt and costs a shitload of money....probably $50,000 plus....and there are age restrictions for most countries we can adopt from so by the time we make it up the list, we'll probably be too old. The "you can always adopt" line is particularly annoying --- when you're undergoing fertility treatment, you don't even want to think about adoption....because it just means that you DEFINITELY can't have kids and EVERYTHING else you've tried for years and years has failed.

Some people really need to think before they start commenting and giving advice.

:x :x :x

(end of rant)

Loulou

Just don't listen Zig, EVERYONE's body is different when it comes to this shit. I had to hear all these comments too when I miscarried, just try to remember that they mean no harm, they are just trying to make you feel better. Unfortunately some folk have kids and become 'experts' if you know what I mean.

ZiggyStar

Loulou wrote:

Just don't listen Zig, EVERYONE's body is different when it comes to this shit. I had to hear all these comments too when I miscarried, just try to remember that they mean no harm, they are just trying to make you feel better. Unfortunately some folk have kids and become 'experts' if you know what I mean.

I'll try to remember that they mean no harm when I HEADBUTT them! :x

Thanks Loulou.

Fifthelement

Aww, Zig, sorry your feeling so out of sorts. I'm sure the comments that you are hearing have been given in the context of trying to give you hope, not to judge you. Not that it helps, but people just want to give you hope.

So, with that in mind, relax, gain some weight, and get yourselves on a list of some sort. Remember, you really need to stop stressing and just relax. Things will all work out

*please don't punch me . . . runs and hides*

I wish you and Mr Zig the best of luck

Loulou

ZiggyStar wrote:

Loulou wrote:

Just don't listen Zig, EVERYONE's body is different when it comes to this shit. I had to hear all these comments too when I miscarried, just try to remember that they mean no harm, they are just trying to make you feel better. Unfortunately some folk have kids and become 'experts' if you know what I mean.

I'll try to remember that they mean no harm when I HEADBUTT them! :x

Thanks Loulou.

LOL

ZiggyStar

Fifthelement wrote:

Aww, Zig, sorry your feeling so out of sorts. I'm sure the comments that you are hearing have been given in the context of trying to give you hope, not to judge you. Not that it helps, but people just want to give you hope.

So, with that in mind, relax, gain some weight, and get yourselves on a list of some sort. Remember, you really need to stop stressing and just relax. Things will all work out

*please don't punch me . . . runs and hides*

I wish you and Mr Zig the best of luck

I was reading that thinking "wtf? gain weight? Not another expert!!!!" haha Thanks....that made me laugh.

I know they mean well....but what's wrong with just saying "oh that's a shame....well good luck". Some people really need to learn to say less.

Looks like it's back to constant sex for yet another month....sigh....it's a hard life.

Fifthelement

I think people are inclined to try and "fix" things, if you know what I mean. So to them, unsolicited advice is their method. I pity you all the sex. Did I mention that my hubby is gone for six-plus months :(

ZiggyStar

Fifthelement wrote:

I think people are inclined to try and "fix" things, if you know what I mean. So to them, unsolicited advice is their method. I pity you all the sex. Did I mention that my hubby is gone for six-plus months :(

SIX MONTHS?!!? :shock: You poor poor thing. I'd die. The longest I've ever been since I was 19 years old was 5 weeks back in early 2010....it was hell....NEVER AGAIN!

81

ZiggyStar wrote:

And I'm so fucking sick of people's comments. These are some of the comments I got just last week:

don't tell people :P

now stop your bitching (i hear being in a bad mood doesn't help) ,get back in the sack and get busy. :shock:

PJPOWER

ZiggyStar wrote:

Well, just had another scan....day 15 this time instead of day 12 since my cycles are about 35-37 days long instead of 28....my egg follicles are still too small and my uterine lining too thin....but I've still been ovulating in previous months where they have been the ideal size....but still....it ultimately means that once again, the drugs at the maximum dosage allowable haven't worked as well as they're supposed to.

My ob/gyn told me today that I only have August (and maybe September) left on these ovulation tablets then she basically can't do anything else for me and I have no choice but to see the ivf specialist....who I've already booked an appt with on 7 September. Time is running out....and I can't even afford to have ivf yet anyway. Makes me so fucking angry.

And I'm so fucking sick of people's comments. These are some of the comments I got just last week:

* "Oh my friend tried for THREE YEARS to have kids and eventually fell pregnant." How the fuck does saying this make me feel any better? I've been trying for ages already and I'm sick of it....I don't want to even think about it going on for another couple of years.

* "You're too thin....put on some weight and it will work." So you're a fucking doctor now? You don't think my ob/gyn wouldn't have discussed that with me if she thought I was too thin? What medical fact are you basing this on? None....you're just making up shit. And btw, you're fucking fat so go on a diet.

* "My friend did ivf for FIVE YEARS and now has two." Well good for her. Now piss off and keep your bad stories to yourself.

* "You need to stop stressing and relax." Grrrr....I'm not stressed....but this comment in particular is starting to make me lose my cool.

* "You can always adopt." No I fucking can't. I can't even go on the adoption list while I'm undergoing any form of fertility treatment....and it can take up to TEN YEARS in Australia to adopt and costs a shitload of money....probably $50,000 plus....and there are age restrictions for most countries we can adopt from so by the time we make it up the list, we'll probably be too old. The "you can always adopt" line is particularly annoying --- when you're undergoing fertility treatment, you don't even want to think about adoption....because it just means that you DEFINITELY can't have kids and EVERYTHING else you've tried for years and years has failed.

Some people really need to think before they start commenting and giving advice.

:x :x :x

(end of rant)

I feel you...My wife and I have been trying for about 3 years now. Started with the AI and tried everything from fertility treatments to acupuncture. Then we took a break from it all after deciding it's probably not healthy to get depressed on a monthly basis. Now we are thinking about trying AI a couple more times before diving into IVF. Anyways, we were doing fine with the stresses of all that, but almost got to the point that we didn't even want to hang around with some friends or family.
You probably know as well as I that when you have been trying unsuccessfully for a while, it's nice to have a conversation with people that involves something other than "baby talk"... Yet everyone still feels like they have to put their expert 2 cents in, saying "oh, don't worry, it'll happen and you guys will make great parents"...or stories about "I know a family that tried doing this and became pregnant" or the best ever "yeah, we found out that your sister has had two abortions and is pregnant again"... I know most of these people are people that care about you and are just trying to think of things to make you happy, but sometimes it feels like that you lose any role other than "the couple that haven't been able to get pregnant". We are still fun people that like sports, running, music, traveling, movies, riding bikes, good food, fishing, skiing, etc...plenty OTHER roles and topics of conversation!
Anyways, I lost track of the point I was trying to make and just started ranting myself, but for what it's worth...You're not alone