60s culture blamed for Catholic Church Sex Abuse

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    another free pass for a member of the catholic church ...

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/catholic-bisho ... 23009.html
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    BinauralJam wrote:
    people need to have sex, it's really just that simple, if they started letting preist get married it would go a long way to fixing this.

    didn't fix sandusky
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Ireland has some of the worst catholic abuse cases and religion and politics have been dominated by the catholic church. but finaly our politicians have the balls to stand up to the catholic church

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5MXrqbDeA

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... D120111104
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    satansbed wrote:
    Ireland has some of the worst catholic abuse cases and religion and politics have been dominated by the catholic church. but finaly our politicians have the balls to stand up to the catholic church

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5MXrqbDeA

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... D120111104

    if only more people of power had that righteousness ...
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I did a quick google search and we have an embassy in the vatican...why does any country need an embassy in the vatican? Is it necessary? Could someone explain that?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I did a quick google search and we have an embassy in the vatican...why does any country need an embassy in the vatican? Is it necessary? Could someone explain that?

    i can not explain it.
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  • dasvidana
    dasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,357
    satansbed wrote:
    Ireland has some of the worst catholic abuse cases and religion and politics have been dominated by the catholic church. but finaly our politicians have the balls to stand up to the catholic church

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5MXrqbDeA

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... D120111104

    My family was victimized by the Catholic church in Ireland through the old industrial school system so I am glad to see any separation of the government and the church there. Sadly, though, the government still has a long way to go. Anyone who has read the Ryan or Murphy reports knows that the state still hasn't taken a lot of the Catholic church's abuses seriously enough.
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I did a quick google search and we have an embassy in the vatican...why does any country need an embassy in the vatican? Is it necessary? Could someone explain that?

    the vatican or vatican city is its own political state
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    This happens in all organized religions.

    Some of them are just better at covering it up than others.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,496
    Danimal wrote:
    This happens in all organized religions.

    Some of them are just better at covering it up than others.
    It doesn't help when the dudes running the show can't make out with chicks.

    It's a silly premise. Most normal guys in developed countries wouldn't even consider the priesthood. Most the priests nowadays are from India or other foreign nations. I go to Mass usually twice a year, and I can't understand our priest's thick accent when it echos around the church.

    I was an alter boy for ten years. Either I was lucky, or I'm not very attractive.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I wonder why so many priests are abusers?
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    there's a lot of priests, pastors, clergy in the world ...

    a lot of coachs, clowns, teachers, pediatricians, councilors, police officers, neighbors, fathers, mothers,
    grandparents etc etc


    that are really good people and would never dream of hurting a child
  • dasvidana
    dasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,357
    pandora wrote:
    there's a lot of priests, pastors, clergy in the world ...

    a lot of coachs, clowns, teachers, pediatricians, councilors, police officers, neighbors, fathers, mothers,
    grandparents etc etc


    that are really good people and would never dream of hurting a child
    that's true, but the problem is that the leadership of the Catholic Church has enabled those who do hurt children.
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    dasvidana wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    there's a lot of priests, pastors, clergy in the world ...

    a lot of coachs, clowns, teachers, pediatricians, councilors, police officers, neighbors, fathers, mothers,
    grandparents etc etc


    that are really good people and would never dream of hurting a child
    that's true, but the problem is that the leadership of the Catholic Church has enabled those who do hurt children.
    Lots of people enable abusers everyday everywhere...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pandora wrote:
    Lots of people enable abusers everyday everywhere...

    really!?? ... what other groups are enabling and covering up child sex abuse?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Lots of people enable abusers everyday everywhere...

    really!?? ... what other groups are enabling and covering up child sex abuse?
    Did I say groups?

    maybe Penn State comes to mind though :?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pandora wrote:
    Did I say groups?

    maybe Penn State comes to mind though :?

    and look what is happening there ... at least there is some accountability there for their cover up vs. almost nothing from the catholic church ...
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    some accountability and almost none sound a lot alike to me

    when there is money at stake .... cover up is the name of the game

    this true for just about everyone
    organizations, personal responsibility, everyone everywhere ... 'cover thy ass'
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pandora wrote:
    some accountability and almost none sound a lot alike to me

    when there is money at stake .... cover up is the name of the game

    this true for just about everyone
    organizations, personal responsibility, everyone everywhere ... 'cover thy ass'

    ok ... so what is your view on the actions of the catholic church?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    some accountability and almost none sound a lot alike to me

    when there is money at stake .... cover up is the name of the game

    this true for just about everyone
    organizations, personal responsibility, everyone everywhere ... 'cover thy ass'

    ok ... so what is your view on the actions of the catholic church?
    Same as others who enable abusers, my view, on all levels it is wrong.

    As wrong as those abusing and making victims of other human beings,
    this on all levels. Befriend an abuser, cover for them, justify, rationalize,
    all wrong and people do it everyday everywhere.
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