Star Wars May the 4th be with you (Spoilers)

dankind

VIII
V
VII
IV
VI
R1
III
I
II

My more nostalgic side wants to say that Empire and The Last Jedi are tied for first, but if “forced,” I’d have to give VIII the edge. Better script, better acting, better characters, better themes. 

igotid88

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mcgruff10

I didn't like the casino part but overall I absolutely loved the last Jedi (the middle kind of dragged).  To me it is right up there with a force awakens. 
I guess my order would be:
IV
V
VI
Rogue one
VII
VIII
III




I
II

This could switch at any moment.

rgambs

7 
5
8
4
3
6
2
R1
1

Nami

I found it a pretty good movie. only thing i hated was luke on the island. the whole cat and mouse scenario with rey 

JimmyV

I always enjoy the variation in peoples' lists. Empire is always near the top. I and II are always near the bottom. But in between all bets are off.

mcgruff10

rgambs said:

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what made you dislike rogue one so much?

rgambs

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

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what made you dislike rogue one so much?

A perfect storm of personal distastes.
If I ranked them based on which I thought was best as opposed to favorite, I would put it near the top.  Well made film, just didn't care for it.

The story is known to be a dead end before it starts so it's hard to care much about the characters.  The characters were a huge disappointment, the trailers made Jyn look like twice the badass she turned out to be, which was a letdown after Rey's total screen domination.
Saw Guerrera was the same, huge disappointment compared to what he could have been and done.
Cassian, I didn't care for the casting.  Diego Luna is just the Latin Johnny Depp, he may get some ladies revved, but he doesn't do anything for me.
The characters were also fully formed from the start, despite a slow moving exposition opening and didn't have any compelling progression as the story went.  That stuff all together just makes it a once and done film for me, I enjoyed it in the theatre (though not nearly as much as TFA) and I fell asleep and lost interest when I tried to watch the Blu-ray at home.
The cameos and callbacks to A New Hope were fun, but novelties don't hold up well.  
Vader at the end though, that may be the best scene in the history of Star Wars on the silver screen.  Absolutely epic, and perfectly done.  Finding the balance between Vader's necessarily lumbering style and Force skills that are badass and interesting was something that needed done badly.  The dueling scenes in the originals are terrible, boring and not "realistic" for a fighter who literally has super powers.  The dueling scenes in the prequels are over the top but very entertaining.
The new movies have cut a line between the two perfectly.

mcgruff10

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

7 
5
8
4
3
6
2
R1
1

what made you dislike rogue one so much?

A perfect storm of personal distastes.
If I ranked them based on which I thought was best as opposed to favorite, I would put it near the top.  Well made film, just didn't care for it.

The story is known to be a dead end before it starts so it's hard to care much about the characters.  The characters were a huge disappointment, the trailers made Jyn look like twice the badass she turned out to be, which was a letdown after Rey's total screen domination.
Saw Guerrera was the same, huge disappointment compared to what he could have been and done.
Cassian, I didn't care for the casting.  Diego Luna is just the Latin Johnny Depp, he may get some ladies revved, but he doesn't do anything for me.
The characters were also fully formed from the start, despite a slow moving exposition opening and didn't have any compelling progression as the story went.  That stuff all together just makes it a once and done film for me, I enjoyed it in the theatre (though not nearly as much as TFA) and I fell asleep and lost interest when I tried to watch the Blu-ray at home.
The cameos and callbacks to A New Hope were fun, but novelties don't hold up well.  
Vader at the end though, that may be the best scene in the history of Star Wars on the silver screen.  Absolutely epic, and perfectly done.  Finding the balance between Vader's necessarily lumbering style and Force skills that are badass and interesting was something that needed done badly.  The dueling scenes in the originals are terrible, boring and not "realistic" for a fighter who literally has super powers.  The dueling scenes in the prequels are over the top but very entertaining.
The new movies have cut a line between the two perfectly.

Very honest assessment that I respect and agree with (nice work!).  The last 1/3 of Rogue One was so damn kick ass and that's why it ranks high with me.
Vader at the end of Rogue One is the best scene out of all the Star Wars movies.  

JimmyV

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

7 
5
8
4
3
6
2
R1
1

what made you dislike rogue one so much?

A perfect storm of personal distastes.
If I ranked them based on which I thought was best as opposed to favorite, I would put it near the top.  Well made film, just didn't care for it.

The story is known to be a dead end before it starts so it's hard to care much about the characters.  The characters were a huge disappointment, the trailers made Jyn look like twice the badass she turned out to be, which was a letdown after Rey's total screen domination.
Saw Guerrera was the same, huge disappointment compared to what he could have been and done.
Cassian, I didn't care for the casting.  Diego Luna is just the Latin Johnny Depp, he may get some ladies revved, but he doesn't do anything for me.
The characters were also fully formed from the start, despite a slow moving exposition opening and didn't have any compelling progression as the story went.  That stuff all together just makes it a once and done film for me, I enjoyed it in the theatre (though not nearly as much as TFA) and I fell asleep and lost interest when I tried to watch the Blu-ray at home.
The cameos and callbacks to A New Hope were fun, but novelties don't hold up well.  
Vader at the end though, that may be the best scene in the history of Star Wars on the silver screen.  Absolutely epic, and perfectly done.  Finding the balance between Vader's necessarily lumbering style and Force skills that are badass and interesting was something that needed done badly.  The dueling scenes in the originals are terrible, boring and not "realistic" for a fighter who literally has super powers.  The dueling scenes in the prequels are over the top but very entertaining.
The new movies have cut a line between the two perfectly.

Very honest assessment that I respect and agree with (nice work!).  The last 1/3 of Rogue One was so damn kick ass and that's why it ranks high with me.
Vader at the end of Rogue One is the best scene out of all the Star Wars movies.  

Sitting in the theater and first hearing Vader's breathing and then seeing him ignite the lightsaber was great. I fully expected the film to cut away at that point. Nope. When he started walking forward and I realized we were actually going to see him slaughter made for one if the coolest moments I've ever experienced at the movies.

rgambs

Yes, absolutely amazing.

The downside is that I won't be able to enjoy Solo because the entire time I'll be thinking about Vader tearing ass through that corridor and how that's the movie I should be watching instead of a damn Han Solo origin with a lead who is reported to be a terrible actor.
Give me Vader, hunting down the surviving Jedi scattered throughout the galaxy after executing Order 66.  He's hunting down Jedi and looking for his kids and the seeds of the Rebellion are being sown.  Nostalgia and new territory rolled together. 
That's the film I want.

eddiec

Finally watched it. I was excited that the overall reception was mixed. For me that gave it potential.

Verdict: Weak but could have been great.

What I liked:
-The telepathic scenes between Rey and Ren. Force users could always 'sense' other force users but this was the first time we saw them communicate. I loved every time this happened.
-Luke's internal conflict. The different but nearly identical versions he and Ren had for what transpired that night was a fantastic point in the movie. It leaves no doubt why Luke sent himself into isolation. Much better than Yoda's forced exile.
-The silence when Lorna Dern lightsped through the Imperial ship. There was some kid, probably around 10 years old, who whispered to himself but the entire theater could hear him. He went "Oh my God" with the most awestruck little kid voice. Too funny.
-Snoke turned out to be a great villain. Really great. Then they kill him(see 'what I hated'.)

What I hated:
-It was way too long. Braveheart was 3 hours, Gladiator was 2:50. Both long but brilliant. This was shorter but felt 10 times as long. So many unnecessary scenes that should have been cut. I could watch Empire every few weeks beginning to end no problem. I'm not sure I could sit through this whole thing even one more time.
-The audience doesn't need a hundred battles. Why so many battles???? By the time the last battle happened it was anticlimactic.
-While that casino scene was cool why were we there for 20 or so minutes. And all that time devoted to Benecio del Toro and his stutter. What that his character choice? Give this guy a stutter. Too much time devoted to a useless character.
-Finn's character is weak and his acting, or the directing of his acting, is weaker. I was hoping he was at least going too sacrifice himself and take out that cannon. But not to be.
-Snoke's death. So the force user who can telepathically connect two other force users- something we've never seen before- can't sense that lightsaber turning on him. Come on. The actual death/saber slicing was cool but just can't believe it could happen.
-Rey's lightsaber skills with no training. The entire premise of the Jedi is training. They used to have academies and masters devoted to training other Jedi. It was essential Luke trained with Yoda before he confronted Vader. Not only for his lightsaber skills but also for his mind. You would have thought Luke would have trained Rey a little, just a couple of good moves. But nothing. Yet here she is, no training but taking out Imperial guardsman and holding her own against Ren- the guy who just took out Snoke- I just don't buy it.

Questions:
So now Luke is a Force Ghost?
Ren is now the leader of the Sith? That would be lame.

rgambs

eddiec said:

Finally watched it. I was excited that the overall reception was mixed. For me that gave it potential.

Verdict: Weak but could have been great.

What I liked:
-The telepathic scenes between Rey and Ren. Force users could always 'sense' other force users but this was the first time we saw them communicate. I loved every time this happened.
-Luke's internal conflict. The different but nearly identical versions he and Ren had for what transpired that night was a fantastic point in the movie. It leaves no doubt why Luke sent himself into isolation. Much better than Yoda's forced exile.
-The silence when Lorna Dern lightsped through the Imperial ship. There was some kid, probably around 10 years old, who whispered to himself but the entire theater could hear him. He went "Oh my God" with the most awestruck little kid voice. Too funny.
-Snoke turned out to be a great villain. Really great. Then they kill him(see 'what I hated'.)

What I hated:
-It was way too long. Braveheart was 3 hours, Gladiator was 2:50. Both long but brilliant. This was shorter but felt 10 times as long. So many unnecessary scenes that should have been cut. I could watch Empire every few weeks beginning to end no problem. I'm not sure I could sit through this whole thing even one more time.
-The audience doesn't need a hundred battles. Why so many battles???? By the time the last battle happened it was anticlimactic.
-While that casino scene was cool why were we there for 20 or so minutes. And all that time devoted to Benecio del Toro and his stutter. What that his character choice? Give this guy a stutter. Too much time devoted to a useless character.
-Finn's character is weak and his acting, or the directing of his acting, is weaker. I was hoping he was at least going too sacrifice himself and take out that cannon. But not to be.
-Snoke's death. So the force user who can telepathically connect two other force users- something we've never seen before- can't sense that lightsaber turning on him. Come on. The actual death/saber slicing was cool but just can't believe it could happen.
-Rey's lightsaber skills with no training. The entire premise of the Jedi is training. They used to have academies and masters devoted to training other Jedi. It was essential Luke trained with Yoda before he confronted Vader. Not only for his lightsaber skills but also for his mind. You would have thought Luke would have trained Rey a little, just a couple of good moves. But nothing. Yet here she is, no training but taking out Imperial guardsman and holding her own against Ren- the guy who just took out Snoke- I just don't buy it.

Questions:
So now Luke is a Force Ghost?
Ren is now the leader of the Sith? That would be lame.

Luke was never trained on lightsaber fighting either and he held his own (ish) against Vader even though he was a damn farmer.
Rey at least was a scavenger that had to learn ass-whoopin' staff style to get by.

F Me In The Brain

1. V - Empire
2. IV - Last Hope
3. VII - Force Awakens
4. VIII - Last Jedi
5. R1
6. VI - Return
7. III - Sith
8. II - Clones
9. I - Phantom Penis

Return was awesome in parts -- but I hate those ewoks, so hard.  Also, might be 3PO's most annoying work.
Need to see TLJ again, it might climb up.  I liked it but I cannot stop thinking about the abortion that was the handling of PL's death and pulling herself back into the ship.
R1 was cool - damn I loved the end.

tempo_n_groove

rgambs said:

eddiec said:

Finally watched it. I was excited that the overall reception was mixed. For me that gave it potential.

Verdict: Weak but could have been great.

What I liked:
-The telepathic scenes between Rey and Ren. Force users could always 'sense' other force users but this was the first time we saw them communicate. I loved every time this happened.
-Luke's internal conflict. The different but nearly identical versions he and Ren had for what transpired that night was a fantastic point in the movie. It leaves no doubt why Luke sent himself into isolation. Much better than Yoda's forced exile.
-The silence when Lorna Dern lightsped through the Imperial ship. There was some kid, probably around 10 years old, who whispered to himself but the entire theater could hear him. He went "Oh my God" with the most awestruck little kid voice. Too funny.
-Snoke turned out to be a great villain. Really great. Then they kill him(see 'what I hated'.)

What I hated:
-It was way too long. Braveheart was 3 hours, Gladiator was 2:50. Both long but brilliant. This was shorter but felt 10 times as long. So many unnecessary scenes that should have been cut. I could watch Empire every few weeks beginning to end no problem. I'm not sure I could sit through this whole thing even one more time.
-The audience doesn't need a hundred battles. Why so many battles???? By the time the last battle happened it was anticlimactic.
-While that casino scene was cool why were we there for 20 or so minutes. And all that time devoted to Benecio del Toro and his stutter. What that his character choice? Give this guy a stutter. Too much time devoted to a useless character.
-Finn's character is weak and his acting, or the directing of his acting, is weaker. I was hoping he was at least going too sacrifice himself and take out that cannon. But not to be.
-Snoke's death. So the force user who can telepathically connect two other force users- something we've never seen before- can't sense that lightsaber turning on him. Come on. The actual death/saber slicing was cool but just can't believe it could happen.
-Rey's lightsaber skills with no training. The entire premise of the Jedi is training. They used to have academies and masters devoted to training other Jedi. It was essential Luke trained with Yoda before he confronted Vader. Not only for his lightsaber skills but also for his mind. You would have thought Luke would have trained Rey a little, just a couple of good moves. But nothing. Yet here she is, no training but taking out Imperial guardsman and holding her own against Ren- the guy who just took out Snoke- I just don't buy it.

Questions:
So now Luke is a Force Ghost?
Ren is now the leader of the Sith? That would be lame.

Luke was never trained on lightsaber fighting either and he held his own (ish) against Vader even though he was a damn farmer.
Rey at least was a scavenger that had to learn ass-whoopin' staff style to get by.

Luke was saber training with Obiwan in the first movie.  

rgambs

tempo_n_groove said:

rgambs said:

eddiec said:

Finally watched it. I was excited that the overall reception was mixed. For me that gave it potential.

Verdict: Weak but could have been great.

What I liked:
-The telepathic scenes between Rey and Ren. Force users could always 'sense' other force users but this was the first time we saw them communicate. I loved every time this happened.
-Luke's internal conflict. The different but nearly identical versions he and Ren had for what transpired that night was a fantastic point in the movie. It leaves no doubt why Luke sent himself into isolation. Much better than Yoda's forced exile.
-The silence when Lorna Dern lightsped through the Imperial ship. There was some kid, probably around 10 years old, who whispered to himself but the entire theater could hear him. He went "Oh my God" with the most awestruck little kid voice. Too funny.
-Snoke turned out to be a great villain. Really great. Then they kill him(see 'what I hated'.)

What I hated:
-It was way too long. Braveheart was 3 hours, Gladiator was 2:50. Both long but brilliant. This was shorter but felt 10 times as long. So many unnecessary scenes that should have been cut. I could watch Empire every few weeks beginning to end no problem. I'm not sure I could sit through this whole thing even one more time.
-The audience doesn't need a hundred battles. Why so many battles???? By the time the last battle happened it was anticlimactic.
-While that casino scene was cool why were we there for 20 or so minutes. And all that time devoted to Benecio del Toro and his stutter. What that his character choice? Give this guy a stutter. Too much time devoted to a useless character.
-Finn's character is weak and his acting, or the directing of his acting, is weaker. I was hoping he was at least going too sacrifice himself and take out that cannon. But not to be.
-Snoke's death. So the force user who can telepathically connect two other force users- something we've never seen before- can't sense that lightsaber turning on him. Come on. The actual death/saber slicing was cool but just can't believe it could happen.
-Rey's lightsaber skills with no training. The entire premise of the Jedi is training. They used to have academies and masters devoted to training other Jedi. It was essential Luke trained with Yoda before he confronted Vader. Not only for his lightsaber skills but also for his mind. You would have thought Luke would have trained Rey a little, just a couple of good moves. But nothing. Yet here she is, no training but taking out Imperial guardsman and holding her own against Ren- the guy who just took out Snoke- I just don't buy it.

Questions:
So now Luke is a Force Ghost?
Ren is now the leader of the Sith? That would be lame.

Luke was never trained on lightsaber fighting either and he held his own (ish) against Vader even though he was a damn farmer.
Rey at least was a scavenger that had to learn ass-whoopin' staff style to get by.

Luke was saber training with Obiwan in the first movie.  

True, but training like a youngling lol
A lifetime on Jakku has to be better than that!

tempo_n_groove

So my three favorite scenes are the one where Vader goes ballistic in R1.  In Empire when he meets Han in cloud city and blocks his laser blast and when Luke goes nuts on the barge in Jedi.

Movies ranked

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VI
IV
VII
R1
II
VIII
III
I

BIGDaddyWil

For some reason, I didn't like the casting of Laura Dern and Benicio Del Toro.

JimmyV

tempo_n_groove said:

So my three favorite scenes are the one where Vader goes ballistic in R1.  In Empire when he meets Han in cloud city and blocks his laser blast and when Luke goes nuts on the barge in Jedi.

Movies ranked

V
VI
IV
VII
R1
II
VIII
III
I

That might be the highest I've ever seen anyone rank Attack of the Clones. That's why I love these lists. Everyone's tastes are so different.

rgambs

I think the prequels are underrated.  
The plot is solid, the action sequences are fun to watch, and though there are serious issues with the dialogue and some acting performances, there are some LOTR caliber quotes and solid acting moments.