The 2013-14 NBA season

RW81233

RiotZact wrote:

81 wrote:

People don't hate on rose, because he doesn't act like a douche bag all the time.

Well said

how does bron act like a douche bag all the time? like what does he specifically do that is clearly douchebaggery vs. the way the media has decided to frame him. he yells at guys who pick on the delonte mrs. james thing (wouldn't you be pissed?). couldn't donating 3 mill and trying for titles be framed differently? couldn't we be looking back at his 48 special, and 42 points against the celts only to be topped by Pierce, domination of the playoffs last year all the way until the finals be looked at as evidence of his late game strength? so he sucked in the finals, and against the celts after delonte did his thing, and he did something that no one in the media wanted him to do and now he's not "clutch", and an asshole? i'm sure he acts entitled, but at least he decided not to go to college rather than fake his way in...

81

rules said you didn't need to go to college back then.....

but come on...you think he does nothing douchery....honestly, it's not worth the arguement....you have your pink lebron glasses on....to the point, where i'm guessing you would say he has never quit in a game.

RW81233

nah man lebron sucked in the finals last year and when they lost to the celts (as sucky as a trip-dub can be). all i'm saying is that the way the media has shaped him overlooks the reality of things, whereas rose gets covered with rose colored glasses . i actually really like rose, but just find it funny that he gets treated a lot differently than lebron. if the media wanted to they could completely make a majority of people think rose is a choker.

81

sure, you could make Rose look bad....but you don't need the media to tell you that...Rose will tell you that himself. first thing he said after the miami series was it was his fault.

lebron needs to shut up and play instead of worrying about leaving cleveland or going back to cleveland. just talk about the last game after a game and the next game before a game and stop sending your posse to gilbert's office.

Indifference71

81 wrote:

sure, you could make Rose look bad....but you don't need the media to tell you that...Rose will tell you that himself. first thing he said after the miami series was it was his fault.

lebron needs to shut up and play instead of worrying about leaving cleveland or going back to cleveland. just talk about the last game after a game and the next game before a game and stop sending your posse to gilbert's office.

Rose is a class act. Lebron is not. End of story.

JK_Livin

Lebron has a nickname of "King James" = Douchebaggery. He also tried to confiscate the tape of the Xavier kid that dunked on him at a camp. He throws that powder in the air. He made me dislike D Wade. He bitches and moans about any foul called on him or not called against him, including fouls called on his team mates. Crab dribble!

I've never heard a negative thing about Rose.

81

JK_Livin wrote:

Lebron has a nickname of "King James" = Douchebaggery. He also tried to confiscate the tape of the Xavier kid that dunked on him at a camp. He throws that powder in the air. He made me dislike D Wade. He bitches and moans about any foul called on him or not called against him, including fouls called on his team mates. Crab dribble!

I've never heard a negative thing about Rose.

rose has a few negatives....to be fair...

Memphis had to give up all the wins from his single season there because somebody else took his sat
then there was a picture of him at a party showing off gang signs
and this last summer he was in a car where the driver was over the drinking limit.

all are bonehead moves.



but from an attitude standpoint, all he talks about his winning. he does't recruit players to come play with him, he says hey....we have a pretty good thing going here, if you want to come play with us, cool, if not, we are going to try and beat you. people like that shit.


and to be fair, you'll never convince our lebron leg humping friend that lafruad is a douche. that's just the way it is.

dcfaithful

81 wrote:

but from an attitude standpoint, all he talks about his winning. he does't recruit players to come play with him, he says hey....we have a pretty good thing going here, if you want to come play with us, cool, if not, we are going to try and beat you. people like that shit.

With this whole argument about LeBron and Rose, I'd like to chime in and say that personally I think this is the best thing said so far.

I am not a LeBron fan, but I don't hate the guy either. Honestly, I could care less about him because he doesn't play for the team I cheer for. I'm kind of the same way about Rose. However as a fan, I have a higher respect for Rose (the basketball player) because of what 81 has just said. It's the attitude that I think defines a player, and LeBron has shown his true attitude enough for people to make their case about him.

The question for me is will Rose, ( and Durant for that matter) have the same, admirable attitude if they spend 7 years binding together a franchise and fighting for a title and not get one?

Rose talks about how he hasn't had to recruit and would never do so. I believe him on that, and I like his attitude. But he hasn't had to recruit because the front office in Chicago has done so. Rose is fortunate to play for a team who is willing to make good transactions.

As much as people lay into LeBron about leaving, which I will definitely agree that his approach to it was unthoughtful, I think the management of the Cavaliers have some responsibility in the turn of events. Did they ever really make a strong effort to put more players in place to solidify their team with LeBron? They signed Shaq at the ass end of his career... anyone could've told you that wasn't a "title winning" acquisition. Who else were their best... West? Mo Williams? Varejao? Jamison?

Just my two cents on the matter.

polaris_x

the $64,000 question is whether rose would be like he is if he was playing in say charlotte ... where the team is losing and the arena's aren't packed every night and he isn't a big man in a big town ... the kid is playing for the bulls in chicago ... it's a lot easier to say the right things when you're in that situation ...

having said that ... if i had to bet and there was some official test ... money is on lebron being the biggest douche ..

81

polaris_x wrote:

the $64,000 question is whether rose would be like he is if he was playing in say charlotte ... where the team is losing and the arena's aren't packed every night and he isn't a big man in a big town ... the kid is playing for the bulls in chicago ... it's a lot easier to say the right things when you're in that situation ...

having said that ... if i had to bet and there was some official test ... money is on lebron being the biggest douche ..

the bobcats would trade him for a bag of balls.

Wobbie

Greg Oden is done

polaris_x

imalive wrote:

Greg Oden is done

feel bad for the kid ... made exponentially worse being drafted ahead of KD ...

Wobbie

polaris_x wrote:

imalive wrote:

Greg Oden is done

feel bad for the kid ... made exponentially worse being drafted ahead of KD ...

is he at least financially set?

polaris_x

imalive wrote:

is he at least financially set?

fuck ... assuming he didn't piss it all away ... he should be fine ... he got $1.5 million this year alone ... he doesn't have a contract beyond this year tho ...

81

He didn't retire did he? Somebody will pay him some more

The Juggler

regarding the douchiness of lebron james, well, we can go ahead and add that he drinks appletinis, prefers his steak well done and has the restaurant cut it for him


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... ng-habits/

polaris_x

The Juggler wrote:

regarding the douchiness of lebron james, well, we can go ahead and add that he drinks appletinis, prefers his steak well done and has the restaurant cut it for him


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... ng-habits/

cooking a steak beyond medium rare should be punishable by law i say ... 20 days in the slammer where they put you on a vegan diet ...

polaris_x

81 wrote:

He didn't retire did he? Somebody will pay him some more

a "routine" surgery turned into his 3rd microfracture surgey ...

81

polaris_x wrote:

81 wrote:

He didn't retire did he? Somebody will pay him some more

a "routine" surgery turned into his 3rd microfracture surgey ...

they knew there was a chance of microfracture surgery before he went in.

81

polaris_x wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

regarding the douchiness of lebron james, well, we can go ahead and add that he drinks appletinis, prefers his steak well done and has the restaurant cut it for him


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... ng-habits/

cooking a steak beyond medium rare should be punishable by law i say ... 20 days in the slammer where they put you on a vegan diet ...

or at least two crops to the back....i mean, according to some here, he is still a slave and all.

anyways, have the fun of a good steak is the blood and juices comeing out...mmmm...num num num